

Play Therapy Podcast
Dr. Brenna Hicks
Your source for centered and focused Play Therapy coaching. A "Master-Class" in Play Therapy. Breaking down the barriers to high-quality Child-Centered Play Therapy (CCPT) education. No paywalls, no ads, no fluff... all content — just expert, accessible training for every play therapist, free of charge.
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Sep 18, 2024 • 19min
200 | Free Play Resistance: Structure-Seeking Kids in Child-Centered Play Therapy
First things first... If you are planning on going to the Oct. 2024 APT Conference in Atlanta, GA, and would like to attend the Play Therapy Podcast meetup, please click the link: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com/meetup. I need to know how many are coming so I can plan for the venue. In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I respond to a question from Judith in Michigan about working with a child who refuses to play in the playroom. This is a common concern among play therapists, especially when working with children who crave structure and find it challenging to engage in free play. I discuss the pitfalls of mixing directive and non-directive approaches, which can create confusion and hinder progress for the child. I explain how children who resist play often exhibit high levels of anxiety and need time to feel comfortable in the playroom. By reflecting their feelings and being patient, we allow them to work through their discomfort at their own pace. I also touch on how children gravitate towards activities that feel safe, such as arts and crafts, and how our role is to create a space where they can explore their choices freely. This episode dives into trusting the CCPT process, letting go of interventions, and fully embracing the child-centered approach. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Sep 17, 2024 • 11min
199 | Session Savvy: Why We Don’t Say ‘Thank You’ in Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this Session Savvy episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I discuss a common habit in the playroom: saying "thank you" to children. While it might seem polite and appropriate in everyday conversations, thanking a child during a child-centered play therapy session can inadvertently shift the dynamics of the relationship. I explore how saying "thank you" can communicate conditional acceptance, suggesting that the child has pleased the therapist, which can unintentionally reinforce people-pleasing behaviors and perfectionism. Instead of saying "thank you," I suggest focusing on tracking the child's choices with statements like, "You chose to give me the sword," or "You chose to clean up." This approach reinforces the child's sense of agency and keeps the focus on their actions and decisions rather than the therapist's approval. By being mindful of our language, we can support the child’s intrinsic motivation and maintain the child-centered nature of the playroom. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Sep 13, 2024 • 13min
198 | "I'm In Charge, and I Want You To Choose!" - What To Do When Kids Try To Make You Choose (Ninja Trick!)
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I address a question from Linae in Colorado, who is working with a child that refuses to make choices during sessions. This is a common issue, as children often struggle with power and control, anxiety, or both, which can lead to resistance in making decisions. I explore how to identify the root cause of this behavior and offer strategies for reflecting feelings, narrating the situation, and using a subtle technique to return responsibility to the child without directly forcing a choice. I also discuss the importance of reflecting on the underlying reasons for the child's discomfort with decision-making. Whether it’s due to a lack of practice in making choices or an attempt to avoid the consequences that come with decision-making, understanding these motives can guide us in supporting the child through this process. This episode is packed with practical tips and a helpful "ninja trick" for therapists when navigating similar scenarios in their play therapy sessions. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Sep 12, 2024 • 13min
197 | Mobile Child-Centered Play Therapy: Tips for Success Outside the Playroom
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer questions from Falon in Pennsylvania and Rudi in Colorado, who are both mobile child-centered play therapists. They are navigating the challenges of conducting CCPT in various settings like homes, libraries, and outdoor spaces, often with interruptions from parents and siblings. I offer guidance on how to maintain the integrity of CCPT, even in environments that aren’t dedicated playrooms. I discuss the importance of having a well-stocked, consistent mobile play kit, creating clear boundaries with parents about expectations, and finding the most suitable locations in the home to minimize distractions. Additionally, I explain why outdoor sessions may be difficult to manage within the CCPT model due to the lack of defined boundaries. Despite the challenges of mobile therapy, I assure listeners that with the right strategies and mindset, it is absolutely possible to deliver effective child-centered play therapy in a mobile environment. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Sep 11, 2024 • 10min
196 | Separation Anxiety in Play Therapy: When Children Want Parents in the Playroom
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I address a question from Shannon in Iowa regarding managing separation anxiety when children want to bring a parent into the playroom. This is a common challenge in child-centered play therapy (CCPT), and I provide guidance on maintaining the therapeutic environment while respecting the child’s need for security. The playroom is a special space reserved for the therapist and the child, and allowing a parent in can disrupt the process and relationship-building in CCPT. I explain how to manage these moments by acknowledging the child's feelings, setting the limit that the playroom is just for the child and therapist, and offering choices that help the child feel more in control of the situation. I also discuss how to involve parents in supporting the process, ensuring they understand the therapeutic value of lobby sessions and the importance of allowing the child to make the decision to enter the playroom at their own pace. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Sep 10, 2024 • 16min
195 | Session Savvy: Avoiding Detours from the Child-Centered Model
Avoiding Third-Person in the Child-Centered Playroom In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I kick off our new Session Savvy series, designed to help play therapists refine their approach and avoid subtle deviations from the child-centered play therapy (CCPT) model. Today, I address a common habit I’ve noticed, especially among those with an academic or school background—referring to oneself in the third person during sessions. While it may seem harmless, this creates a subtle disconnect with the child, distancing the therapist from the relationship that is so central to CCPT. I explain the importance of using first-person language to maintain and deepen the therapeutic connection. Referring to yourself as "I" or "me" reinforces the relationship, ensuring the child feels fully engaged and connected with you. This small change can significantly strengthen the relational bond, which is the foundation of CCPT. If you’ve developed this habit, don't worry—it's an easy adjustment, and being aware of it is the first step toward more effective sessions. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Sep 6, 2024 • 7min
194 | Why Children Don’t Clean Up the Playroom in Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer another insightful question from Danielle in Georgia about managing cleanup in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). Danielle shared that she typically gives children the choice of whether or not to clean up, but she's curious if this aligns with CCPT principles. I explain that in CCPT, the therapist is responsible for cleaning up, while the child’s role is to play. This approach allows children to leave their feelings and experiences in the playroom, providing a cathartic release without the burden of “tidying up” their emotions. I emphasize that when children ask if they need to clean up, it's important to reassure them that cleanup is the therapist's responsibility. For children who still choose to clean up due to anxiety or perfectionism, we can acknowledge their choice while reinforcing that it is not an expectation. This episode also highlights the importance of explaining the cleanup process to parents so they don’t inadvertently pressure the child into cleaning, which can disrupt the therapeutic process. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Sep 5, 2024 • 7min
193 | Welcoming Back Clients: Handling Returns to Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I respond to a question from Danielle in Georgia about handling a client’s return to child-centered play therapy (CCPT) after a year-long hiatus. Danielle's client has spent time reminiscing about previous therapy experiences and wondering about changes in the playroom. I explain that while the process of CCPT remains unchanged, the return of a client often brings a mix of reminiscing and exploratory play. This is natural as the child re-establishes the therapeutic relationship and reassesses old play themes to determine if they still hold significance. I emphasize that therapists should join the child in reminiscing, validating their memories and reflecting their feelings. This connection strengthens the therapeutic bond and allows the child to re-enter the process at their own pace. The goal is to acknowledge the past while supporting the child in rediscovering the work that still needs to be done. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Sep 3, 2024 • 19min
192 | The Indescribable Moments in Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this final episode of the Summer School Series on the Play Therapy Podcast, I delve into the profound insights from Garry Landreth’s The Art of the Relationship. As we wrap up this series, I explore Landreth’s reflections on the dynamic nature of child-centered play therapy (CCPT), emphasizing the importance of presenting our authentic selves to truly connect with and understand the child. I discuss how CCPT allows therapists to experience the child's world while receiving the delicate and subtle messages that reveal the uniqueness of each child's personality. I also highlight Landreth's perspective on the complexity of the therapeutic relationship and how the experiences shared between therapist and child during play therapy are indescribable and can only be fully understood within the context of that relationship. This episode serves as a powerful reminder of the beauty and depth of CCPT, as well as the privilege we have as therapists to engage in this work. Episode Reference: Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Aug 30, 2024 • 17min
191 | Beyond the Diagnosis: How Child-Centered Play Therapy Supports Children with Various Conditions and Diagnoses
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I respond to a question from Bailey in Texas about the effectiveness of child-centered play therapy (CCPT) for children with NF1, a genetic condition. Bailey is working with a six-year-old client whose symptoms resemble ADHD, and she’s curious about the realistic expectations for therapy outcomes. I broaden the discussion to address how CCPT can benefit children with various disorders or diagnoses, emphasizing that while play therapy may not change the underlying condition, it significantly improves a child's ability to cope, build resilience, and develop crucial emotional and relational skills. I also discuss the importance of shifting the focus away from the condition itself and instead highlighting how play therapy fosters self-trust, problem-solving, and emotional regulation. By reframing the conversation with parents, we can help them understand that the true power of CCPT lies in equipping children to navigate their challenges with confidence and competence, regardless of the condition they face. If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.