
The Block Reward | Real Stories. Real Impact. All Powered by Real Money - Bitcoin
Welcome to The Block Reward Podcast, where real stories meet real impact, all powered by real money—Bitcoin. Each week, we dive into the transformative world of Bitcoin through in-depth interviews with thought leaders, innovators, and changemakers shaping the future of decentralized finance.
Your host, Scott Dedels, also shares solo episodes where he reflects on his journey as a conscious CEO, offering insights into leadership, personal growth, and the evolving role of Bitcoin in creating a more intentional and purpose-driven economy.
Whether you're a seasoned Bitcoiner or just starting to explore its potential, The Block Reward Podcast delivers thought-provoking conversations and actionable takeaways to inspire your own financial freedom and conscious living.
Join us as we uncover the stories and strategies that fuel the Bitcoin revolution—one block at a time.
New episodes released every Tuesday!
Latest episodes

Jun 3, 2025 • 51min
87: James Lavish ON: Tariffs, Treasuries, and the Bitcoin Wild Card
The Fed Wants to Be a Hedge Fund—Here’s What That Means for BitcoinJames Lavish—managing partner of the Bitcoin Opportunity Fund and author of The Informationist—returns for a sharp, high-stakes conversation about markets, monetary policy, and the future of Bitcoin. With a background in hedge funds and Wall Street, James brings deep insight into how liquidity, debt, and geopolitical shifts are shaping the investment landscape.In this episode, you’ll hear James break down the trillion-dollar “basis trade” threat looming over global finance—and why the Brookings Institution is floating the idea of the Federal Reserve taking it on directly. You’ll learn how institutions like BlackRock are quietly stacking Bitcoin, why MicroStrategy’s playbook is nearly impossible to replicate, and what SAB 121’s repeal means for Bitcoin’s integration into traditional banking. We also unpack volatility, risk signals, and why all eyes are on liquidity as the true driver of price action. If you care about macro shifts, asymmetric bets, and the collision of old and new finance, this one’s unmissable.You’ll Learn:How the trillion-dollar “basis trade” threatens market stabilityWhy the Fed might start behaving like a hedge fundHow volatility forces institutions to liquidate Bitcoin firstWhat liquidity cycles reveal about Bitcoin price movementWhy MicroStrategy’s model can’t easily be copiedHow policy shifts like SAB 121 impact Bitcoin custody and lendingWhy institutional Bitcoin buys don’t always move the priceWhat global treasury markets signal about U.S. economic fragilityHow margin rules and volatility drive systemic riskWhy long-term Bitcoin conviction hinges on liquidity, not hypeTimestamps: [00:00] Introduction [03:10] What the Fed watches when making rate decisions [05:35] How global liquidity ties into Bitcoin’s price [06:45] Why the US relies on foreign treasury buyers [08:05] The problem with holding US treasuries during inflation [10:30] How the “basis trade” works and why it’s dangerous [13:20] The scale and leverage behind today’s basis trade [15:45] What it means if the Fed takes hedge fund positions [18:05] How Bitcoin reacts to macro uncertainty [20:14] What a Bitcoin sell-off on weekends signals [22:52] The role of haircut changes during market stress [25:25] What makes liquidity broader than just money supply [27:38] Why Bitcoin may peak after liquidity peaks [29:38] How multiple macro factors shape Bitcoin price [31:12] How convertible bonds helped MicroStrategy scale [35:20] Why new Bitcoin companies can’t mimic MSTR returns [37:18] What 21.co and Jack Mallers are building [40:02] The impact of SAB 121 on banking and Bitcoin custody [42:10] How Chokepoint 2.0 disrupted Bitcoin funds [45:05] How banks will integrate Bitcoin into lendingWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.Resources Mentioned:Bitcoin Opportunity Fund | WebsiteBrookings Institution | WebsiteStrategy | WebsiteMetaplanet | Website21 | WebsiteLearn more about James through The Informationalist newsletter. You can also follow him on Instagram, X, and YouTube.Find more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedIn

May 27, 2025 • 41min
86: Leon Wankum ON: Real Estate vs Bitcoin: The Investment Showdown
Bitcoin is replacing real estate—and it’s happening faster than you think.In this episode, Leon Wankum, financial economist and real estate developer breaks down why Bitcoin is rapidly outcompeting real estate as a store of value, investment vehicle, and source of cashflow. With over 15 years in real estate and a background in financial economics, Leon brings unmatched insight into how the rules of wealth-building are being rewritten. From leveraging Bitcoin as pristine collateral to MicroStrategy’s game-changing financial products, this conversation challenges the long-held dominance of physical assets—and makes a compelling case that Bitcoin isn’t just an alternative investment, it’s becoming the benchmark. Whether you're a seasoned investor, real estate pro, or Bitcoin skeptic, this episode will shift how you think about capital, yield, and the future of money.You’ll Learn:How MicroStrategy’s financial products are engineered to outperform real estate cashflow without leverageWhy Bitcoin’s purchasing power growth outpaces even leveraged real estate over timeWhat makes Bitcoin a superior form of collateral compared to property assetsHow institutional capital is shifting from bonds and real estate toward Bitcoin-backed instrumentsWhy rising interest rates are exposing vulnerabilities in traditional real estate investingHow Bitcoin flips the time value of money and redefines financial riskWhat the decline of commercial real estate reveals about the larger economic paradigm shiftWhy measuring wealth in Bitcoin changes investment logic and portfolio strategyHow real estate developers can practically integrate Bitcoin into financing and reserve strategiesTimestamps: [00:00] Introduction [01:45] How Bitcoin flips the time value of money [03:10] Bitcoin vs real estate as yield-generating assets [05:30] Inflation benchmarks and real estate performance [06:55] Why Bitcoin’s growth outpaces even leveraged real estate [08:10] Bitcoin as superior collateral and digital real estate [09:35] MicroStrategy’s bond and preferred stock offerings explained [12:00] Real estate investor motivations and the shift to Bitcoin [14:20] Bitcoin’s threat to the $300 trillion real estate market [16:00] Declining commercial real estate value in a new economy [18:35] Central banking errors and rising interest rate impact [20:15] Real estate struggles while Bitcoin rises [22:00] Paradigm shift in storing and exchanging value [24:05] Clear math: Bitcoin vs real estate returns over time [26:20] Institutional capital shifting through MicroStrategy [28:00] Why Bitcoin is now the true investment benchmark [30:10] Will Bitcoin’s volatility decline or persist [32:20] Volatility as a resilience mechanism in BitcoinWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.Resources Mentioned:Bitcoin As Real Estate by Surfer Jim | ArticleLearn more about Leon’s work on his Website. You can also subscribe to his Substack and follow him on LinkedIn and X.Find more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedIn

May 20, 2025 • 56min
85: Roger and Seb ON: Inside the World of Bitcoin Authors
You won’t change the system by shouting at it—try writing a book instead.What happens when two Bitcoiners become authors—and decide to peel back the curtain on the writing, publishing, and marketing grind behind their books? In this refreshingly honest and unexpectedly hilarious episode, Roger Wang (Senior Marketing Director at Block Rewards and author of Would Mao Hold Bitcoin?) and Seb Bunney (author of The Hidden Cost of Money) go deep on what it really takes to write a Bitcoin book that resonates.From self-doubt to publishing politics, research rabbit holes to accidental financial wins from Bitcoin appreciation, this is a no-BS conversation about the pain, strategy, and joy of building something that lasts. Whether you’re a curious reader, aspiring writer, or freedom-maxi who wants to orange-pill through storytelling—this episode will shift how you think about content, craft, and conviction.You’ll Learn:How self-publishing unlocks creative control and competitive reach in the Bitcoin spaceWhy using a non-Bitcoiner editor can strengthen your arguments and expose blind spotsHow pricing in Bitcoin turns small book sales into high-leverage assets over timeWhat note-taking over 10 years reveals about building a citation powerhouseHow separating writing and editing accelerates creative output and clarityWhy emotionally charged writing often leads to sharper, more resonant workWhat poor cover design signals about credibility—and how to avoid itHow evergreen content challenges traditional marketing tacticsWhy structure-first writing reduces wasted effort and kills fewer “darlings”What print-on-demand technology reveals about the democratization of publishingTimestamps:[00:00] Introduction[00:27] Selling books in bitcoin during a bull run[03:42] Roger’s process blending Bitcoin and China[05:18] The challenge of citations and deep research[06:41] Roger’s structured writing habits[08:34] Seb’s three-part writing framework[10:32] Learning from Stephen King's writing process[12:12] First drafts vs editing efficiency[13:01] Using notes to support citations[14:47] Tone and voice in Bitcoin writing[16:26] Writing emotionally vs analytically[22:32] Early activism and censorship in diaspora communities[23:02] Power of personal storytelling in nonfiction[26:00] Real cost of self-publishing a book[27:33] Importance of good cover design and layout[30:11] Missing the chance to narrate the audiobook[31:06] Roger’s experience with Bitcoin Magazine publishing[33:21] Tradeoffs between author control and publisher support[35:11] Why most publishers don’t help with marketing[36:12] How a non-Bitcoiner editor strengthened Seb’s book[37:22] How Amazon and print-on-demand changed publishing[38:44] Challenges of marketing evergreen content[39:51] Social media tradeoffs for indie authors[41:00] Three main hooks Roger uses to market his book[42:07] Hosting meetups to drive in-person sales[44:47] Selling in Bitcoin as a long-term advantage[47:11] Seb’s advice to podcast hosts[48:26] Roger’s wish to talk about more than Bitcoin and ChinaResources Mentioned:Would Mao Hold Bitcoin? by Roger Huang | BookThe Hidden Cost of Money by Seb Bunney | BookB is for Bitcoin by Seb Bunney and Daz Bea | BookOn Writing by Stephen King | BookReedsy | WebsiteBitcoin Magazine Publisher | WebsiteFind more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedInWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.

May 13, 2025 • 51min
84: Peruvian Bull ON: Bitcoin Solves the Triffin Dilemma, Dollar Milkshake, and Cantillon Effects
Peruvian Bull is a macro analyst, author of Dollar End Game, and creator focused on the long-term consequences of fiat monetary policy and Bitcoin's role in the global economy.In this episode, you're going to learn how the U.S. dollar became the dominant global reserve currency and why that system is now under strain, what the Triffin dilemma is and how it forces the U.S. to make impossible economic trade-offs, why central banks are trapped in a cycle of endless debt and money printing, what caused the post-2020 inflation spike and why it's different from 2008, and how Bitcoin fits into this system as a neutral, non-sovereign monetary asset with potential game-theoretic consequences at a global level.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction[00:38] Why exponential debt systems always break[03:01] The origins of the global dollar system[04:18] The Triffin dilemma explained[05:47] France calls the U.S. bluff on gold[07:30] Why reserve currencies must become net importers[09:12] Why capital flows toward higher-yield currencies[10:36] The policy trilemma explained[12:08] Global synchronized monetary policy[14:27] Brent Johnson’s dollar milkshake theory[15:36] How foreign selling triggers U.S. stock crashes[17:32] Why the Fed always steps in to rescue markets[18:52] Why inflation isn’t a one-time problem[20:22] How the Fed evolved into a power center[22:15] Why QE flows into financial assets, not groceries[25:00] When reserves become real, spendable money[26:48] How deficits + QE = money printing[28:13] How 2% inflation quietly robs your savings[29:46] The Fed balance sheet now drives markets[31:22] Cantillon effects and unfair gains[32:23] Recession avoidance creates bigger problems[34:07] Zombie companies and bad capital allocation[35:39] The exponential nature of debt and money[36:50] Bitcoin as a solution to fiat collapse[38:28] Game theory and Bitcoin nation state adoption[40:36] The race to accumulate Bitcoin[42:05] Bitcoin vs global capital markets[43:27] Why Satoshis could become expensive[44:56] Why Bitcoin’s simplicity is a feature[46:35] Only universal upgrades succeed in Bitcoin[47:31] Exponential debt means exponential inflationResources Mentioned:The Dollar Endgame by Peruvian Bull | BookTriffin Dilemma Concept by Robert Triffin | FrameworkDollar Milkshake Theory by Brent Johnson | WebsiteCreature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin | BookShadowStats – Alternative Inflation Data | StatisticsThe Peter Schiff Show Podcast | Spotify or AppleGet Peruvian Bull’s latest analysis, charts, and longform commentary on his Substack.Find more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedInWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.

May 6, 2025 • 53min
83: Seb Bunney ON: How Bitcoin Can Heal the Damage Fiat Created
Scott and Seb Bunny are long-time friends and thinkers in the Bitcoin space who focus on the philosophical, societal, and spiritual implications of sound money.In this episode, you're going to learn how fiat money distorts our perception of time and value, why Bitcoin could be the antidote to rising anxiety and survival-driven living, how inflation and state-controlled money affect everything from relationships to food quality, what the future might look like with AI, simulation theory, and Bitcoin intersecting, and why smaller, tighter communities might be the key to a more meaningful life.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction[01:40] The spiritual side of Bitcoin[02:18] How Bitcoin relates to time[03:01] Money as a measurement of time[04:03] Energy, time, and the Bitcoin standard[05:56] How government intervention distorts value[06:39] The tyranny of the clock explained[08:02] TikTok and shortened attention spans[09:04] State-controlled money as a modern parasite[09:56] How Bitcoin breaks the survival mindset[10:41] Consciousness model: past, present, future[12:57] Money working better in the past[13:50] TikTok, dopamine, and attention collapse[15:46] Financial stress and lack of meaning[16:32] Masculine and feminine energy imbalance[17:56] Fiat food and declining food quality[18:34] Why beauty in architecture is disappearing[20:00] Government subsidies and the grain boom[21:45] Why our diets no longer match evolution[22:31] Fiscal responsibility under a Bitcoin standard[23:10] Why endless money printing kills innovation[24:29] Nestlé and the World Economic Forum[25:01] How legal tender laws protect bad money[25:39] Capital gains tax and Bitcoin adoption[26:20] Sea’s law and merchants choosing Bitcoin[27:04] Nation states conflicted over Bitcoin[28:04] Trump, Bitcoin, and US debt[28:44] The dollar milkshake theory explained[29:57] Ignoring hard money has real consequences[30:22] Why universal basic income doesn’t work[31:45] Technological progress and job displacement[32:27] Simulation theory and discovered AI[34:06] A renaissance through alignment with Bitcoin[35:33] How realistic video games support simulation theory[36:12] Predictive programming in media[37:51] Is the world happening to us or for us?[40:00] Could Bitcoin be created by AI[42:01] The myth of needing to spend Bitcoin[43:30] Why mass Bitcoin adoption will take time[47:39] Bitcoin as a spiritual tool[51:02] The second renaissance and cultural revivalResources Mentioned:Bitcoin is Time | Website"The Tyranny of the Clock" by George Woodcock | ReadSeeds of Deception by Jeffrey Smith | BookFiat Food by Matthew Lysiak and Saifedean Ammous | Book or AudiobookTribe by Sebastian Junger | Book or AudiobookMovies: Ready Player One and The AnimatrixGive Seb a follow on X, Instagram and LinkedInFind more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedInWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.

Apr 29, 2025 • 48min
82: How Scott Left Traditional Finance to Build A Future with Bitcoin
In this episode, Scott sits in the guest seat. You’re going to learn how he went from mocking Bitcoin to building a company around it, what employers need to know if they want to offer Bitcoin to their staff, why money is designed to lose value over time—and how that affects every employee’s future, what a Bitcoin savings plan looks like today and how it helps staff build real long-term wealth, and why Bitcoin could be the most important tool for both retaining talent and fighting inflation in the modern workplace.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction [01:12] Why employers should offer Bitcoin to staff [03:48] COVID lockdowns and realizing the inflation problem[05:17] Discovering Austrian economics and Bitcoin as a solution[06:47] Why traditional financial products lose value over time[08:05] The vision for Bitcoin in employer-employee relationships[10:04] What Block Rewards is building right now[11:29] Addressing safety, legality, and accessibility concerns[12:42] Custodial wallets and cold storage options[14:35] How inflation is built into the fiat system[16:28] Measuring assets in Bitcoin instead of dollars[17:40] Why saving in Bitcoin beats stock market investing[18:49] Bitcoin’s long-term potential for retirement planning[20:38] Stretching compensation budgets with Bitcoin[22:33] How the Bitcoin Savings Plan works[24:24] Payroll integration and matching contributions[26:05] Why user experience matters for Bitcoin adoption[27:53] The mission and culture of Block Rewards[29:04] Why HR leaders need to start Bitcoin conversations[30:54] Inflation is guaranteed—Bitcoin is the alternative[32:47] The cost of waiting to understand Bitcoin[33:18] Global expansion and product roadmap[35:08] Bitcoin becoming as normal as email[36:20] Future vision for universal Bitcoin compensation[39:30] Bitcoin as energy and universal truth [41:03] Why Bitcoin conferences change perspectivesResources Mentioned:The Price of Tomorrow by Jeff Booth | Book or AudiobookLantern Bitcoin by Scott Dedels | WebsiteThe Dao of Bitcoin by Scott Dedels | Book or AudiobookBitcoin for Financial Advisors by Scott Dedels | BookFind more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedInWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.

Apr 22, 2025 • 46min
81: Paul Rogers ON: The Spiritual Mechanics of Bitcoin
Paul Rogers is a financial planner turned author who wrote Money, Love, and Bitcoin, a book exploring the spiritual and societal implications of sound money.In this episode, you’re going to learn how inflation silently robs regular people of their ability to save, why Paul believes most people don’t actually want to invest—they just want to be secure, how Bitcoin could shift humanity’s focus from extraction to contribution, what universal laws like love and energetic balance have to do with money, and how a sound money system might change not only economies but the way we live and relate to each other.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction[00:48] Fix the money fix the world[02:11] Building systems after money is fixed[04:01] Bitcoin and synchronizing consciousness[06:01] Why saving is hard in an inflationary system[07:10] The mindset of the average investor[08:15] Freedom from versus freedom to[09:06] Bitcoin as a foundation for deeper life questions[10:00] The premise of money, love, and Bitcoin[11:30] Understanding money as a technology[12:14] The problem of extraction vs contribution[13:22] Jeff Booth and falling prices[14:04] More people doing meaningful work[14:45] How commercialism shapes our worldview[15:33] Not everything in life is transactional[16:10] High time preference and broken systems[17:00] The importance of love in systems[18:50] FX trading as a symptom of fiat distortion[19:36] Universal law and quantum principles[20:20] The influence of the Tao of Physics[21:12] Everything is energy and vibration[22:01] The radio frequency analogy[23:18] Media distraction and energetic disconnection[24:00] From analog to digital age[25:00] Access to ideas throughout history[25:55] Tuning into higher frequencies[26:22] Can love be scientifically proven[27:05] Replacing extractive systems with aligned ones[28:01] Broken systems and political distraction[29:10] Fiat money versus thermodynamics[30:03] The impossibility of reconciling fiat logic[31:02] Jargon in traditional finance[31:50] Rethinking money as government-controlled[32:40] Money as stored labor and energy[33:15] Creating money without creating value[34:03] Paul’s optimism about humanity’s future[34:52] Moms working multiple jobs and broken incentives[35:40] People shouldn't need PhDs to survive[36:18] Building systems that serve instead of exploit[37:01] Avoiding centralized replacements[37:55] The digital age requires new visions[38:40] Drowning in data without wisdom[39:28] Ancient myths and cultural guardrails[40:15] Scientific thinking vs traditional wisdom[41:00] The Bitcoiners as a new social class[41:52] Final settlement vs endless credit[42:30] Importance of integrity and love[43:12] Interstellar as a metaphor for quantum loveResources Mentioned:Money, Love, and Bitcoin by Paul Rogers | BookThe Dao of Bitcoin by Scott Dedels | Book or AudiobookThe Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous | Book or AudiobookThe Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra | BookThe Systems View of Life by Fritjof Capra and Pier Luigi Luisi | BookThe Bushido of Bitcoin by Aleksandar Svetski | BookThe Block Reward episode on Bitcoin is Synchronizing Human Consciousness with Tomer Strolight | Spotify or AppleIf you want to connect with Paul, find him on X, LinkedIn, Instagram, and YouTube.Find more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedInWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.

Apr 15, 2025 • 53min
80: Efrat Fenigson ON: The Truth About The Central Bank Digital Currency
Efrat Fenigson is a journalist and podcaster with a background in tech and marketing. In this episode, you're going to learn why Efrat left a successful corporate career to focus on journalism and podcasting, her concerns about government control and how it led her to Bitcoin, what Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) are and how they could impact privacy and freedom, how various countries like China, Thailand, and the EU are experimenting with CBDCs, and why Efrat believes Bitcoin offers a better solution for financial sovereignty.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction [07:00] Discovering Bitcoin and its potential[08:00] COVID-19 experience and loss of trust in government[09:30] Introduction to Bitcoin through Crypto Jungle[10:30] Efrat’s Bitcoin journey and learning process[12:00] Leaving old social circles and building new ones[14:00] The shift from valuing money and titles to valuing freedom and truth[17:30] Wholesale and retail CBDCs[18:30] Possible restrictions on CBDCs, including geofencing and expiry dates[19:30] Global alignment of CBDC rollout with Agenda 2030[21:00] The state of CBDC development in Israel[22:00] ECB’s plan to launch the digital euro in 2025[24:00] How China’s CBDC rollout evolved[26:00] Similar strategies being considered in Europe[28:00] European Bank’s plans to redirect private savings[30:00] Estimated cost of Euthe ropean CBDC project[32:00] How global institutions operate with long-term plans[34:00] The Overton window and how it applies to CBDCs[36:00] China’s approach to control and compliance[38:00] Privacy concerns related to CBDCs[40:00] Concerns about geofencing and limiting transactions[42:00] Thailand’s extreme CBDC experiments[44:00] Stablecoin pilots and KYC Bitcoin use in Thailand[46:00] The Overton window strategy and gradual rollout[48:00] How Bitcoin provides a solution to CBDCs[50:00] Bitcoin as a hedge against government controlResources Mentioned:The Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous | Book or AudiobookCrypto Jungle | WebsiteBitcoin Live Conferences | WebsiteIf you want to connect with Efrat, follow her on Instagram, X, Youtube, LinkedIn and Facebook.Make sure you check out Efrat’s Podcast, You're the Voice | Spotify or AppleFind more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedInWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.

Apr 8, 2025 • 57min
79: Lawrence Lepard ON: Bitcoin vs. The Endless Money Printing Machine
Lawrence Lepard is a bestselling author and a prominent voice in the Bitcoin space.In this episode, you're going to learn why Lawrence believes the current monetary system is broken, how inflation and debt are silently eroding the wealth of everyday people, why he thinks Bitcoin offers a better solution, how central banks’ policies are fueling inequality, and what Lawrence sees as the most likely scenarios for the future of money.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction [00:20] Sound money, hard assets, and monetary debasement [05:15] History of money and gold[08:00] Inflation from World War I[10:15] Wealth inequality in America[14:10] Decline of sound money since 1971[16:40] The Cantillon effect[17:55] 2008 financial crisis and QE policies[19:30] Debt growth vs. GDP growth[21:15] 2008 vs. COVID money printing[22:00] Consequences of the current system[23:15] Government spending and deficits[25:20] Sound money as a moral issue[26:15] Inflation as silent theft[30:00] Explanation of the fourth turning[32:30] Role of decentralization and technology[34:05] Prediction of a Bitcoin standard[36:00] Criticism of Keynesian economics[39:00] Importance of decentralized money[41:10] Monetary gunpowder concept[42:00] Why gold became the dominant money[43:00] High interest rates in the 1980s[45:00] Inevitability of continued printing[46:15] Debt and bond markets[48:00] Possible future scenarios [52:00] Public awareness and educationWant to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.If you want to connect with Lawrence, follow him on X, Instagram and LinkedIn.Resources Mentioned:The Big Print by Lawrence Lepard | Book or Audiobook The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe | Book or AudiobookThe Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous | Book or AudiobookBitcoin Articles by Alex Gladstein | ArticlesThe Bible and Bitcoin by Alin Armstrong | Book or AudiobookEquity Management Associates | WebsiteFind more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedIn

Apr 1, 2025 • 47min
78: Jimmy Song ON: Bitcoin Will Outlast EVERY Altcoin (Here’s Why)
Jimmy Song is a longtime Bitcoin developer, author, and educator.In this episode, you're going to learn about how the Bitcoin narrative has evolved since 2011, the key differences between Bitcoin and altcoins, why Jimmy believes Bitcoin will eventually replace the US dollar as a global reserve currency, how fiat money erodes families and communities, and Jimmy's perspective on AI and quantum computing's impact on Bitcoin.Jimmy Song is a Bitcoin developer, educator, author, and entrepreneur who has been deeply involved in the Bitcoin space since 2011. He began his journey after discovering Bitcoin on Slashdot and soon became a contributor to open-source Bitcoin projects starting in 2013. Jimmy has authored several influential books on Bitcoin, and is a respected voice in the industry. He has taught numerous Bitcoin programming workshops, spoken at conferences worldwide, and runs a newsletter called Bitcoin Tech Talk. Known for his focus on the moral and economic implications of Bitcoin, Jimmy is dedicated to educating people about Bitcoin’s value as sound money and its potential to create a more just and decentralized financial system.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction [02:10] Early Bitcoin development and contributions [05:00] Bitcoin’s association with dark net money [06:45] The Silk Road era and influence on Bitcoin [08:45] Bitcoin’s price rise after Ross Ulbricht’s arrest [10:40] Jimmy’s motivation for writing books [12:00] Teaching developers the basics of Bitcoin [13:50] Purpose of Jimmy’s various books [16:00] The moral component of Bitcoin [18:10] Bitcoin vs altcoins [19:20] Why altcoins are fundamentally different [22:50] Bitcoin’s value as a savings vehicle [26:30] Impact of monetary policy on Bitcoin [29:00] Impact of Ukraine war on dollar dominance [30:40] Bitcoin as a neutral currency option [32:20] Companies using Bitcoin as a treasury asset [34:10] Companies adopting Bitcoin standards [35:40] Why quantum computing is overhyped [37:00] AI’s role in productivity [39:40] Open-source AI models and hype [41:20] Comparing Bitcoin’s hype to other technologies [43:00] Bitcoin’s superiority over other technologies [44:50] Fiat money’s impact on families [46:00] Social programs undermining families [47:40] Decline of marriage and family values [48:50] Money replacing human relationships [49:50] Bitcoiners finding meaning through traditional values Want to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.If you want to connect with Jimmy, follow him on X, Instagram and LinkedIn.Resources Mentioned:Programming Bitcoin by Jimmy Song | BookFiat Ruins Everything by Jimmy Song | BookThe Little Bitcoin Book by Jimmy Song | Book or AudiobookThank God for Bitcoin by Jimmy Song et al. | Book or AudiobookBitcoin and the American Dream by Jimmy Song et al. | Book or AudiobookThe Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous | Book or AudiobookBitcoin Tech Talk by Jimmy Song | SubstackFind more from Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedIn