

Conquering Your Fibromyalgia Podcast
Dr. Michael Lenz MD
When I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. In the exam room, time is limited. But the need for understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia is vast. That’s why I created this space: to offer deeper education, validation, and hope.If you’ve been told that fibromyalgia "isn’t real'" or that it’s "all in your head," I want you to know: I see you. I believe you. And you're not alone. This podcast is here to affirm what you’ve lived through and to explain the science behind what you’re experiencing.Whether you're living with fibromyalgia, supporting someone who is, or a healthcare professional seeking to better serve your patients, I hope you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insight drawn from my 28+ years as a medical doctor, pediatrician, internist, lifestyle medicine physician, and clinical lipidologist.Together, let’s bring compassion and clarity to a condition that’s too often misunderstood—and help make the invisible, visible. You can learn more at www.conqueringyourfibromyalgia.com.
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Jun 5, 2024 • 39min
Ep 154 What is Interoception and why you need to know about it? with Kelly Mahler OT
Text Dr. Lenz any feedback or questions In this podcast episode, Dr. Michael Lenz introduces Kelly Mahler, an occupational therapist who discusses the often overlooked aspect of our sensory experiences: interoception. Kelly explains interoception as the body's ability to perceive its internal state, which affects emotions, hunger, pain, and more. She shares insights into how recognizing and fostering interoception can improve life quality, reduce distress, and aid in managing chronic conditions like fibromyalgia. The conversation also covers the challenges of those with interoceptive differences, particularly in the neurodivergent community, and the importance of personalized approaches to therapy. Kelly and Dr. Lenz also touch on the scientific backing of interoception and its relevance in both understanding oneself and navigating healthcare interactions more effectively.00:00 Welcome to the Podcast: Introducing Occupational Therapy and Interoception00:47 Meet the Host: Dr. Michael Lens's Background and Disclaimer01:13 Introducing Kelly Mahler: The Occupational Therapist's Journey01:33 Understanding Occupational Therapy and Sensory Processing02:44 Diving Deep into Our Senses: Beyond the Basic Five04:34 Exploring Interoception: The Internal Sense05:08 Kelly's Personal and Professional Discovery of Interoception05:57 The Impact of Interoception Differences on Daily Life13:39 Investigating the Causes of Interoception Differences16:39 The Real-life Consequences of Interoception Differences22:12 Improving Interoception: Strategies and Mindfulness25:04 Raising Interoception Awareness: Education and Advocacy31:27 Final Thoughts and Resources for Interoception International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers. Support the showWhen I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. You’re not alone. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 28+ years as an MD. Please remember to talk with your doctor about your symptoms and care. This content doesn’t replace personal medical advice.* ...

May 29, 2024 • 44min
Ep 153 Finding Strength in Diagnosis: Can Understanding Fibromyalgia, Autism, and ADHD Transform Lives? Part 2
Text Dr. Lenz any feedback or questions This episode of the podcast features a conversation with Dr. Stacy Greeter, a physician who shares her personal experience with autism, ADHD, and fibromyalgia. Hosted by Dr. Michael Lenz, they delve into the challenges and encouragements for individuals living with these conditions and their loved ones. Dr. Greeter's unique perspective as both a clinician and a patient offers insights into the importance of understanding, support, and the right medical care. She discusses her diagnosis process and the importance of self-care routines. Additionally, the episode explores the difficulties neurodivergent individuals face in the healthcare system and provides advice for clinicians on improving care. Encouragement is offered to those living with fibromyalgia and neurodivergent conditions, emphasizing the importance of self-compassion and understanding from loved ones and healthcare professionals.00:00 Introduction to the Conversation with Dr. Stacy Greeter01:01 Dr. Greeter's Personal Journey with Fibromyalgia and Vaccination03:29 Navigating the Diagnosis: Speed and Privilege06:18 Understanding Fibromyalgia: Symptoms, Diagnosis, and Treatment07:04 Exploring the Intersection of Autism, ADHD, and Fibromyalgia14:22 The Diagnostic Journey and Recognizing Neurodiversity18:26 Challenges and Insights from an Autistic Psychiatrist24:33 Empowering Neurodivergent Individuals and Clinicians30:51 Closing Thoughts and Encouragement International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers. Joy LenzFibromyalgia 101. A list of fibromyalgia podcast episodes that are great if you are new and don't know where to start. Support the showWhen I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. You’re not alone. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 28+ years as an MD. Please remember to talk with your doctor about your symptoms and care. This content doesn’t replace personal medical advice.* ...

May 22, 2024 • 39min
Ep 152 A Neurospicy Psychiatrist's Journey with Fibromyalgia: Dr. Stacey Greeter Part 1
Dr. Stacey Greeter, a psychiatrist sharing her journey with autism, fibromyalgia, and ADHD. Topics include accurate diagnosis importance, challenges faced in medical field, understanding autism in adults, impact of diagnosis, and advocating for patient-centric medical practices.

May 15, 2024 • 29min
Ep 151 What is a Fibromyalgia coach and how might working with one be helpful for those with Fibromyalgia? Part 3
Text Dr. Lenz any feedback or questions Georgie Coghlan's work as a coach involves educating and empowering individuals living with fibromyalgia to find symptom management strategies that work for them. Her story is not just one of overcoming personal health challenges but also of using those experiences to create a business dedicated to helping others navigate similar paths. The interview also touches on the connection between fibromyalgia and ADHD, the paradoxical effects of stimulants, and the importance of a support system in managing chronic health issues.00:00 Introduction to Georgie Coughlin's Journey00:41 Discovering ADHD Amidst Fibromyalgia05:22 Exploring the Link Between ADHD and Fibromyalgia10:39 The Role of Exercise and Lifestyle in Managing Fibromyalgia12:30 What is a Fibromyalgia Coach and how she can help you? 18:27 Final Thoughts and Encouragement International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers. Support the showWhen I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. You’re not alone. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 28+ years as an MD. Please remember to talk with your doctor about your symptoms and care. This content doesn’t replace personal medical advice.* ...

May 8, 2024 • 30min
Ep 150 Is Reversing Fibromyalgia possible? Fibromyalgia Coach Georgie Coghlan Part 2
Holistic Fibromyalgia Coach, Georgie Coghlan, discusses the complexities of fibromyalgia, chronic stress impact, nervous system role, and somatic therapy. Exploring links between ADHD, trauma, and fibromyalgia, she shares strategies for achieving symptom-free living and making conscious health choices.

May 4, 2024 • 31min
Ep 149 Fibromyalgia Awareness Day and What is a Pain Recipe?
Text Dr. Lenz any feedback or questions Understanding and Managing Fibromyalgia: Strategies for a Better Quality of LifeIn this episode, Dr. Michael Lenz discusses Fibromyalgia Awareness Day and explores the 'pain recipe' concept as a framework for understanding and managing fibromyalgia. He addresses common myths about the condition, emphasizing its reality as a medical issue that affects the brain and central nervous system's processing of pain signals. The episode provides insights into symptoms, triggers, diagnosis criteria, and management strategies, including medication, exercise, and holistic approaches. Dr. Lenz highlights the importance of a comprehensive approach to treatment and shares personal stories from individuals with fibromyalgia to illustrate the diverse factors that can influence symptom flare-ups and relief. The discussion extends to the broader challenges of navigating the healthcare system for those with fibromyalgia and related conditions. Dr. Lenz, who is also the author of 'Conquering Your Fibromyalgia' and host of the related podcast, aims to offer research-backed, comprehensive care advice to those dealing with this complex and often misunderstood condition.00:00 Welcome to Fibromyalgia Awareness Day Special00:10 Understanding Fibromyalgia: Myths, Management, and Misconceptions02:30 Meet Your Host: Dr. Michael Lenz04:37 Exploring the Pain Recipe: Insights from the Fibromyalgia Community05:49 Personal Stories: Managing Fibromyalgia Symptoms15:27 Comprehensive Care and the Future of Fibromyalgia Management22:02 Closing Thoughts and Next Steps International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers. Support the showWhen I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. You’re not alone. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 28+ years as an MD. Please remember to talk with your doctor about your symptoms and care. This content doesn’t replace personal medical advice.* ...

May 1, 2024 • 36min
Ep 148 Journey Towards Holistic Healing: A Conversation with Fibromyalgia Coach Georgie Coghlan Part 1
Text Dr. Lenz any feedback or questions Navigating Fibromyalgia with fibromyalgia coach Georgie Coghlan: A Journey of Self-Discovery and HealingThis is the first episode in a 3 part in-depth interview with Georgie Coghlan, a holistic fibromyalgia coach who shares her personal journey from being diagnosed with fibromyalgia in 2003 to finding ways to manage and improve her symptoms outside mainstream medicine. The discussion encompasses her early symptoms, struggles with the healthcare system, and eventual path to recovery by addressing not just the physical but also psychological and environmental aspects of the condition. Insights on a holistic bio-psycho-social-spiritual-environmental approach towards treating chronic pain syndromes like fibromyalgia, emphasizing the importance of a comprehensive care model are discussed. The episode also covers the significant impact of lifestyle choices and the environment on health and the complexity of diagnosing and treating overlapping conditions such as fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. 00:00 Meet Georgie Coghlan: A Journey from Fibromyalgia Patient to Holistic Coach00:36 Understanding Fibromyalgia: A Holistic Medical Perspective02:19 Georgie's Personal Battle with Fibromyalgia and the Quest for Healing03:34 Exploring the Biopsychosocial Model for Fibromyalgia Treatment08:23 Georgie's Early Symptoms and Misdiagnosis Journey18:09 Lifestyle Factors and Their Impact on Fibromyalgia22:29 The Psychological Toll of Chronic Pain and the Path to Recovery28:48 Summary and Key Takeaways from Georgie's StoryTo contact Georgie go to the www.befriendingthebody.com International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers. Support the showWhen I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. You’re not alone. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 28+ years as an MD. Please remember to talk with your doctor about your symptoms and care. This content doesn’t replace personal medical advice.* ...

Apr 24, 2024 • 34min
Ep. 147 Listener Feedback and answering one listener's request for help with her autistic child struggling with Abdominal Migraines.
Text Dr. Lenz any feedback or questions Listener Feedback and Understanding Abdominal Migraines00:00 Welcome 01:02 Introducing the Podcast: A Holistic Approach to Fibromyalgia02:46 Listener Feedback: Stories of Hope and Healing12:24 Exploring Abdominal Migraines and abdominal pain in autistic individuals17:29 Diet, Gut Health, and Autism: Insights and Treatment Options27:20 Pain Recipes and Closing Thoughts International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers. Support the showWhen I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. You’re not alone. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 28+ years as an MD. Please remember to talk with your doctor about your symptoms and care. This content doesn’t replace personal medical advice.* ...

Apr 17, 2024 • 31min
Ep. 146 Enhancing Care for Chronic Invisible Illnesses Through Understanding and Alliance. Part 3
Text Dr. Lenz any feedback or questions In this last episode of the series with Laura Hogan and Sarah Meuler, both specialized physical therapists, they discuss the significance of patients sharing their personal stories encompassing childhood, strengths, and traumas. They underline the therapeutic value of building trust through listening to patients' narratives, especially for those living with chronic invisible illnesses such as POTS, fibromyalgia, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. 00:00 Welcome to the Interview Series on Chronic Invisible Illnesses00:27 The Power of Patient Stories in Physical Therapy02:11 Building a Therapeutic Alliance and Addressing Emotional Aspects of Chronic Pain05:34 Understanding the Complexity of Chronic Pain Management07:51 The Importance of a Comprehensive Approach in Physical Therapy11:56 Prevention and Family Involvement in Managing Chronic Conditions24:00 Closing Thoughts and the Future of Physical Therapy International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers. Support the showWhen I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. You’re not alone. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 28+ years as an MD. Please remember to talk with your doctor about your symptoms and care. This content doesn’t replace personal medical advice.* ...

Apr 10, 2024 • 32min
Ep. 145 Empowering Patients with Invisible Illnesses Part 2
Text Dr. Lenz any feedback or questions This episode is part 2 of the conversation with physical therapists Lauren Hogan and Sarah Mueler, discussing the lack of updated physical therapy care for patients with chronic invisible illnesses. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding one's condition for better management, debunking the 'no pain, no gain' philosophy, and the role of self-monitoring and journaling in recognizing the body's responses to different activities. Special attention is given to empowering patients to take control of their healthcare, the challenges and strategies for managing conditions like POTS and fibromyalgia, and the overall goal of re-establishing a sense of control for those dealing with invisible health conditions.00:00 Introduction to Chronic Invisible Illnesses and Physical Therapy Insights01:03 Understanding Pain and Gaining Control02:25 Empowering Patients in Their Healthcare Journey04:27 The Role of Journaling and Activity Monitoring in Managing Chronic Conditions16:16 Navigating the Challenges of POTS and Autonomic Conditions20:09 The Power of Listening and Personalized Care in Physical Therapy25:09 Concluding Thoughts and Key Takeaways International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers. Support the showWhen I started this podcast—and the book that came before it—I had my patients in mind. Office visits are short, but understanding complex, often misunderstood conditions like fibromyalgia takes time. That’s why I created this space: to offer education, validation, and hope. If you’ve been told fibromyalgia “isn’t real” or that it’s “all in your head,” know this—I see you. I believe you. You’re not alone. This podcast aims to affirm your experience and explain the science behind it. Whether you live with fibromyalgia, care for someone who does, or are a healthcare professional looking to better support patients, you’ll find trusted, evidence-based insights here, drawn from my 28+ years as an MD. Please remember to talk with your doctor about your symptoms and care. This content doesn’t replace personal medical advice.* ...