Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

Dr. Brenna Hicks
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Dec 3, 2024 • 14min

236 | Session Savvy Finale: Preserving the Classical CCPT Model

In this Session Savvy "wrap-up" episode, I end the series by emphasizing the importance of preserving the classical child-centered play therapy (CCPT) model. Reflecting on Louise Guerney's powerful foreword from the book Child-Centered Play Therapy by VanFleet, I discuss the dangers of modifying CCPT to make clinical "improvements" and why staying adherent to the original principles is vital for the model's integrity and effectiveness. I also share insights from my recent trip to Australia, where I tackled the theme of innovation in CCPT. I explain why innovation should focus on delivery of the service of therapy rather than altering the model itself. Much like the timeless utility of a nail, CCPT doesn't need improvement—it works as it is. However, how we deliver, communicate, and share CCPT can and should evolve to ensure it continues to thrive across generations. Episode Reference: VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Play Therapy Podcast Livestream! Jan. 3rd @ 2pm EST Register here (100 attendee limit): https://playtherapypodcast.com/livestream Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Dec 1, 2024 • 13min

235 | Session Savvy: Neutral Language in the Child-Centered Playroom

In this Session Savvy episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I discuss the potential impact of using the word "silly" in the playroom and why it's essential to choose language carefully in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). Words like "silly," while often used with positive intent, can carry unintended connotations based on the child's prior experiences. I explain how such words might be interpreted as negative, depending on the child's history with adults using that term in critical or dismissive ways. To ensure clarity and neutrality, I recommend replacing evaluative language like "silly" with narrative commentary or tracking behavior. For example, instead of saying, "You're being silly," describe the behavior directly: "You're giggling" or "You're running around with your arms in the air." This approach reduces the risk of misinterpretation and keeps the focus on the child's actions, supporting the therapeutic relationship. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Nov 30, 2024 • 13min

234 | Trusting CCPT with Anxious Kids: Why CCPT Works for Every Child

In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer a question from Mary Clare in Illinois, who is working with a 10-year-old client and feeling unsure if child-centered play therapy (CCPT) is the right approach for him. I address her concerns about the child's resistance, performative play, social challenges, and low self-esteem. I explain how these behaviors align perfectly with what CCPT is designed to address, particularly for children struggling with anxiety and emotional avoidance. I also discuss the healing power of CCPT, emphasizing that "just playing" allows children to self-actualize and work through their issues in ways they might not consciously realize. By continuing to provide the right relationship, environment, tools, and time, Mary Clare is giving her client exactly what he needs to grow. This episode serves as a reminder that CCPT is the right approach for any child under 14, as long as we stay consistent and trust the process. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Nov 29, 2024 • 16min

233 | Incorporating Sand Trays in the Child-Centered Play Therapy Playroom

In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I respond to a question from Laura in Washington about incorporating sand trays in a child-centered play therapy (CCPT) playroom. Laura is hesitant due to her dislike of sand and the practical challenges of working in a shared space. I share tips on choosing sand types, such as kinetic sand or Jurassic Sand, to minimize mess and make cleanup easier. I also cover essential miniatures to include in a sand tray, emphasizing the need to represent the three categories of toys in CCPT: acting out/aggressive, creative/emotional, and real-life. Lastly, I clarify the CCPT approach to sand tray play, highlighting that it's a neutral option for children to engage with, without the directive or interpretive elements often associated with Jungian or Adlerian sand tray therapy. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Nov 20, 2024 • 10min

232 | Session Savvy: Avoiding a Common Choice-Giving Mistake in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this Session Savvy episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I discuss the critical importance of phrasing choices correctly in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). While we often focus on including the word "choose" in our choice-giving, the phrasing itself is just as essential. I explain why questions like "Do you want to choose?" or "Would you like to choose?" are problematic, as they invite a "no" response and undermine the structure and empowerment that proper choice-giving offers. I share clear examples of how to frame choices effectively to maintain the child's sense of autonomy and ensure the therapeutic process stays consistent with CCPT principles. I also provide a bonus tip about handling situations where a child creatively solves a problem within the given limits, highlighting the flexibility and depth of the CCPT approach. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Nov 15, 2024 • 12min

231 | How to Overcome Parental Doubts as a Non-Parent Child-Centered Play Therapist

In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I address a thoughtful question from Malley in Texas, who wonders how not having children might influence her work as a play therapist, especially in building trust with parents. Malley expresses concerns about parents questioning her ability to help their children simply because she isn't a parent herself. I share personal anecdotes from my early career and offer insights into how to confidently navigate these situations. I explain that parents care less about credentials or personal circumstances and more about whether they can trust you to help their child. I emphasize the importance of projecting confidence, clearly articulating the principles of child-centered play therapy (CCPT), and building trust through genuine connection. Regardless of whether you're a parent, the key is to instill hope and communicate your expertise effectively, ensuring parents feel supported and reassured. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Nov 14, 2024 • 10min

230 | The Calm Before the Storm: Understanding Shifts in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I respond to a question from Jyotsna in India about a child who enters the playroom calm and reserved but then suddenly shifts to destructive, aggressive play mid-session. I discuss how this kind of transition often represents the "calm before the storm" — the child's internal preparation for the emotional release needed. I explain that this shift is a positive indication that the child is beginning to dive into their therapeutic work, allowing them to release pent-up emotions in a safe space. I also touch on how to handle aggressive behaviors, including setting limits when necessary to ensure safety without stifling the child's expression. This episode is a reminder of the importance of trusting the process in child-centered play therapy (CCPT) and recognizing that children often know what they need to work through, even if their play appears disjointed at first. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Nov 13, 2024 • 15min

229 | Why Children Ask 'How Much Time Is Left?' and Recognizing Termination Readiness

In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer two questions from Chris in the Virgin Islands. First, Chris asks about how to respond when children frequently ask how much time is left in their session. I explain how this can indicate various needs, such as a desire for control, anxiety, or simply curiosity, and share strategies for reflecting their question and, if necessary, providing a neutral, factual answer to help them feel secure. Chris's second question focuses on recognizing when a child is ready for the termination phase. I discuss the signs that indicate a child has reached emotional stability, including resolved issues and no new play themes. I also emphasize the importance of a healthy termination process, which acknowledges the therapeutic relationship while equipping the child to move forward independently. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Nov 12, 2024 • 7min

228 | Session Savvy: Staying Neutral and Avoiding "Body" Commentary in CCPT

In this Session Savvy episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I talk about the importance of avoiding commentary on a child's body or physical actions in the playroom, such as saying, "Your body is telling you it needs to move." While well-intentioned, these types of remarks can lead to interpretation and assumptions, which go against the neutrality required in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). I discuss the need to simply track behavior or reflect content without imposing our own ideas on the child's experience. I provide examples of CCPT-adherent responses that avoid assumptions, highlighting how neutrality supports the therapeutic process by allowing the child to fully own their actions and feelings. This approach helps therapists stay true to CCPT principles and fosters a supportive environment where the child feels free to express themselves without judgment or imposed meaning. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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Nov 11, 2024 • 8min

227 | Revisiting SMART Goals with CCPT for School Settings

In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer a question from Sandy in Iowa about creating SMART Goals, referencing the four universal outcomes in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). Sandy wanted guidance on how to document data to share with parents and teachers in a school setting. I explain how each universal outcome—such as increased self-regulation, self-esteem, emotional vocabulary, and worldview—can be broken down into observable behaviors both in the playroom and in the child's broader environment. I also discuss how to communicate these outcomes effectively, highlighting the importance of linking observed themes and shifts in play back to the child's goals. For example, shifts from power and control themes to balanced play can indicate progress in self-regulation. Finally, I provide tips on differentiating between psychotherapy notes and progress notes, emphasizing the unique purpose each serves in CCPT documentation. Related Episode: SMART Goals and Child-Centered Play Therapy: How to Bridge the Gap in a School Setting Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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