

The Anti-Dystopians
Alina Utrata
Is social media really destroying democracy? Should Facebook be considered a public utility? How does cryptocurrency affect state sovereignty? And what exactly is surveillance capitalism? For all your political questions about tech, this is The Anti-Dystopians.The Anti-Dystopians is hosted and produced by Alina Utrata. All episodes are freely available, wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on Twitter @AntiDystopians.To support the show, visit: bit.ly/3AApPN4To subscribe to the email newsletter, visit: bit.ly/3kuGM5X Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jul 15, 2021 • 34min
Lost in Space: Audio Reading
In this special episode, an audio recording of Alina Utrata's recent article in the Boston Review "Lost in Space" about the tech billionaires attempting to colonize space.https://bostonreview.net/science-nature/alina-utrata-lost-spaceNowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 16, 2021 • 51min
Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and the Colonization of Outer Space
To kick off the new season of the podcast, Alina Utrata and Shikha Srinivas discuss space colonization and the tech billionaires in outer space. Why are Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk obsessed with getting to the moon and Mars? How are climate change and the quest to become an interplanetary species related? Who will unaccountable private corporations in space ultimately harm? Should we be afraid of cascading satellites and colliding space junk? And how can indigenous principles and knowledge-holders lead us in understanding our obligations to earth and space, and caring for our shared celestial commons? Since we talked a lot about indigenous communities on this episode, we want to highlight the work and knowledge of indigenous scholars, activists and communities:Sense of Place Series: Indigenous Perspectives on Earth and SkyAll My Relations: a podcast by three native women, as well as the specific episode about the fight to protect Mauna KeaThe Polynesian Voyaging Society, Hokule’a and more on Polynesian navigation practices.Native Appropriations, a blog by Dr. Adrienne KeeneMore Indigenous Scholars and Scholarly WorkDr Mark RifkinElizabeth ReeseProfessor Linda SmithDr. Sarah DeerNative science : natural laws of interdependenceMore about indigenous communities, colonialism and space:The impact of satellite constellations on space as an ancestral global commonsAnger after Indonesia offers Elon Musk Papuan island for SpaceX launchpadAstronomers May Not Like It but Astronomy and Colonialism Have a Shared HistoryThe legacy of colonialism on public lands created the Mauna Kea conflictOther articles:Mars is a hellhole.New York Times article about the social life of forestsThe myth of the tragedy of the commonsWhat if Space Junk and Climate Change Become the Same Problem?A rough sketch on some advanced carbon capture technologyAstronomers are very frustrated with Elon Musk’s satellitesElon Musk and Jeff Bezos’s space ideology:Billionaire battles are shaping our future in spaceElon Musk, once again the world's richest person, is selling all his possessions so people know he's serious about colonizing MarsElon Musk’s Satellite Internet Project Is Too Risky, Rivals SayElon Musk’s War on Regulators:The Tesla and SpaceX chief courts conflict with an alphabet soup of government agencies—and generally gets away with itElon Musk’s SpaceX violated its launch license in explosive Starship test, triggering an FAA probeJeff Bezos’ Rocket Company Challenges NASA Over SpaceX Moon Lander DealJeff Bezos Lifts Veil on His Rocket Company, Blue OriginNowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 28, 2021 • 53min
Can your computer see you?: A history of the screen, from radar to AR.
This week, the Anti-Dystopians hosts Louisa Shen, a PhD candidate at Cambridge University who has written about the history of the screen. Louisa explains how the screen began as military technology in WWII, how the Cold War overlapped with the mass production of screens (and spying), and how interactive screens now make it seem as if we can see our computers—or maybe that our computers can see us. Will the future of screens be the VR world of Facebook’s Oculus Rift or the AR overlaid life of Google glasses? Or will Amazon’s Alexa turned hologram become the next IoT “screen”? Nowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 18, 2021 • 58min
State, corporation, people: the global dimensions of tech regulation
Kyra Jasper, Josh Simons and Alina Utrata discuss the global dimensions of tech regulation. In this episode, they examine three case studies: Google and Facebook’s reaction to Australia’s new media law, and whether these tech corporations really “faced down a nation-state”. Facebook’s role in Myanmar, where the platform is the de facto internet, and whether the new military junta can shut down Facebook, if Facebook can ban the new rulers, and why Facebook only took action after a coup, and not during the ongoing genocide against the Rohingya. Finally, Twitter and Facebook in India, where the platforms have struggled with how to respond to India’s censorship laws. What can these case studies tell us about the nexus between states, corporations and people across the world?Sign up for the Anti-Dystopians newsletterMentioned in this podcastAustralia shows the way. It’s the job of governments not big tech to run democracieshttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/21/australia-shows-the-way-its-the-job-of-governments-not-big-tech-to-run-democraciesGoogle threatens to shut down search in Australiahttps://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/tech/google-threatens-australia-search-news-intl-hnk/index.htmlMyanmar Blocks Facebook Access After Online Protests of Military Couphttps://www.wsj.com/articles/myanmar-blocks-facebook-access-after-coup-11612436184?reflink=desktopwebshare_twitterMyanmar’s Military Deploys Digital Arsenal of Repression in Crackdownhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/world/asia/myanmar-coup-military-surveillance.html'It's digital colonialism': how Facebook's free internet service has failed its usershttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/27/facebook-free-basics-developing-marketsWhat a Facebook experiment did to news in Cambodiahttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41801071Twitter Unblocked Accounts That Criticized India’s Government. Now, Its Employees Are Being Threatened With Jail Time Unless It Blocks Them Again.https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/pranavdixit/india-threatens-twitter-jailIn India, Facebook Fears Crackdown on Hate Groups Could Backfire on Its Staffhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/in-india-facebook-fears-crackdown-on-hate-groups-could-backfire-on-its-staff-11607871600India imposes new rules on Facebook, Twitter and YouTubehttps://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/25/tech/india-twitter-facebook-social-media-guidelines/index.htmlNowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 7, 2021 • 58min
Nationalize Gmail!: Climate Change, Critical Infrastructure, and the USPS
Alina Utrata talks with Josh Lappen, a fellow Californian and environmental historian researching at Oxford University, who studies some of the most important technology there is: critical infrastructure. They discuss why hundreds of Elon Musks can’t (and won’t) solve climate change, the government funding and politics behind many technology entrepreneurs’ businesses, why low-tech solutions and indigenous practices are critical sources of knowledge, and the surprising number of technological innovations enabled by the US Postal Service (including Amazon’s e-commerce business and commercial flight). Plus, is PG&E really the worst company, what’s going on with the Texas blackouts, and should the government give you an email (and a bank account)?Addendum from Josh: "When recognizing the climate benefits of indigenous land management, we need to stress that a purely technical approach, which seeks to identify knowledge and incorporate it into existing management regimes, is simultaneously inadequate, amoral, and probably counterproductive. As we stressed during the interview, climate change is a political question which presents problems of distribution that run deeper than its problems of budgeting. In places like California, indigenous land management regimes ended due to enslavement, removal, and genocide of the state's native peoples, and modern land management practices have long depended on ignoring that fact, and the experiences of people who live on the land in general. Durably solving climate change is not just about assembling new tools; it requires rebuilding social and political systems to avoid new iterations of extractivism. In the case of cultural land management practices, that means restoring indigenous communities' role in shaping and caring for the land."Mentioned in this podcast:By Josh: How Climate-Driven Disasters Threaten Climate ProgressBill Tripp, the director of natural resources and environmental policy for the Karuk Tribe Department of Natural Resources, in the Guardian: “Our land was taken. But we still hold the knowledge of how to stop mega-fires.” As well as Jared Dahl Alder, “Cultural Fire on the Mountain: An Introduction to Native Cultural Burning" and Indigenous Conservation Practices Are Not a Monolith: Western cultural biases and a lack of engagement with Indigenous experts undermine studies of land stewardship.How California’s firefighters are made up of incarcerated people who are paid $1 a day,An explainer on PG&E and California’s (basically, annual) rolling blackouts and the recent Texas energy grid failures.If you’re wondering why California doesn’t have a train line between its two most populous cities, here’s a good explainer on the High Speed Rail (spoiler alert: its local politics), more long view coverage from Ralph Vartabedian at the LA Times. Plus, why Elon Musk’s Hyperloop literally won’t solve anything.“It’s the government, stupid.” Elon Musk is a state-made man. In case you didn’t catch the number, Elon Musk ventures’ Telsa, Solar City and SpaceX have received a total of $4.9 billion dollars from the government in tax breaks, grants and subsidies, and Tesla literally was not profitable until this year.For more on so-called libertarian tech entrepreneurs who make their fortunes contracting with Big Government, check out our previous Anti-Dystopians podcast about Peter Thiel with Andrew Granato (a mutual friend of me and Josh).More on the climate impacts of AI language modeling in the memo that Google fired Dr Timnit Gebru over, plus the environmental toll of a Netflix binge.For more on how Google buses and tech corporations are creating two-tier public/private infrastructure in the Bay, check out Inside a Secretive $250 Million Private Transit System Just for Techies.And, how Congress is Sabotaging Your Post Office. Plus a really interesting argument about the benefit of state-issues crypto-currencies aka why doesn’t the Fed just give everyone a bank account?Books:Marianna Mazzucato’s The Entrepreneurial StateWinifred Gallagher’s How the Post Office Created AmericaTimothy Mitchell's Rule of ExpertsHenri Lefebvre's The Production of SpaceSusan Leigh Star's Ecologies of KnowledgeRichard White's The Organic MachineNowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 26, 2021 • 59min
Is Facebook (and Google) a Public Utility?
For this week’s episode, Alina Utrata talks to Josh Simons, a PhD candidate in Government at Harvard University and a Labour candidate for local office in the UK. They discuss Josh’s research — what is machine learning and why is it (always) political? As critical information infrastructure, should Google and Facebook be regulated as democratic utilities? And do we need a whole new understanding of corporations' role in society if we’re going to tackle the tech industry? Tweet at AlinaTweet at JoshSign up for The Anti-Dystopians newsletterA transcript of this episode is available here.Mentioned in this podcastJosh Simons (co-authored by Dipayan Ghosh) on Brookings: Utilities for democracy: Why and how the algorithmic infrastructure of Facebook and Google must be regulatedVirginia Eubanks’s seminal work on Automating Inequality: How High-Tech Tools Profile, Police and Punish the Poor. Plus a review on the LSE’s blogCory Doctorow, How to Destroy Surveillance CapitalismMore on the UK’s Competition and Markets Authority and Digital Markets Unit Nowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 10, 2021 • 1h 2min
The Digital Periphery: Technology, Migration and Racial Capitalism
On this week’s episode, Alina Utrata talks to Dr. Matt Mahmoudi, who just completed his PhD in Development Studies at Cambridge University as a Jo Cox scholar of Refugee and Migration Studies. They talked about Matt’s research about how technology is affecting migrant and refugee communities in New York City and Berlin, how seemingly innocuous technology, like free WiFi kiosks, can become de facto digital borders, what racial capitalism can tell us about Shoshana Zuboff’s “surveillance capitalism”, and if a decolonial neo-Luddite approach to tech is possible. Plus, why New York City should ban police use of facial recognition scan. A rough transcript of this episode is available here.Articles and scholars mentioned in this podcastA post by Matt on his research on The Sociological Review, Race in the Digital Periphery: The New (Old) Politics of Refugee RepresentationBooks:On Racial Capitalism, Black Internationalism, and Cultures of Resistance by Cedric J. RobinsonExtrastatecraft: The Power of Infrastructure Space by Keller EasterlingRace Rebels: Culture, Politics, and the Black Working Class by Robin KelleyNotes Towards a Neo-Luddite Manifesto by Chellis GlendinningThe Invention of the Passport by John TorpeyUtopia for Realists by Rutger BregmanTwo Cheers for Anarchism by James ScottArticlesLeaked Location Data Shows Another Muslim Prayer App Tracking UsersWe Have Been Harmonized: Life in China’s Surveillance State (review by John Naughton)The Subprime Attention Crisis by Tim Hwang (review by Alina Utrata)PodcastPrevious Anti-Dystopians podcast on gender, colonization and the limits of surveillance capitalismMore information about Amnesty’s campaign to #BanTheScanNowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 2, 2021 • 53min
Social Media and Social Movements: The Rise of the European Far-Right
For this week’s episode, Alina Utrata talked to Julia Rone, a post-doc at the Minderoo Centre for Technology and Democracy at Cambridge University. They discussed the rise of the European far-right online—what's the relationship between online disinformation and political mobilization? Why is the far-right so much better at mobilizing online than the far-left? Can platforms or content moderation policies really stop them? And is any of this about “social media” or is it just about social movements? Tweet at Alina.Tweet at Julia.Sign up for the Anti-Dystopians newsletter.Articles mentioned in this podcastJulia Rone’s publications:On the Minderoo Centre’s blog Power-Switch:Democratizing digital sovereignty: an impossible task?Public networks instead of social networks?On the London School of Economics blog:Collateral Damage: How algorithms to counter “fake news” threaten citizen media in BulgariaWhy talking about ‘disinformation’ misses the point when considering radical right ‘alternative’ mediaAcademic Articles:Far right alternative news media as ‘indignation mobilization mechanisms’: how the far right opposed the Global Compact for MigrationThe people formerly known as the oligarchy: the cooptation of citizen journalismMore from our colleagues at the Minderoo Centre:Josh Simons on why Google and Facebook algorithms are political (and should be regulated as public utilities): Utilities for Democracy: Why the Algorithmic Infrastructure of Facebook and Google must be RegulatedJennifer Cobbe on the issues surrounding algorithmic reach and recommendations: Regulating Recommending: Motivations, Considerations, and PrinciplesJohn Naughton’s excellent Observer column on why the Facebook Oversight Board is just some corporate theatre masquerading as political theatre Alina Utrata (me!) on Should you have a right to a Facebook account?Other articles:Rene DiRiesta’s famous phrase “free speech is not the same as free reach”Kristoffer Holt on the definition of alternative news mediaLeonie De Jonge on different media models and their affect on the radical right in Europe Google threatening to leave Australia altogether over proposed legal changes—would they become a “Bing” country?French President Sarkozy on “civilizing” the internet and Macron’s IGF speech on the need for more state involvement in Internet governance and regulationBooks:Michael Sandel’s excellent book the Tyranny of Meritocracy, and a wonderful Talking Politics episode with him (in case you don’t have time to read the full thing!)The Real Cyber War: The Political Economy of Internet Freedom by Shawn M. Powers and Michael JablonskiNowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 18, 2021 • 56min
Corporations, Content Moderation and Community-Centered Tech
2020 was one hell of a year (literally). Alina Utrata, Mallika Balakrishnan and Kyra Jasper break down some of the things that happened in 2020’s technology politics—from the Trump Twitter ban, to content moderation, contact tracing and conspiracy theories, to how we design digital spaces that empower communities and bottom-up approaches to digital justice. Follow Alina Utrata on Twitter.Follow Kyra Jasper on Twitter.Sign up for the Anti-Dystopians newsletter.Articles mentioned in this podcastAxios roundup of all of the digital platforms that have banned Trump or Trump-related content (so far). An anarchist’s approach to social media, or how can we empower communities to shape their own digital spaces? Plus, some critiques of the Wikipedia model. For how digital platforms have affected trans folks, the Guardian on Facebook’s authentic names policy and Ina Fried on Wikipedia’s gender identity style guide.On the power of Facebook’s lookalike audience and group recommendations. Stop the Seal groups on Facebook, ads for military gear next to insurrection posts (is this a . . . feature, not a bug?), and racism in Facebook targeted housing adsOn WhatsApp’s new policy—why it’s bad (spoiler alert: it’s giving Facebook your data) and a nice New Yorker feature on Signal co-founder Moxie Marlinspike.More on Maria Ressa and Facebook in the Philippines, Vietnam’s threat to shut down Facebook unless it agrees to censorship, and Singapore’s COVID-19 contact tracing app.The SEC is investigating Zoom for complying with Chinese censorship requests over Tiananmen square commemorations—and more on Zoom’s censorship of Palestinan events. Elon Musk saying that his goal is Mars indentured servitude. Also of note, the space battle shaking down between Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos (it centers around satellite internet for rural communities). Plus, in more inspiring news, the Institute for Self Reliance on community-based broadband networks (they have a great podcast too).And how Selena Gomez emailed Sheryl Sandberg about white supremacy on Facebook. Plus, some lockdown reads! David Runciman’s How Democracy Ends (it’s actually more optimistic than the title would have you believe, I promise). And Ruha Benjamin’s absolutely brilliant book Race After Technology. Nowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 21, 2020 • 49min
No Tech for Tyrants
Alina Utrata talks to Mallika Balakrishnan, one of the original founders of the collective No Tech for Tyrants. They discuss tech activism, problems with Palantir and how centering the conversation around the people and communities that tech and policies impact can help us frame discussions of technology and politics. Tweet at AlinaTweet at MallikaArticles Mentioned In this PodcastA report, co-authored by Mallika, by No Tech For Tyrants and Privacy International about UK government contracts with Palantir and associated Motherboard coverage. You can sign the NT4T petition here. For more information about No Tech for Tyrants check out their website here and here.More reporting on how Palantir’s technology was used by ICE and on trouble between the NYPD and Palantir.Speaking of Palantir, you can check out our previous podcast episodes where we discuss the founder of Palantir Peter Thiel or Biden’s pick for Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines, who used to work for Palantir. More on the firing of Timnit Gebru, the prominent Black scientist studying the ethics of artificial intelligence at Google, and on the links between Big Tech and academic research.What we can learn about Facebook by thinking like an anarchist, or at least by reading Yale professor James Scott’s work.On Nicholas Kristof’s article about Pornhub, and reporting by Samantha Cole about how it has impacted performers on the site. Another interesting article about how GoFundMe said it would stop processing payments for militias. Nowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


