

Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy
Dr. Brenna Hicks
Your source for centered and focused Play Therapy coaching. A "Master-Class" in Play Therapy. Breaking down the barriers to high-quality Child-Centered Play Therapy (CCPT) education. No paywalls, no ads, no fluff... all content — just expert, accessible training for every play therapist, free of charge.
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Dec 18, 2024 • 13min
244 | Why Kids Use "Potty Talk" in Session — And How to Stay Child-Centered When Responding
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer a question from Monica in California about how to handle “potty talk” in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). Monica shares that her 5-year-old client often says words like “butt” and giggles during sessions, and she wonders how to respond within the CCPT framework. I explore the different reasons children use potty talk, including age-appropriate behavior, boundary testing, relational testing, and seeking shock value. I also highlight how the playroom provides a unique space where children can express themselves freely without judgment or consequence. I offer practical advice on how to stay neutral, reflect the content, and enlarge the child’s experience when appropriate. By responding calmly and without judgment, we can help children process what they need to work through while maintaining the trust and safety of the therapeutic relationship. This approach allows us to remain truly child-centered, supporting the child’s emotional growth and expression. Play Therapy Podcast Livestream! Jan. 3rd @ 2pm EST Register here (100 attendee limit): https://playtherapypodcast.com/livestream Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Dec 17, 2024 • 13min
243 | A Tidal Wave of Change: How CCPT is Transforming Lives Worldwide
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I share a collection of inspiring emails from therapists, parents, and listeners who have fallen in love with child-centered play therapy (CCPT). These stories highlight the powerful transformations happening in children, families, and the play therapy community worldwide. From parents finding hope and connection with their children, to therapists passionately advocating for CCPT in their practice, these emails demonstrate how CCPT is creating meaningful change. I reflect on how children’s mental health needs are greater than ever and how CCPT is becoming a tidal wave of support, healing, and growth. As we head into the new year, I hope these stories encourage and remind you of the incredible impact CCPT has, one therapeutic hour at a time. Together, we’re changing the world, one child at a time. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Dec 13, 2024 • 27min
242 | Children Deserve Therapy: The Case for Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I address a question from Yehudis in New York about the growing belief that child therapy should be a “last resort” and that the focus should be on working with parents instead. I discuss why this perspective is misleading and share several compelling reasons why child-centered play therapy (CCPT) is essential for children, even when their external circumstances remain unchanged. I explain how CCPT gives children power and control, making them the agents of change within their families, and how they benefit from the four universal outcomes of CCPT: self-regulation, emotional vocabulary, self-esteem, and worldview. I also talk about the importance of advocating for CCPT and why many therapists who favor working with parents may simply lack the training or understanding of how powerful and transformative child-centered therapy can be. This episode is a rallying call for play therapists to confidently communicate the value of their work and continue advocating for children’s right to healing, growth, and therapeutic support. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast

Dec 12, 2024 • 13min
241 | Short on Time, Big on Impact: CCPT for Kids with Communication Barriers
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer a question from Ailene in North Carolina, a clinical counseling student working with a partially deaf child who speaks Spanish. Ailene is concerned about having only eight sessions to help the child, who experiences anxiety and frustration due to communication barriers. I discuss how children with physical or developmental differences often struggle with self-worth and confidence, and how child-centered play therapy (CCPT) is well-suited to address these emotional challenges, even in a short timeframe. I offer encouragement, emphasizing that the therapeutic relationship is impactful regardless of the number of sessions or the therapist's experience level. I also share ideas on advocating for more sessions and thinking creatively to secure additional support for the child. Ultimately, even a few CCPT sessions can be a gift, providing a safe space where the child feels understood, accepted, and loved. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Dec 11, 2024 • 14min
240 | It’s Not About the Toys: The Power of the Therapeutic Relationship in CCPT
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer two thoughtful questions from Mikayla, a graduate student and new play therapist in Illinois. Mikayla asks whether child-centered play therapy (CCPT) will still work if she doesn’t have a fully stocked playroom and whether the approach can be effective even when she feels she’s still learning. I reassure her that while having a variety of toys is helpful, children will use whatever materials are available to express themselves and work through their issues. It’s the therapeutic relationship, not the toys, that is the heart of CCPT. I also address her concerns about technical application, emphasizing that none of us apply the CCPT model perfectly all the time — and that’s okay! The most important element is maintaining the child-centered relationship and trusting the process. If you focus on being present, using reflective responses, and practicing the core be-with attitudes, you are on the right path. Play Therapy Podcast Livestream! Jan. 3rd @ 2pm EST Register here (100 attendee limit): https://playtherapypodcast.com/livestream Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Dec 10, 2024 • 13min
239 | The Power of "Yet": A Simple Word That Changes Reflective Responding in Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I share a simple but powerful "Pro Tip": the importance of adding the word “yet” when returning responsibility to children in the playroom. When children struggle to accomplish something and feel frustrated or defeated, our well-meaning phrases like, “You can do it!” can sometimes come across as dismissive. By adding the word “yet,” as in, “You haven’t figured it out yet,” we acknowledge the child’s struggle while also instilling hope and confidence that success is still possible. I explain how this small shift in language helps maintain the child-centered play therapy (CCPT) principles of returning responsibility and esteem-building, while avoiding the disconnect that can occur when a child feels they’ve failed. This approach supports children in continuing their self-actualizing work, even when they choose to take a break from their challenges. It’s a subtle but effective way to encourage without invalidating their experience. Play Therapy Podcast Livestream! Jan. 3rd @ 2pm EST Register here (100 attendee limit): https://playtherapypodcast.com/livestream Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Dec 5, 2024 • 13min
238 | Transitioning from Directive to Non-Directive: From Moms in the Room to Letting Go of Plans
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I answer two questions from Alyssa in California, a therapist in training, about working with children in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). First, Alyssa asks about transitioning a six-year-old client with separation anxiety from sessions where her mom is present to sessions where it’s just the child and therapist. I share strategies for setting clear expectations, offering empowering choices, and helping the child feel comfortable while maintaining the CCPT model. Alyssa’s second question focuses on whether therapists should come to sessions with specific activities in mind. I explain why CCPT relies entirely on the child’s lead, trusting that they will know what they need to work on. This approach may challenge those who like to plan, but it ensures that the therapeutic process remains child-centered. These questions highlight key aspects of CCPT practice, offering practical tips for therapists navigating similar scenarios. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Dec 4, 2024 • 27min
237 | Navigating End-of-Session Challenges: Taking Toys and Child Won’t Leave the Playroom
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I address a question from Jess in Florida about how to handle a child who refuses to leave the playroom after being asked to return a toy. Jess shares her experience with a seven-year-old client who initially resisted putting back a Lego treasure chest and then curled up on the floor, refusing to leave. I discuss how to set limits effectively within the child-centered play therapy (CCPT) model, emphasizing the importance of reflecting feelings, maintaining patience, and creating choices that empower the child to self-regulate. I also provide strategies for situations where the session runs over time due to these challenges and how to manage communication with waiting parents and clients. This episode offers practical advice on limit setting and highlights the value of sticking to CCPT principles, even in difficult moments. Play Therapy Podcast Livestream! Jan. 3rd @ 2pm EST Register here (100 attendee limit): https://playtherapypodcast.com/livestream Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Dec 3, 2024 • 14min
236 | Session Savvy Finale: Preserving the Classical CCPT Model
In this Session Savvy "wrap-up" episode, I end the series by emphasizing the importance of preserving the classical child-centered play therapy (CCPT) model. Reflecting on Louise Guerney’s powerful foreword from the book Child-Centered Play Therapy by VanFleet, I discuss the dangers of modifying CCPT to make clinical “improvements” and why staying adherent to the original principles is vital for the model’s integrity and effectiveness. I also share insights from my recent trip to Australia, where I tackled the theme of innovation in CCPT. I explain why innovation should focus on delivery of the service of therapy rather than altering the model itself. Much like the timeless utility of a nail, CCPT doesn’t need improvement—it works as it is. However, how we deliver, communicate, and share CCPT can and should evolve to ensure it continues to thrive across generations. Episode Reference: VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Play Therapy Podcast Livestream! Jan. 3rd @ 2pm EST Register here (100 attendee limit): https://playtherapypodcast.com/livestream Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Dec 1, 2024 • 13min
235 | Session Savvy: Neutral Language in the Child-Centered Playroom
In this Session Savvy episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I discuss the potential impact of using the word "silly" in the playroom and why it’s essential to choose language carefully in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). Words like "silly," while often used with positive intent, can carry unintended connotations based on the child’s prior experiences. I explain how such words might be interpreted as negative, depending on the child’s history with adults using that term in critical or dismissive ways. To ensure clarity and neutrality, I recommend replacing evaluative language like "silly" with narrative commentary or tracking behavior. For example, instead of saying, "You’re being silly," describe the behavior directly: "You’re giggling" or "You’re running around with your arms in the air." This approach reduces the risk of misinterpretation and keeps the focus on the child’s actions, supporting the therapeutic relationship. Sign up for my exclusive newsletter at playtherapynow.com. Stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.