

Not Even Mad
Peach Fish Productions
Approaching the news from distinctly different points on the political spectrum, host Mike Pesca, and panelists Liz Wolfe and Michael A. Cohen, attempt to change each other’s minds on the most important stories of the day. Often unsuccessfully. Between the non-stop election cycle and torrents of cancellations (real or imagined), there is a ton to argue about. But don’t worry. In the end, they’re NOT EVEN MAD.
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Feb 6, 2025 • 59min
EP 13 | Trump’s Overreach & the Democrats’ Lack of Reach
Katie Herzog, co-host of 'Blocked and Reported,' brings her sharp political commentary and insights on sobriety, while Jonah Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Dispatch, delivers his expert analysis on current issues. They dive into Trump’s controversial remarks linking a tragic plane crash to DEI policies, questioning the political ramifications. The duo also critiques the Democrats’ branding struggles, explores challenges in urban governance like homelessness, and discusses the impact of halting aid programs on communities, all with spirited debate and humor.

Jan 23, 2025 • 1h 5min
EP 12 | Trump's First Four Days
Michael A. Cohen, a political columnist and fellow at the Center for Strategic Studies, joins Matt Welch, Editor-at-large for Reason magazine, to dissect the whirlwind first days of Trump's second term. They dig into his controversial executive orders on immigration and civil rights, raising alarms about accountability after political pardons. The discussion also highlights the societal impacts of Trump's policies and offers a humorous take on cultural quirks, mixing insightful analysis with lighthearted banter.

Dec 6, 2024 • 51min
EP 11 | Hiatus Over! The Pardon Of Hunter Biden
We reconstitute Not Even Mad with panelists Liz Wolfe (Reason and the Just Asking Questions podcast) and Michael A. Cohen (MSNBC columnist and author of the Truth and Consequences newsletter) to discuss and debate the pardon of Hunter Biden and all the many, many explanations for the Democrats poor showing on election day 2024. Plus, goats are grinded over Standard Time, "Increasingly," and Pamela Anderson with or without makeup. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist: https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g Follow Mikes Substack at: Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Feb 17, 2023 • 28min
EP 10 | Hiatus? They Didn’t Even Get To Know Us
On the final episode of Not Even Mad (well, at least for now), hosts Mike Pesca, David French, and Lara Bazelon discuss the idea the show was founded on, and then Mike signs off. Produced by Joel Patterson Theme by Max Kerman Content design by Big Yellow Taxi Michelle Pesca is COO of Peach Fish Projects Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 21, 2022 • 58min
EP 09 | Puppy Play Purloiner, Jan 6 Criminal Referrals, Republican Deadliness
Today on Not Even Mad, hosts Mike Pesca, Jamie Kirchick, and Dan Savage discuss the January 6th committee's criminal referrals, two new studies that correlate Republican policies and politicians with higher mortality, and debate the case of Samuel Brinton the self-proclaimed first openly genderfluid federal government employee, who was arrested for stealing luggage from two different airports. Let us know what you think about this the first 9 episodes of Not Even Mad as we plan out 2023 season: notevenmad@peachfishprojects.com Produced by Ian Scotto Theme by Max Kerman Content design by Big Yellow Taxi Michelle Pesca is COO of Peach Fish Projects Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 14, 2022 • 52min
EP 08 | Senator Sinema’s Democratic Party Defection, Merchant of Death for Brittney Griner swap, and Twitter Moderation: Futility vs. Utility
EP 08 Senator Sinema’s Democratic Party Defection, Merchant of Death for Brittney Griner swap, and Twitter Moderation: Futility vs. UtilityToday on Not Even Mad, hosts Mike Pesca, Jamie Kirchick, and Sarada Peri discuss Arizona Senator Krysten Sinema's switch to Independent, the prisoner swap that gave Russia back a notorious arms dealer, and what new batches of "The Twitter Files" say about the impossibility of satisfactory content moderation. Let us know what you think about this epiosde, and tell us what topics you’d like to hear discussed: notevenmad@peachfishprojects.com Produced by Ian Scotto Theme by Max Kerman Content design by Big Yellow Taxi Michelle Pesca is COO of Peach Fish Projects Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 7, 2022 • 53min
EP 07 | Oath Keeper Conviction, Christian Web Designer disinclinations, and Laptop non-revelations
Today on Not Even Mad, hosts Mike Pesca, David French, and Lara Bazelon discuss the speech and discrimination implications of 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis; the not-terribly-difficult task of getting a seditious conspiracy conviction, and ask if Matt Taibbi could wring any more recriminations over coverage of Hunter Biden's Laptop. Let us know what you think about the podcast, and tell us what topics you’d like to hear discussed: notevenmad@peachfishprojects.com Produced by Ian Scotto Theme by Max Kerman Content design by Big Yellow Taxi Michelle Pesca is COO of Peach Fish Projects Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 30, 2022 • 52min
EP 06 | Mass Shooting Motivations, Biden 2024, and Cancel Court: James Webb Space Telescope
Today on Not Even Mad, hosts Mike Pesca, Virginia Heffernan, and Jamie Kirchick discuss narratives around mass shootings, the likelihood of Joe Biden’s 2024 bid, and the man with a space telescope named after him goes to Cancel Court. Let us know what you think about the podcast, and tell us what you'd like to hear Mike, Virginia, and Jamie debate: notevenmad@peachfishprojects.com. Produced by Joel Patterson Theme by Max Kerman Content design by Big Yellow Taxi Michelle Pesca COO of Peach Fish Projects Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 23, 2022 • 53min
EP 05 | SBF’s Woke-Washing, Red Card For Qatar, and Cancel Court: Leana Wen
Today on Not Even Mad, hosts Mike Pesca, Virginia Heffernan, and Jamie Kirchick ponder the idea that woke Democrats may have enabled SBF’s fraud crypto exchange, analyze the decision to participate in Qatar’s World Cup, and then don the robes of the Cancel Court to debate the cancellation of former public health official Leana Wen for her Covid-19 stance. Let us know what you think about the podcast, and tell us what you'd like to hear Mike, Virginia, and Jamie debate: notevenmad@peachfishprojects.com. Produced by Joel Patterson Theme by Max Kerman Content design by Big Yellow Taxi Michelle Pesca is COO of Peach Fish Projects Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 16, 2022 • 51min
EP 04 | Trump 2024, Campaigning Against Wokeness, and White Lotus Politics
Hosts discuss Trump's potential run for president again in 2024 and the impact on the Republican party. They explore fears and concerns of parents about school curricula. They also touch on actors playing characters of different ethnicities and Gen Z sexuality. Additionally, they express disappointment with the Grammy nominees and discuss a controversial promotion by Kentucky Fried Chicken.