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Enneagram in Real Life

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Jan 17, 2025 • 18min

Inside Enneagram in Real Life, Chapter by Chapter

In this episode, you'll find a quick tour of my upcoming book, Enneagram in Real Life. Listen in for short descriptions of each section in the type chapters and tips on how to read and use the book. Each type chapter begins with a short story, revealing what it's like to be inside the life of that type. Today, you'll hear what it's like to be inside a type Six's brain as she's dealing with an emergency situation.There's still time to preorder! If you are at all interested in the book, I would love it. If you would preorder. This is the single most helpful thing you can do to support authors like me because it lets publishers and retailers know that people are interested in the book. So if you want to support my work, OR you're just curious about the Enneagram, this is a fantastic way to delve into it.PREORDER HERE: https://www.ninetypes.co/enneagram-in-real-life
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Jan 10, 2025 • 1h 6min

Am I a 6? Or is that my OCD? with Enneagram 6, Christina S. Wilcox

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, Stephanie meets with Christina S. Wilcox.  They discuss Christina’s journey to identifying her Enneagram type and her evolution from mistyping herself as a Four and a Three before ultimately identifying as a Type Six with a Five wing. Christina reflects on how her experiences with OCD, mental health, and personal motivations have intertwined with her understanding of her Enneagram type.Christina is an author, mental health advocate, enneagram expert, and creative. You may recognize her from her first book Take Care of Your Type: An Enneagram Guide to Self-Care, or from one of her Instagram graphics. As her second book, Take Care of your Friends is released, Christina continues to pursue her passion for writing and analysis of behavior as she works a 9-5 in Content Strategy. She hopes to continue to advance her understanding of the Enneagram while expanding her written work and online content into other mental health topics outside of personality typing systems. She currently resides in Denver, Colorado with her husband Noah, and their puppy, Moose! When she’s not writing or creating, you can find Christina indulging in cozy video games, books across every genre, and quality time with friends and family. 🔗 Connect with Christina!💻 https://www.christinaswilcox.com/📷 Instagram: @christinaswilcox🎥Youtube: @genuinelycareaboutyoupodcast📖 https://www.christinaswilcox.com/books🔗 Connect with Steph!💻 https://ninetypes.co/📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhallHere are the key takeaways:Christina’s background and how she discovered the EnneagramTyping as a Six and searching for certaintyDifferentiating diagnosable OCD, Anxiety, and type Six patternsThe compulsion of rumination of OCDNot being truly seen because of maskingTalking about how stereotypes can be hurtfulIntellectualizing emotions as a head typeGetting information about emotions through the bodyTouching on how heart types show up in Typing InterviewsHow does Christina see Type Six and 5 wing in daily life?Needing to feel certain to feel safeThe importance of facing the fear and feeling the pain How to connect with ChristinaResources mentioned in this episode:Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP)Beatrice Chestnut Little Women by Louisa May AlcottTomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow by Gabrielle ZevinWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.
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Jan 7, 2025 • 23min

SNEAK PEEK of Enneagram in Real Life (the Book)

In this episode, I'm excited to share an excerpt from my brand new book! In Enneagram in Real Life, you’ll find a step-by-step guide to use the Enneagram as a practical tool for self-discovery, self-awareness, curiosity, and relational wholeness.Listen in to learn why I wrote the book, who it's for, and some of the challenges I've faced on my own Enneagram journey. There's still time to preorder! If you are at all interested in the book, I would love it. If you would preorder. This is the single most helpful thing you can do to support authors like me because it lets publishers and retailers know that people are interested in the book. So if you want to support my work, OR you're just curious about the Enneagram, this is a fantastic way to delve into it. PREORDER HERE: https://www.ninetypes.co/enneagram-in-real-life
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Dec 26, 2024 • 56min

An Enneagram 1's Path to Freedom, Wholeness, and Letting Go with Brian Lee

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Brian Lee. Brian is a pastor, coach, and speaker. As a survivor of spiritual abuse and religious trauma, he has spent his time since leaving vocational ministry in 2021 working to provide recovery and resources for fellow victims and survivors. In 2023, he created and founded Broken to Beloved, a nonprofit organization that exists to help other victims and survivors through its Annual Summit and seasonal Cohorts, while also providing trauma awareness and safeguarding practices to pastors, leaders an​​d churches.🔗 Connect with Brian Lee💻 https://www.brokentobeloved.org/📷 Instagram: @brokentobeloved🔗 Connect with Steph!💻 https://ninetypes.co/📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhallHere are the key takeaways:Noticing Type One patterns growing upFeeling like a mistake can lead to losing everythingThe Enneagram versus other systems of personalityKnowing what to do when trauma happensWhat is Broken to Beloved?Talking Spiritual Bypass (neglecting psych work) and Toxic PositivityHow does Brian’s type show up?Accessing the arrows to 4 and 7Shifting Type One patterns and moving toward transformation Working with shame and “worm theology”Discussing Brian’s Social Type One experience with the inner critic“One” by Sleeping At Last — “grace requires nothing of me.”Words for other Type Ones on this inner work journeyHow to connect with BrianResources mentioned in this episode:Tiny Traumas by Meg Arroll Internal Family Systems“One” by Sleeping At LastAs Long as You Need: Permission to Grieve by J. S. ParkIt's Not You by Ramani Durvasula PhDWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Want to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.
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May 21, 2024 • 58min

Showing Up: Embodied Inner Work as an Enneagram 5 with Chris Schoolcraft

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Chris Schoolcraft. Chris has led and coached individuals, teams, and organizations through adversity for over 25 years. During this time, he has worked in religious, non-profit, and corporate settings, investing in urban, small towns, and suburban communities. He has learned from and supported both the disenfranchised and the ultra-wealthy, personally and professionally, partnering with non-profits and businesses to positively impact communities and lives.A little over 8 years ago, Chris's life underwent a foundation-shaking shift, prompting him to seek new tools, perspectives, and relationships. He was introduced to the Enneagram, engaged in therapy focusing on inner child work, and enlisted a professional coach. Chris discovered a newfound authenticity and resilience, leading to a richer and deeper life. Out of this life-changing journey, Chris feels a clearer call to lead and coach organizations, teams, groups, and individuals toward greater self-awareness, growth, depth, and transformation.🔗 Connect with Chris!💻 https://www.clsleadership.com/📷 Instagram: @cls.leadership🔗 Connect with Steph!💻 https://ninetypes.co/📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhallHere are the key takeaways:Chris talks about his background & how he discovered the EnneagramTyping as a Five and spending a year exploring his typeDiscovering his subtype as an SP Five“As Fives, we perfected getting our needs met without asking”Discussing boundaries and privacy Type Five childhood wound - Either abandoned or too intruded uponNervous system overloadThe passion of “Avarice” and fixation of “Stinginess” “Fives want to know the answer before they get to the conversation”Fives learning to “do”Origin stories and how they make up who we areHow does Chris see his type in work?Coming out of the “abstract” and experiencing the presentConnecting to other Intelligence CentersChris’ experience in leadershipHow can people connect with Fives?Practical advice for Fives beginning their self-discovery journeyResources mentioned in this episode:The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron & Suzanne Stabile The Essential Enneagram by David DanielsEnneagram teachers — Russ Hudson, Beatrice Chestnut & Uranio PaesBringing Your Shadow Out of the Dark by Augustus Masters RobertNot sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.
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May 14, 2024 • 56min

Finding Your Guiding Light (Enneagram Virtues) with GLDN Founder and Enneagram 7, Chrissy Lavdovsky

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Chrissy Lavdovksy, the passionate founder and lead designer of GLDN Jewelry: a studio she started a decade ago with just fifty bucks in her pocket…and organically grew into the beloved brand it is today. Her dream was to create personal, meaningful jewelry that connects people to their stories and makers to their craft through conscious, thoughtful practices. Chrissy’s enthusiasm for design and love for exploring our humanness became the cornerstones of GLDN, transforming jewelry into intrinsically charged keepsakes that represent what you care about most. GLDN just launched their biggest labor of love yet: the Enneagram Collection that they spent four years designing. The collection features a reversible necklace for every enneagram type, with custom symbols hand-illustrated by Chrissy to represent each type’s gift and guiding light.Use code NINETYPES at checkout for 15% off the Enneagram Collection or any of their timeless, ethically-made staples. 🔗 Connect with GLDN!💻 https://gldn.com/📷 Instagram: @itsgldn📱 TikTok: @itsgldn🔗 Connect with Steph!💻 https://ninetypes.co/📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhallHere are the key takeaways:Chrissy’s background and what inspired her to create GLDNDiscovering the system & gaining self-awareness as a Seven through the Enneagram“Pain for me was boredom”GLDN’s Enneagram collection: How did Chrissy develop the concept?Chrissy walks through each Enneagram type’s “Gift” and “Guiding Light” of the pendants Highlighting the virtues in our growth path“You don’t have to be chasing. It is in you. It is here.”What skills and practices have helped Chrissy as a Type SevenGratitude vs. Enthusiasm Steph talks about her perspective on the “Gift” and “Guiding Light” for ThreeWhere to find GLDN and the Enneagram CollectionResources mentioned in this episode:Waking Up AppRapid Transformational TherapyInsight TimerThe Power of Now by Eckhart TolleNot sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.
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May 7, 2024 • 1h 4min

Navigating Identity as a Busy Mom with Enneagram 9s Susanne & Missy, Hosts of the Mom &... Podcast

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Missy Stevens and Susanne Kerns of the “Mom and…” Podcast. Missy Stevens is a writer, foster child advocate, and podcaster. Her past life includes stints as a corporate community relations manager, and non-profit communications writer. These days, Missy is an aspiring novelist, slowly working on endless revisions of her first manuscript. Her work has been featured in local and national online publications, as well as in the stage production, Listen to Your Mother.  Susanne is a humor writer living in Austin, Texas with her husband and two children. Her work has been featured in Scary Mommy, Redbook, Today Parents and several parenting anthologies. She's currently writing her first non-fiction book. and also runs "Informed Parents of Austin," a group she founded to advocate for LGBTQIA+ students, families and staff in her school district.Listen to the “Mom and…” Podcast Here!🔗 Connect with Susanne and Missy!💻 https://momandpodcast.com📷 Instagram: @momandpod🎥 Youtube: @momandpodcast📱 Facebook: @MomAndPodcast🔗 Connect with Steph!💻 https://ninetypes.co/📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhallHere are the key takeaways:The story behind the “Mom and…” Podcast “Make your ellipsis count”Missy’s typing journey as an Enneagram NineSusanne’s typing experience as an Enneagram NineNine’s standing up for justiceWings vs. subtypesA breakdown of Self-Pres, Social, and One-to-one NineBrief growth paths for each subtypeWhat is it like working together as two Nines?Taking time to rest and revitalizeReflecting on the world shutting down during the pandemicNumbing out the world as a NineSusanne and Missy’s advice to other Nines beginning their Self-discovery journeyWhere to find the “Mom and…” duo!Resources mentioned in this episode:The Wisdom of the Enneagram by Riso and HudsonThe Artist's Way by Julia CameronFeel-Good Productivity by Ali AbdaalThe 5 Resets by Aditi NerurkarRadiant Rebellion by Karen WalrondDevotions by Mary OliverLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.
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Apr 30, 2024 • 1h 8min

Mindfulness, Presence, and an Enneagram Path to Healing Humanity with Dr. Deborah Threadgill Egerton, Type 1

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dr. Deborah Threadgill Egerton. She is an Internationally Respected Psychotherapist, Best-selling Author and Unity and Belonging Advocate for the Healing of Humanity. Affectionately referred to as Dr. E, she has attained IEA Certification with Distinction for her groundbreaking utilization of the Enneagram in the realm of bridging historical divides. Her work is dedicated to dismantling marginalization and transcending the divisive practice of "othering".Dr. E serves as the President of the International Enneagram Association and extends her coaching and mentoring expertise to a diverse spectrum of individuals, including best-selling authors, top-tier executives, spiritual luminaries, accomplished therapists, and a myriad of thought leaders, each hailing from distinct and varied backgrounds. In her multifaceted roles as Consultant, Coach, Mentor, and Spiritual Teacher, Dr. Egerton guides humanity toward harmonious unification. Grab her book, The Enneagram Made Easy, out now!🔗 Connect with Dr. Deborah Egerton!💻 https://www.deborahegerton.com/📷 Instagram: @enneagramjedi📱 Facebook: @DeborahEgerton 👩‍💻 LinkedIn: Dr. Deborah Egerton🔗 Connect with Steph!💻 https://ninetypes.co/📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhallHere are the key takeaways:Diving into Dr. E’s backgroundHow did Dr. Egerton see herself in Type One“Information, when embodied, becomes wisdom” Utilizing all three centers of intelligence What is “A full body ‘yes’”?Practical advice for beginners practicing presence and mindfulness “The present moment is the most important moment of your life”How does her background as a psychotherapist intersect with the work she does with the Enneagram?Paying attention to mental health and wellbeing“Move to the solution”Talking through a few perspectives of Type OneDr. E touches on the Harmonics and Law of ThreeThe story behind the book, The Enneagram Made Easy?“We want to make love and kindness complicated, and it’s not complicated”Utilizing the wings and arrows for growthResources mentioned in this episode:No Bad Parts by Richard Schwartz Learn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide hereNot sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.
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Apr 9, 2024 • 1h 5min

How a Bioinspirationalist Learns from Nature to Spark Ideas & Ignite Action with Dr. Jeff Karp, Enneagram 7

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Jeff Karp, Ph.D., acclaimed mentor and biomedical engineering professor at Harvard Medical School and MIT, a Distinguished Chair at Brigham and Women’s Hospital. As a child, his teacher wanted to hold him back in the second grade. As an adult, he got his PhD, became a celebrated Professor and member of the National Academy of Inventors, and a Distinguished Chair at Brigham and Women’s Hospital where he has co-founded twelve companies, amassed over 100 patents and received 50 awards.Fueled by his Life Ignition Tools, 'LIT', Jeff turned to nature for inspiration to revolutionize lab practices. Now, Jeff is sharing his lessons in his debut book. LIT aims to empower others to take themselves off autopilot and unlock their own reservoirs of potential. Grab a copy of LIT: Life Ignition Tools here!🔗 Connect with Dr. Jeff Karp!💻 https://jeffkarp.com/🔗 Connect with Steph!💻 https://ninetypes.co/📷 Instagram: @ninetypesco🎥Youtube: @stephbarronhallHere are the key takeaways:Jeff’s experience as a child with ADHDHighlighting Jeff’s Enneagram Type, SevenWhat is Radical Simplicity and how is it helpful?What inspired Jeff’s new book, LIT: Life Ignition Tools?Low-energy brain state vs. high-energy brain state?“Do New” practice to tap into a high-energy brain state“Flip the Switch”, a four-step process to bring more awarenessConnecting to your senses to help get out of the headHarnessing creativity by increasing your curiosity Making tiny changes to create momentumExperiencing aweResources mentioned in this episode:Turning Failure into Success: 3 Principles of Radical Simplicity TEDx TalkFeel-Good Productivity by Ali AbdaalInto the Magic Shop by James R. DotyWant to keep the conversation going? Join me on Instagram @ninetypesco to keep learning and chatting about how our types show up in REAL LIFE! Connect with me here: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/?hl=enLearn more about subtypes! Download my free subtypes guide here.Want to stay up to date with all things Nine Types Co? Join my email-list and receive Enneagram reflections, thoughts about growth and personal development. Plus, you’ll get priority access to new offers and courses! Sign up here.Not sure about your type? Get my free self-typing guide and a series of six emails to walk you through the whole process. Sign up here: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guideWant to keep learning about the Enneagram? Grab Steph’s new book, Enneagram in Real Life! Find the book, ebook, or audiobook wherever books are sold.
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Mar 5, 2024 • 58min

Not Perfect Enough to Be a Perfectionist as an Enneagram 1 with Dani Cooper

In this episode, Dani Cooper, a Type One Enneagram, shares insights on embracing imperfections and self-discovery. She discusses growing up with negative messaging, navigating purity culture, and the struggle of being a perfectionist. Dani's journey towards self-acceptance and helping clients with personal growth is highlighted. The discussion includes valuable advice on self-compassion and deepening relationships through emotional awareness.

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