Charlie Horn’s journey from entrepreneur to industry disruptor is a masterclass in strategic scaling. As the founder of ScriptSave, he revolutionized consumer access to prescription drug savings, transforming a simple idea into a billion-dollar business. Today, through 5Lights Group, he continues to champion emerging ventures that challenge the status quo.A core challenge in scaling any business is monetization—who pays, when do they pay, and on what basis? Charlie’s experience at ScriptSave highlights how rethinking revenue models can unlock scalability and profitability. His story is not just about growth, but about building self-sustaining business models that scale efficiently.In this episode, Charlie shares key insights on:The economic principles behind scalable businesses—why large markets and high-margin models are crucial. The evolution of his revenue model at ScriptSave—from early struggles to a breakthrough monetization strategy. How to build a company culture that prioritizes efficiency and innovation. Why companies like Amazon, Google, and Nvidia scale successfully—and what lessons smaller businesses can learn from them. Charlie’s approach will challenge the way you think about scaling your own business—from revenue strategy to sustainable growth.Let’s dive in with Charlie Horn.Thanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks, Verne Harnish of Scaling Up, and the team at Growth Institute.

Julie Copeland’s journey to becoming CEO of Arbill is one of transformation, resilience, and strategic reinvention. Founded in 1945 by her grandfather as a laundry business for industrial gloves, Arbill evolved into a leader in workplace safety solutions.Julie grew up witnessing both the challenges and opportunities of entrepreneurship, with her father navigating a difficult path and her mother charting her own creative course. After forging her own path in data warehousing, Julie joined Arbill in 1997, eventually taking the reins in 2005.Faced with a transactional business model and stiff competition, she pivoted Arbill toward a bold new vision: helping companies build world-class safety environments through innovative products, education, and consulting. She transformed a traditional low margin business into a high margin solutions company with deep, loyal client relationships. Today, Arbill partners with organizations to not only meet but exceed their safety goals, ensuring that every worker goes home safe.In this episode, Julie shares her insights on leadership, innovation, and how focusing on mission and purpose can drive both impact and growth.We’ll cover:The pivotal strategic shift that transformed Arbill’s business model How Arbill developed a structured rhythm for strategy execution Why aligning to a higher purpose is consistent with achieving higher profitsUltimately, Julie’s transformational strategy points to the power of combining three important strategic concepts: picking the right Total Addressable Market, appealing to a higher value Job to be Done, and serving customers with higher customer lifetime value. In other words, find the right number of valuable, underserved customersLet’s dive in with Julie Copeland.Thanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks, Verne Harnish of Scaling Up, and the team at Growth Institute.

Brian Scudamore, the founder and CEO of O2E Brands, shares his inspiring entrepreneurial journey from a McDonald's drive-through to building 1-800-GOT-JUNK? and more. He emphasizes his unique 'painted picture' vision process that aligns teams around shared goals. Scudamore discusses the impact of a people-first culture on business growth, showcasing how nurturing employees leads to better customer service. He also explores the challenges and triumphs of integrating multiple brands while maintaining independence, along with practical leadership habits that drive success.

Many rapidly scaled companies won through channel strategy – finding or creating a new path to customers. Consider: Dell – Sold directly to consumers, bypassing traditional retailers. Salesforce – Delivered CRM via the cloud, avoiding on-premise installations. Apple – Opened its own stores, reducing dependence on third-party retailers. Amazon – Created an online marketplace, disrupting physical retail. Netflix – Shifted from DVDs to streaming, bypassing cable providers. Tesla – Sold cars directly online, skipping traditional dealerships. Warby Parker – Sold eyewear directly online, avoiding retail optics stores. Uber – Connected drivers and riders via an app, replacing dispatch services. Your channel strategy is one of the most important sets of strategic choices you will make. It may very well determine the success or failure of your enterprise.  So, how do you pick which channel to pursue and assess what it takes to win in that channel? Well, Connie Shephard knows.  Connie Shepherd is an executive and strategist with over 35 years of experience in some of the world’s leading CPG companies, including P&G, Kellogg’s, Starbucks, Hershey, and Bumble Bee Foods. Throughout her career, she has built a proven track record of successfully opening up new channels. Her insights will help us better select which channels to serve and how to win in the channel, which as you will hear, involves building top teams across marketing, sales, strategy, and revenue management functions. She has done this across 32 consumer product categories and 21 different distribution channels. She is known for her strategic acumen, able to quickly assess and translate business needs into the pivotal choices that lead to sustainable growth. Most recently as SVP of Strategy and Commercialization for Bumble Bee Seafoods, she was responsible for managing a $1.02 billion P&L. In three years, the company achieved over $18 million EBITDA growth year over year. In this episode, gain insights from several of her success stories: How Connie led a complete overhaul at Bumble Bee Foods, focusing on strategy, structure, and talent. How she brought the Starbucks store experience to retail with innovations like the "signature aisle." Turning Kellogg's smallest region into a growth driver by breaking down barriers and leading teams. Testing new channels through rapid test-and-learn experiments at P&G. Transforming Hershey’s approach by changing key performance metrics to drive better results. Ladies and Gentlemen, Connie Shepherd.  Thanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks, Verne Harnish of Scaling Up, and the team at Growth Institute.

In 1978, Neil Balter was a 17-year-old carpenter with a knack for building things, but what he would end up building was an entirely new industry. As the founder of California Closets, Neil transformed the way we think about organizing spaces, pioneering an industry that didn’t even exist when he started. But while his story begins with some shelves in a neighbor’s closet, what truly set him apart was how he grew the business. Neil made a pivotal strategic decision early on: shifting from advertising to public relations to reduce customer acquisition costs. This decision wasn’t just a money-saving move; it became the driving force behind the company’s rapid growth. By focusing on PR, Neil got his business featured in the Wall Street Journal, talk shows, and even Oprah, catapulting California Closets into the mainstream with a fraction of the cost of traditional marketing. We see this pattern over and over again. A company that outscales the competition makes an uncommon promotion choice that results in a lower customer acquisition cost than the industry. It costs them less to get a new customer. And with each new customer, their lead compounds. You will see this principle at the core of the success for Netflix, Telegram, Amazon, and others.  Now, this is not the only smart strategic choice Neil makes. In today’s conversation, we dive into how Neil identified what his brand stood for—quality and knowledge—and how he consistently delivered on that promise. It’s a lesson every entrepreneur should take to heart: knowing what your brand uniquely excels at and finding cost-effective ways to bring that value to your customers. Neil will also share how franchising allowed California Closets to scale rapidly, making closet organization a household concept worldwide. Whether you’re thinking about how to reduce your own customer acquisition costs, or what your brand’s promise really is, there’s plenty to learn from his journey. Today, we cover: How Neil recognized a common problem (lack of closet space) and turned it into a business that solved a universal issue. Why franchising was the key to scaling California Closets, and how Neil structured the business for growth. How a chance encounter with a Wall Street Journal reporter transformed their go-to-market strategy from advertising to PR. The brand's promise, earning customers’ trust, from design to installation. Lessons on linking customer acquisition costs to customer lifetime value Ladies and gentlemen, Neil Balter. Thanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks, Verne Harnish of Scaling Up, and the team at Growth Institute.

Naomi Simson is a corporate marketer and the founder of RedBalloon, an online powerhouse – the largest experience network in Australia and New Zealand. Think Amazon or Etsy or Alibaba but not just for physical things, rather for experiences. She was also a judge on the Australian version of Shark Tank and is the author of Live What You Love: When Passion And Purpose Change Your Life. Her insights offer a masterclass in branding, strategy, and business building. She left a highly successful corporate career, because she saw an opportunity that few saw at the time. Driven by a desire to create a business with purpose, she transformed a simple idea—gifting experiences—into one of Australia’s most recognized online brands. Starting with limited resources and a big vision, she pioneered the experience economy, building trust in a nascent internet age and reshaping the online retail sector in the region.  In this episode, Naomi shares the keys to building powerful brands, staying in sync with customers, and managing culture so you can keep your company relevant in an ever-evolving market. In this episode, we cover: How we should really be thinking about branding, as in what IS a brand? Her answer may surprise you, and it could change how you think about your brand architecture. It certainly did for me and for every business builder I’ve spoken about it since Why one of the most important metrics that will determine the speed at which you scale is … customer acquisition cost How brand equity is the key to reducing that customer acquisition cost Why it’s important to understand what “job” your customers are “renting” your product or service to get done and specifically tips you can follow to make sure you are constantly in touch with what they want  Let’s dive in with Naomi Simson. Thanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks, Verne Harnish of Scaling Up, and the team at Growth Institute.

Australian businessman and the visionary founder of Chemist Warehouse, Jack Gance began his career as a pharmacist with a single store in 1972, but his innovative approach and strategic acumen quickly led to the creation of a pharmacy distribution empire. He is known for creating the Le Specs, Le Tan, Australis, and Colours of Australia brands of sunglasses, sunscreen, fragrances, and cosmetics, which he sold in 1991. He completed his MBA at Monash University and NYU Stern School of Business and returned to revolutionize the pharmacy industry with the My Chemist chain. From there, he went on to found Chemist Warehouse, now a multibillion-dollar powerhouse. Jack brings a natural strategic mind to the puzzle of scaling a business. Thanks to a sequence of smart strategic choices, Chemist Warehouse, under his leadership, has grown to encompass around 600 stores, generating approximately $7.9 billion in total sales annually. He was recently named EY Entrepreneur of the Year for Australia and has also received the Retail Innovator Award and the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Australian Retail Association.  In the episode, we dig into Jack’s strategic decisions with the goal of capturing some key strategic concepts we can all apply to scale whatever we are building with greater speed, easy, and success rate. We will cover: Why he doesn’t write a business plan The trick not trying to predict the future but, instead, limiting the downsideThe benefit of looking for what your competitors are ignoring … or are avoidingWhy you need to underperform on some things, make tough choices, and overperform in other areas Why you shouldn't focus just on customers at the detriment of suppliers How to align culture to strategy Why business school didn’t really teach him new things as much as validated what he learned as an entrepreneur The benefit of taking action on idea to prove it, rather than seeking to prove it to take actionThanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks, Verne Harnish of Scaling Up, and the team at Growth Institute.