

Dental Leaders Podcast
Prav Solanki & Payman Langroudi
The Dental Leaders podcast takes you on a behind the scenes journey with emerging leaders in dentistry. Success leaves clues, and these conversations uncover the depth, detail, and backstory behind our guests.
The show is hosted by dental entrepreneurs Payman Langroudi & Prav Solanki. Let the conversation flow.
Find out more at https://www.dentalleaders.co.uk/
The show is hosted by dental entrepreneurs Payman Langroudi & Prav Solanki. Let the conversation flow.
Find out more at https://www.dentalleaders.co.uk/
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May 30, 2024 • 1h 40min
#241 Ortho Empire — Siamack Bagheri
Prav and Payman chat with Siamack Bagheri, a highly successful orthodontist who owns ten large orthodontic practices with his wife. Siamack shares his story of coming to the UK from Iran in the 1970s and pursuing dentistry. He discusses the challenges he faced during dental school and how those experiences shaped him.
The conversation touches on recruitment challenges, the shift toward temp agencies, the business advantages of new tech in aligner therapy, and more.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:02:15 - Backstory
00:04:35 - Choosing dentistry
00:07:40 - Dental School
00:14:50 - The next generation
00:18:00 - Case selection
00:21:35 - Practice management
00:31:35 - Ortho technology
00:35:50 - Referring cases
00:40:40 - Clinical work
00:44:45 - Recruitment
00:48:10 - Remote monitoring and aligner therapy
00:51:45 - Blackbox thinking
01:00:15 - Early interceptive orthodontics
01:02:25 - Fears
01:06:05 - Looking back
01:08:10 - Fantasy dinner party
01:10:15 - Last days and legacy
About Siamack Bagheri
Siamack Bagheri graduated from Bristol University in 1987. He then gained orthodontic qualifications from the Royal Colleges of England and Edinburgh and an MSc from the University of London. He is the principal of a group of 10 orthodontic clinics in London, Cheltenham, and Shropshire.

May 24, 2024 • 1h 24min
Mind Movers #25 — Daniel Daggers
Rhona and Payman chat with Daniel Daggers, a successful luxury real estate agent, founder of Drew Global, and star of Netflix’s Buying London.
Daniel shares his rise from humble beginnings in local authority housing to becoming a top agent, dealing with challenges like bullying and trolling along the way.
He discusses his people-centric approach to business, the importance of personal branding, and his philosophy of enabling others to achieve their potential.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:03:05 - Backstory
00:12:20 - Trauma and challenges
00:17:55 - Staring in property
00:33:35 - Personal brands
00:37:20 - High-end properties
00:41:05 - Building and running a business
00:53:45 - Dubai real estate
00:59:50 - Family, love, support and opportunities
01:06:05 - Netflix
01:10:35 - Low point
01:14:20 - People Vs property person
01:16:15 - Recognising potential
01:17:00 - Being recognised in public
01:22:20 - Lessons from high-net worth individuals
01:22:45 - Advice to younger self
About Daniel Daggers
Daniel Daggers is a luxury real estate expert and the star of Netflix's Buying London. With over two decades of experience, he has established himself as a leader in the prime and super prime property markets worldwide. His track record includes advising on the sale of more than $5 billion worth of high-end residential properties.

May 22, 2024 • 35min
#240 Prav’s Solo Show — The Customer Journey
How do dental practices stand out from the competition in a fiercely competitive marketplace that’s becoming more crowded by the day?
Join Prav for an in-depth discussion of defining and leveraging your clinic’s unique selling points to design unique, memorable customer journeys and stand out from the competition.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:01:30 - TCO training—evolution and adaptation
00:09:00 - Creating unique patient journeys
00:17:25 - USP examples
00:20:30 - Leveraging USPs
00:26:15 - Consultation to closure
00:32:50 - Journey mapping and refinement
About Prav Solanki
Prav Solanki is a marketing scientist and dental growth specialist who has supported countless dental professionals and organisations to achieve stellar growth.
He is a co-owner and director of IAS Academy and founder of The Fresh, the UK’s leading dental growth and marketing agency.
His latest project, Leadflo, is described as the world’s most advanced CRM for dental clinics.

May 15, 2024 • 58min
#239 From the Archives — Pontoon Pyromania with Danny Watson
We reach way back into the archives this week with a look back at one of Payman and Prav’s favourite conversations with Green Beret-turned-dentist, Danny Watson.
Danny looks back on his first meeting with Prav, recalls how seeing military dentists at work inspired him to join the profession, and discusses burning his military bridges in hot pursuit of his newfound passion.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
0.34 - Early years
07.27 - Army days
14.59 - Discovering dentistry
21.25 - Getting started and burning bridges
26.01 - The military mindset
36.19 - Highs and lows
44.47 - Lambos & love at first sight
48.28 - On PT
53.47 - New challenges
57.08 - Last day on earth
About Danny Watson
Danny Watson graduated from Manchester University in 2018 and went on to practise at Manchester’s Kiss Dental.
Before becoming a dentist, Danny enjoyed a long and distinguished military career including service with the Green Berets and active service in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He is passionate about cross fit and personal training, and is the current world-record holder for the greatest distance travelled on the Concept-2 indoor rower in one minute.

May 10, 2024 • 1h 3min
Mind Movers #24 — Annika Patel
Specialist orthodontist Annika Patel shares her journey of being a career-focused woman in dentistry, discussing sacrifices, family, and mental resilience. Topics include ortho training challenges, marriage, motherhood, and the importance of support and camaraderie within the profession.

May 8, 2024 • 2h 14min
#238 The Professor — Avijit Banerjee
Payman chats with the world-renowned professor Avijit Banerjee, who shares his journey in academia, discussing his research focused on applying scientific findings to patient care.
As you’d expect from a polymathic mind like Prof. Banerjee's, the conversation ranges far and wide, covering challenges in dental education, the role of new technologies in diagnosis and the public's perception of fluoride.
Prof. Banerjee also wisdom on clinical judgement, patient communication, the value of documenting cases, and much more.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
00:03:45 - Academia, research and curiosity
00:10:00 - Research, commercialisation and sharing
00:18:15 - Recent studies
00:28:11 - Oral health messaging
00:31:25 - Shift towards whole patient care and holistic dentistry in education
00:33:30 - Training: past, present, UK and abroad
00:42:20 - Advice for young dentists
00:43:20 - NHS funding
00:48:10 - International teaching and research
00:55:40 - Minimally invasive dentistry
01:16:40 - New technologies
01:20:10 - Danger of undertreatment
01:23:20 - Experimentation and evidence
01:26:05 - Bureaucracy and red tape
01:28:05 - Misunderstanding and misinformation
01:34:00 - Fluoride and fissure sealants
01:44:10 - Black box thinking
01:50:25 - Teaching style
01:51:25 - Fantasy dinner party
01:58:40 - Last days and legacy
About Professor Avijit Banerjee
Professor Avijit Banerjee, a global authority in minimally invasive dentistry, leads the Cariology & Operative Dentistry research program at King's College London Faculty of Dentistry, Oral & Craniofacial Sciences.
He serves as Head of Conservative & MI Dentistry, Director of Education (UG), and Programme Director for the KCL distance-learning Masters in Advanced Minimum Intervention Dentistry.
Banerjee's research focuses on MI operative caries management and adhesive dental biomaterials, resulting in over 120 publications and £2.5 million in research funding. He collaborates with international Industry partners as an R&D KOL and is the primary author of the widely respected text, Pickard's Guide to Minimally Invasive Operative Dentistry.
Banerjee holds editorial positions in several prominent dental journals and maintains a specialist clinical practice in Restorative Dentistry, Prosthodontics & Periodontics. He currently serves as the President of the BDA Metropolitan Branch Section.

May 1, 2024 • 1h 16min
#237: Tomorrow’s World with Simon Chard
Simon Chard shares his journey through the challenges and triumphs of running a dental practice, his presidency of the BACD and thoughts on the potential of new technologies and methodologies in shaping the future of dentistry.
His passion for personal development, both for himself and his peers, shines through as he discusses the potential for dentistry to improve lives.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
02.00 - Entrepreneurial challenges
15:25 - Personal development
22:00 - Family time and personal values
29.05 - BACD presidency and future teaching ambitions
00.31.15 - Digital dentistry material science
00.33.05 - Well-being and personal development
00.49.00 - Innovation, change and dogma
01.00:00 - Relationships and personal and professional growth
01.02.05 - Future trends
01.07.40 - Black box thinking
01.10.25 - Fantasy dinner party
01.14.00 - Last Days and Legacy
About Simon Chard
Cosmetic dentist and former president of the British Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry, Simon Chard, is passionate about using digital technology to simplify cosmetic and implant dentistry. He regularly teaches digital dentistry, dental photography and minimally invasive aesthetic techniques.

Apr 26, 2024 • 1h 14min
Mind Movers #23 — Amber Rose Gill
Reality star, TV presenter, and writer Amber Rose opens up about life as Love Island contestant and winner.
Amber shares the story of how she was cast on Love Island and how subsequent attention and criticism led to what she considers her lowest point.
Amber, always true to herself, shares her current career pursuits in entertainment, writing, and brand deals, the process of writing her first novel, and seeking opportunities that better align with her authentic self.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
[00:02:05] Backstory
[00:10:25] Love Island
[00:30:00] Highs and lows
[00:36:50] Friendship
[00:39:40] ADHD
[00:50:50] Social media, societal pressures and mental health
[00:57:05] Authenticity
[01:00:20] Career and plans
[01:05:35] Reality TV
[01:08:45] Longevity
About Amber Rose Gill
Amber Rose Gill is a TV personality and author famed for winning the fifth series of Love Island. In 2022, Amber released her debut romance novel, Until I Met You.

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Apr 24, 2024 • 1h 21min
#236- The Confident Dentist — Barry Oulton
Payman chats with dental coach and communication expert Barry Oulton.
Barry shares his journey into dentistry, despite his artistic nature, and how his father influenced his career choice.
He discusses his education in the UK and the US, overcoming limiting beliefs and the challenges of running a practice.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
[00:01:10] Backstory
[00:09:05] Study
[00:11:25] Journey to practice ownership
[00:15:40] Personal life and personal development
[00:28:40] Coaching greatness
[00:33:20] Limiting beliefs
[00:42:30] Patient journey and communication
[00:51:50] Blackbox thinking
[00:55:00] Practice management
[01:07:05] NHS to private transition
[01:09:40] State of the industry
[01:15:20] Fantasy dinner party
[01:17:15] Last days and legacy
About Barry Oulton
Dr Barry Oulton is a dentist, business owner, lecturer, coach, and mentor who has worked with Henry Schein, Septodont, DMG, S4S, Biohorizons, Bupa Dental, and Colosseum on B2B sales success in dentistry.

Apr 19, 2024 • 1h 12min
Mind Movers #22 — Sarita Stefani
Rhona catches up with long-time friend Sarita Stefani, co-founder of Amelis, a platform that makes egg freezing and fertility treatments more accessible and affordable for women.
They delve into Sarita's remarkable journey as a female entrepreneur, highlighting her resilience and determination, especially during the challenging fundraising process while pregnant.
The conversation also explores the societal impact of Amelis, shedding light on the increasing popularity yet lingering stigma around egg freezing, the high costs involved, and how Amelis is championing women's health by providing transparency and education.
Enjoy!
In This Episode
[00:01:40] - Backstory
[00:04:10] - Working in finance
[00:08:25] - Gender pay gap
[00:14:15] - Female representation
[00:16:55] - Founding Amelis
[00:22:00] - Fertility—personal and social perspectives
[00:30:30] - The male fertility factor
[00:32:55] - Egg freezing and age
[00:36:20] - Personal experience
[00:37:55] - Affordability and accessibility
[00:44:05] - Fundraising and entrepreneurial journey
[00:57:05] - Plans and ambitions
[01:00:20] - Competition and popularity
[01:03:55] - The increasing popularity of egg freezing in recent years
[01:07:15] - Global Dental Collective
[01:09:00] - Dentistry and mental health
[01:11:30] - Finding Amelis online
About Sarita Stefani
Women’s Health Ultimate Role Model winner 2024, Sarita Stefani, is the CEO and founder of Amilis, which supports women through the egg-freezing process. She is also an angel investor in life sciences, healthcare and medtech.