

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up
No Laying Up
The TrapDraw is No Laying Up’s podcast playground for all topics beyond the world of golf. Episode formats vary week to week and usually include Chop Sessions (where hosts TC & Randy explore their many eclectic interests), The Booth (where Neil & Cody interrogate each other), Interviews (with subject-matter experts from a wide swath of society), and Perfect Clubs (in-depth examinations of pop culture phenomenons). Through the TrapDraw members of No Laying Up are able to share glimpses into their daily lives with their most ardent, engaged audience.
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Dec 4, 2025 • 2h 1min
373: Chop Session
The Big Guy returns to chop with TC and offer some mea culpas, run through a list of thrills and delights, our monitoring list and some non-golf sports updates.
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Nov 25, 2025 • 1h 30min
372: Chop Session with DJ
TC and DJ take care of some mea culpas and recent bird watching accusations directed towards Soly, check in on some baseball and football news and notes, debut our “things that are sick” nominations, and work through our monitoring list.
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If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join
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Nov 20, 2025 • 2h 11min
371: The BallKnowers
Poosh, Randy, and TC check in on the playoff races as we head into week 12 of the NFL season. We also offer a list of what we’re sure of, and a few things we need to figure out with eight weeks to go until the playoffs begin.
Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf
Support our sponsors:
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Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here:
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If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 13, 2025 • 1h 38min
370: Chop Session
Join Randy and TC as they dive into a mix of cooking mishaps and air travel woes amidst a government shutdown. Listen in on their thoughts about the unexpected coaching turnover in college football and the legacy of Paul Tagliabue. They also discuss the curious world of AI music and the ethics surrounding it. Plus, catch updates on environmental issues like the water crisis in Iran and the intriguing world of birdwatching. With light-hearted banter and a sprinkle of local civic discussions, it's a captivating listen!

Nov 6, 2025 • 1h 47min
369: Seamsters Union - Clayton Kershaw and AJ Ellis on the World Series
The Seamsters are ready to put a bow on the 2025 Season, but we’ve gone to the bullpen to call in our resident catcher AJ Ellis and the recently retired World Series Champ, Clayton Kershaw. After a thorough breakdown of one of the most memorable Fall Classics in the history of the sport, we look towards the offseason, the looming labor fight around a new CBA, and review our over/under predictions from back in March.
Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf
Support our sponsors:
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Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here:
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If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 4, 2025 • 1h 35min
368: The BallKnowers with Matt Ryan
Tron and Neil offer some quick updates and mea culpas before we welcome a true knower as Matt Ryan talks through the current state of the NFL, quarterbacks - and how certain QBs are enjoying a career revival after early struggles, his favorite playcallers and players to watch and his transition into broadcasting for CBS and a ton more.
Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf
Support our sponsors:
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Rhoback
Whoop
Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here:
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If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join
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Oct 30, 2025 • 1h 18min
367: Chop Session with DJ
With DJ in Jacksonville we squeezed in an in-person chop session with TC to clear out our monitoring list covering recent travels, world news, bird watching, DVD collections, and more.
Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf
Support our sponsors:
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Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here:
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If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join
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Oct 30, 2025 • 1h 36min
366: How an Apparel Business Gets Built
Alex Holderness and John Bourne, co-founders of Holderness & Bourne, share their journey from Yale classmates to golf apparel innovators. They discuss spotting a gap in modern golf fashion, the challenges of product development, and how they built credibility through wholesale partnerships. Their candid recounting of early failures, pivotal moments like landing their first pro shop order, and the importance of customer service offers inspiring insights. Plus, they emphasize the significance of clear roles and staying focused on quality in business.

Oct 23, 2025 • 1h 34min
365: The Booth Vol.23
Cody and Neil return for another Booth to offer Mea Culpas and request some from the audience as well. We also discuss Neil’s move to the burbs, hardware store loyalties, what we’re watching, making sense of content feedback on social media, Neil's appearance on a panel at Columbia, and more.
Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf
Support our sponsors:
ServPro
Rhoback
Stone Creek Coffee
Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here:
https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/
Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast
If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 30min
364: Chop Session
Dive into a lively discussion on power-ranking U.S. Transportation Secretaries and the recent Green Bay trip, where tailgating stole the show. There's a spirited debate over kids' walk-up songs and the commercialization of youth sports. The hosts also reflect on Sister Jean's legacy and highlight a new Japanese ordinance to limit screen time. Add in quirky conversations about Dippin' Dots and insights on college football coaching changes, and you've got a dynamic mix of topics to enjoy!


