

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism
Slate Podcasts
Each week a pair of writers and guests talk through one news story we can’t stop thinking about, and unpack what gender has to do with it.
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Jun 2, 2022 • 34min
Abortion on the Ballot
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth is joined by Slate senior writer Mark Joseph Stern to talk about Michigan’s ballot initiative to save abortion rights in the state. They dig into the positives and negatives of going to the ballot, what we can learn from Ireland, and why, at the end of the day, you really need the courts. Mark also explains the one big thing that citizens can and should be doing to help secure abortion access. In Slate Plus, is Ginny Thomas maintaining a career that directly conflicts with her Supreme Court Justice husband’s work feminist? Mentioned in the Show:“The Ironic, Unintended Consequence of SCOTUS’s Plan to Overturn Roe” by Mark Joseph SternRecommendations:Mark: The album Two Ribbons by Let’s Eat GrandmaCheyna: Everything by the band HAIM. Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and Alicia Montgomery . Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 26, 2022 • 28min
Protecting Abortion Is Vital For The Economy
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate senior editor for Jurisprudence Nicole Lewis is joined by Slate Money co-host, and correspondent for Axios, Emily Peck to talk about the economic implications of overturning Roe v. Wade. A leaked Supreme Court draft opinion shows the court has the votes to abolish the constitutional right to abortion, which Roe established in 1973. Our hosts dig into all the ways ending abortion will undermine women’s economic gains and participation in the workforce, including gains that conservatives champion - like low rates of teenage motherhood, stable homes and being able to work and provide for yourself. And finally, they look at how eliminating the right to an abortion would disproportionately impact poor women and women of color. Mentioned in the Episode:“Overturning Roe Could Reverse Economic Gains” by Emily Peck“The Horrifying Implications of Alito’s Most Alarming Footnote” by Dahlia Lithwick National Network of Abortion FundsIn Slate Plus: Are Brazillian Butt Lifts feminist? Recommendations:Nicole: The Netflix series Bonding.Emily: All kinds of gummy candy, from bears to sour worms. Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and Alicia Montgomery. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 19, 2022 • 30min
What Reality TV Says About Us
On this week’s episode of The Waves, historian and original Waves host, Marcia Chatelain is joined by sociologist Danielle Lindemann to talk all things reality TV. They discuss Danielle’s new book, True Story: What Reality TV Says About Us and why we don’t take reality television as seriously as we should. Later in the show they talk about why women are more successful at monetizing their reality TV brand and how the genre takes us on a tour of the class system. In Slate Plus: Is The Bachelorette feminist? Recommendations:Marcia: The True Crime Obsessed podcast, Let the Women Do the WorkDanielle: The Netflix series Selling Sunset Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and Alicia Montgomery. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 12, 2022 • 27min
How the Fall of Bitch Media is a Sign of Disastrous Things to Come.
On this week’s episode of The Waves, we’re reflecting on the impact of Bitch Media, which started as a zine in the 90s, and grew into a print publication and website . Slate staff writer Heather Schwedel is joined by Bitch co-founder Andi Zeisler to talk about the history of Bitch. Then, they explore why feminist media is struggling, despite maybe being more necessary than ever. In Slate Plus: Is asking if things are feminist, feminist?Recommendations: Heather: Ghosts by Dolly AldertonAndi: Time Zone J by Julie DoucetMentioned in the Show: “Bitch and the End of Independent Feminist Media” by Jude Ellison S. Doyle Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and Alicia Montgomery.Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.comThanks Avast.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 5, 2022 • 53min
What Amber Heard’s Make-up Palette Says About the Legal System. (Plus: Roe v Wade)
On this week’s episode of The Waves, we start with a conversation with upcoming Slow Burn: Roe v Wade host, Susan Matthews and Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth about the implications of the recently leaked Supreme Court opinion overturning Roe. In the main show, we shift focus to gender violence as the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial continues. Cheyna sits down with Dr. Nicole Bedera about what happens when fans try to play detective and how we should actually be talking to victims of violence. Later in the show they talk about Men’s Rights Activists and the broader implications of suing people who accuse someone of assault. In Slate Plus, is Mother’s Day feminist? Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and Alicia Montgomery.Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 28, 2022 • 41min
Edible Arrangements Is Getting Into the Wellness Industry
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate senior writer, Christina Cauterucci and Slate science editor Shannon Palus, talk pineapples on sticks. Christina’s new piece, “What’s Eating Edible Arrangements” on the changes at Edible Arrangements sparked a conversation about gender roles that likely led to the success of the company that now goes by Edible. Then they unpack the company’s pivot to CBD and what its attempt at “wellness culture” really means. In Slate Plus, are workout selfies feminist?Recommendations:Shannon: Harry & David fruit boxes.Christina: Season 2 of HBO’s The Flight Attendant. Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and Alicia Montgomery.Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 21, 2022 • 38min
Ecofeminism Isn’t Just For Hippies
On this week’s episode of The Waves, senior producer Cheyna Roth is joined by freelance science writer Eleanor Cummins to talk about the possible resurgence of Ecofeminism. Eleanor recently published “Is Ecofeminism Due for a Comeback?” in The New Republic. They discuss how the term came to be “passe,” what places are embracing the concept of combining feminism and the environment (and trying to save the Amazon in the process), and why the time is right for feminists to embrace the planet. In Slate Plus, the waves of Ecofeminism, and where the term “tree-hugger” came from. Recommendations:Cheyna: Anxious People by Fredrik Backman Eleanor: Disorientation by Elaine Hsieh Chou Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and Alicia Montgomery.Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 14, 2022 • 40min
The Vagina Et. Al.
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate senior editor Shannon Palus is joined by science journalist, Rachel E. Gross to talk all about female anatomy. They discuss Rachel’s new book, Vagina Obscura: An Anatomical Voyage and how much science has to learn when it comes to diagnosing female maladies. Then they get into ovaries and all the misconceptions about these “egg baskets.”In Slate Plus, is the term “pussy” feminist? Articles discussed in this episode: The Word for Anatomy That Shouldn’t Be “Vulgar” by Zoe Mendelson Seventeen Years of Bad Sex by Allyson Rudolph Ovaries Are Prone to ‘Exhaustion’ and ‘Fatigue.’ Or Are They? By Rachel GrossRecommendations:Shannon: Wearing wide-legged jeans. Rachel: Showing yourself some, ah-hem, love. Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and Alicia Montgomery. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 7, 2022 • 37min
Prepping for Doomsday, Feminist Edition.
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate staff writers Rebecca Onion and Lili Loofbourow are talking about the prepper community. Is it all toxic masculinity? Is there already a space for women in the community, or do they have to carve their own space? They dig into Lili’s piece on the schism in the prepper reddit community and explore the gender dynamics of a culture that ranges from coupon clipping to hoarding guns. They also discuss Rebecca Onion’s 2016 piece on what prepper fiction reveals about American virtues. In Slate Plus: Martha Stewart was in the news for an Instagram post about her dead cat. Is her empire feminist? Recommendations:Rebecca: The PBS series Sanditon.Lili: Wearing men’s sweatpants. Thanks Avast.com!Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus.Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 31, 2022 • 44min
Romance Novels Are For Everyone
On this week’s episode of The Waves, the co-host of Slate’s internet culture podcast ICYMI, Rachelle Hampton sits down with Slate associate editor and romance author, Marissa Martinelli to talk about romance novels and, of course, the television show Bridgerton. In the first half, they dig into the longstanding race and gender politics at play within the romance writing community and gatekeeping, why we need more Short Kings and Fat Women in romance, and of course…Fabio. Then they get into the Netflix phenomenon, Bridgerton and talk about the problematic dynamics the show didn’t sort out when it “solved” racism, why making Daphne pretty ruined season one for Rachelle, and how season two kinda, sorta, almost cured some of the problems of season one. In Slate Plus, are corsets feminist? Recommendations:Marissa: The romance novel book club podcast, Hot and Bothered. Rachelle: Season one of Netflix’s Virgin River. Further Reading:Dangerous Books for Girls by Maya Rodale“Inside the List” by Gregory Cowels “How Bridgerton Touches on Colonialism in India” by Desiree Ibekwe“The Biggest Changes Between Bridgerton Season 2, and The Steamy, Ridiculous Book It’s Based On” by Marissa Martinelli “Under the Covers” by Anne Wallentine “One Romance Novelist’s Fight for Diverse Love Stories” by Rachelle Hampton Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and June Thomas. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices