

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up
No Laying Up
The TrapDraw is No Laying Up’s podcast playground for all topics beyond the world of golf. Episode formats vary week to week and usually include Chop Sessions (where hosts TC & Randy explore their many eclectic interests), The Booth (where Neil & Cody interrogate each other), Interviews (with subject-matter experts from a wide swath of society), and Perfect Clubs (in-depth examinations of pop culture phenomenons). Through the TrapDraw members of No Laying Up are able to share glimpses into their daily lives with their most ardent, engaged audience.
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Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 30min
364: Chop Session
Dive into a lively discussion on power-ranking U.S. Transportation Secretaries and the recent Green Bay trip, where tailgating stole the show. There's a spirited debate over kids' walk-up songs and the commercialization of youth sports. The hosts also reflect on Sister Jean's legacy and highlight a new Japanese ordinance to limit screen time. Add in quirky conversations about Dippin' Dots and insights on college football coaching changes, and you've got a dynamic mix of topics to enjoy!

Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 42min
363: Seamsters Union: Brent Rooker & Playoff Baseball
The Seamsters welcome Brent Rooker back to the TrapDraw for a review of his season with the A’s and a chance to properly nerd out on the state of the playoffs with his takes on what we’ve seen thus far in the 2025 postseason. We close the pod with “Good Take - Bad Take” as Brent evaluates some of our hottest baseball opinions.
Disclaimer: We recorded on Thursday afternoon prior to both NLDS Game 4s.
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Oct 8, 2025 • 1h 56min
362: BallKnowers with Bob Sturm
Our sensei of schematics, Bob Sturm, returns to talk all things NFL with Tron and Randy. The first half of our chat covers various storylines from around the league before we look back at Bob’s career in Dallas and his arrival on the heels of the era of Cowboys football featured in the recent documentary.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 27min
361: Chop Session with Cody
Cody McBride, a frequent co-host known for his insights on turf, travel, and family life, joins the conversation for an engaging mix of topics. They dive into lawn care techniques, sharing Cody's mower collection and maintenance tips. The duo reflects on solo parenting challenges and the calming effects of yard work. They also discuss the latest in youth sports, NFL thoughts, and surprising food recalls, such as the corn dog incident. With a touch of humor, they navigate through travel plans and unique dining experiences, leaving listeners entertained and informed.

Sep 24, 2025 • 1h 29min
360: BallKnowers with Bob Sturm
TC and Randy bring on a true friend of the pod in Bob Sturm for a team by team breakdown of what we’ve seen across the NFL through the first three weeks of the season, and we get an update on the standings in our teams draft.
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Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 24min
359: 2025 Airports - Pete Buttigieg
Pete Buttigieg, former US Secretary of Transportation and mayor of South Bend, Indiana, shares insights on travel and infrastructure. He ranks his favorite airports, discusses air traffic control challenges post-COVID, and explores the airline industry's competitive landscape. Buttigieg touches on the evolution of travel loyalty programs and emphasizes the importance of passenger protections. He also dives into future innovations like eVTOLs and their implications for safety and public perceptions, blending humor with critical infrastructure conversations.

Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 35min
358: Seamsters Union - Heading for Home
The Seamsters hold our final meeting of the 2025 regular season to look at the close division and wild card races. Then, Randy plays the role of game show host and asks DJ and Soly to guess five players based on their less than ideal second half stats and we close with some thoughts on MVP, Cy Young, and Rookie of the Year award candidates.
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Sep 5, 2025 • 1h 18min
357: Chop Session with DJ
DJ subs in for Randy on this week’s chop session with a robust agenda including our mea culpas and monitoring list, tennis, baseball, recent travels and - in a shocking turn of events - the potential return of The Commish.
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Aug 26, 2025 • 1h 56min
356: BallKnowers - 2025 NFL Season Preview
The NFL preseason has wrapped and we’re a little over a week away from the regular season opener. Neil, TC, Randy and Poosh have convened the BallKnowers to preview the upcoming season and hold our annual teams draft as Poosh looks to defend his title from last season.
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Aug 23, 2025 • 1h 30min
355: Seamsters Union - Brew Crew On Top
We’re heading down the home stretch of the MLB regular season with DJ’s Brewers holding the best record in baseball. After a thorough discussion around the top three teams in the NL Central, we examine each of the other division races, provide a much anticipated update on our fantasy league, and offer some thoughts on recent news of potential MLB expansion and realignment.
Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf
Support our sponsors:
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Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here:
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If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join
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