Need To Know with Coulthart and Zabel

Bryce Zabel
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Jul 22, 2025 • 60min

Encounters - (Project Book Club)

Bryce Zabel and Chrissy Newton dive deep into the metaphysical dimensions of non-human intelligence as they explore the thought-provoking book Encounters. They discuss the intriguing blend of technology, belief, and altered states of consciousness. The conversation highlights captivating characters ranging from scientists to experiencers and delves into the secrecy and disinformation surrounding UFO phenomena. Reflecting on the interconnectedness of consciousness, they encourage listeners to rethink perceptions of evidence and contact in the world of UAP research.
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Jul 14, 2025 • 1h 22min

Need To Know SCIF - The Tic Tac

In this special Need to Know SCIF debut episode, award-winning journalist and series co-creator Bryce Zabel hosts a powerful roundtable with three leading voices in the UAP community: Jason Guillemette (UAP Studies Podcast), Ryan Robbins (Post Disclosure World), and Need to Know producer Tyler Stevens. Together, they unpack the explosive claims made by Ross Coulthart in the most recent episode of Need to Know — particularly the suggestion that the now-infamous Tic Tac UFO witnessed by Navy pilots off the coast of San Diego may not be extraterrestrial at all, but instead a product of secretive human engineering, possibly tied to Lockheed Martin. The conversation revisits the background of the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter, where highly trained U.S. military personnel observed a Tic Tac-shaped object performing maneuvers that defied known physics. The panel discusses the implications of these objects being operated with electrogravitic propulsion systems — a form of advanced, possibly suppressed technology — and how such capabilities could be hidden under the guise of “drone impunity,” allowing classified programs to operate in plain sight. The discussion explores the deeper tension between the public’s demand for disclosure and the government’s history of obfuscation, raising questions about who truly controls this technology and whether the narrative is being manipulated. With each guest bringing a unique perspective — from podcast journalism to deep research and production — this episode offers one of the most direct, critical conversations yet on the true nature of the Tic Tac and the battle over UAP transparency.
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Jul 7, 2025 • 1h 8min

Whose Tech Is It?

In this powerful episode of Need to Know, Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel regroup following their in-person appearance at Contact in the Desert, where they spoke to a packed audience and connected with key voices in the UFO/UAP field. The conversation kicks off with a major revelation from Ross about the 2004 Tic Tac incident—one of the most pivotal cases in modern UFO history. Ross lays out new details suggesting that the full extent of the encounter has not been disclosed to the public. Drawing on high-level sources and investigative leads, he presents a serious claim that the event was not just a singular anomaly but part of a broader pattern involving international military activity and the concealment of advanced technologies potentially linked to China. The episode dives deep into the challenges of breaking significant stories in today’s media landscape, the resistance faced by whistleblowers, and the careful verification process that underpins responsible journalism. With 60 Minutes preparing to revisit the UAP topic, Bryce and Ross discuss the shifting tone in mainstream media and how the public is becoming more engaged, but also more skeptical. This episode stands out not only for its compelling content but for the credibility of its hosts, who bring a blend of journalistic rigor, historical insight, and first-hand experience to one of the most pressing issues of our time.
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Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 8min

Imminent - (Project Book Club)

In this episode, Bryce Zabel and Chrissy Newton take a deep dive into Imminent, the highly anticipated memoir by Lue Elizondo. From his unusual upbringing and military background to his insider perspective on AATIP and UAP disclosure, the book covers a wide range of bold and fascinating topics. The hosts discuss Elizondo’s revelations about crash retrievals, biologics, Roswell, and the secretive Interloper program, while also exploring his focus on consciousness, national security, and the challenges of pushing this conversation forward. They reflect on the book’s tone, structure, and impact, acknowledging both its strengths and the questions it raises. Bryce and Chrissy offer thoughtful commentary on the balance between personal storytelling and hard evidence, and why Imminent feels like a pivotal entry in the growing library of serious UAP literature. Whether you’re a longtime follower of Elizondo’s journey or just getting started, this conversation brings both insight and appreciation to one of the most talked-about books in the field.
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Jun 8, 2025 • 1h 22min

Live From CITD

In this special live edition of Need to Know, recorded at Contact in the Desert, Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel sit down in front of a packed audience to reflect on their personal origin stories with the UFO/UAP mystery. From Ross’s early investigative journalism to Bryce’s work in Hollywood and exposure to firsthand testimony, both share the compelling “aha” moments that pulled them deeper into the phenomenon. The conversation dives into some of the most significant cases that continue to shape their perspectives, including historical sightings, government secrecy, and the whistleblowers who have risked everything to speak out. It’s a revealing and thoughtful dialogue that offers fans a deeper understanding of what drives their work. The episode also opens up to the audience with a live Q&A session, where Ross and Bryce respond to insightful and sometimes provocative questions from attendees. Their answers shed light on the current state of disclosure, the role of journalism and entertainment in shaping public understanding, and how the broader community can contribute to pushing the conversation forward. With honest reflection, humor, and a sense of urgency, this episode captures the spirit of the conference and reminds us why staying curious and informed is more important than ever. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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May 27, 2025 • 1h 12min

The Believer - (Project Book Club)

Welcome to the first episode of Project Book Club, where hosts Bryce Zabel and Chrissy Newton launch a fresh kind of conversation around the books that shape the UFO and consciousness landscape. This isn’t your typical late-night podcast. It’s a morning-show-style book club made for readers who want to explore the unknown with a hot drink in hand and curiosity on full blast. In this episode, Bryce and Chrissy dive into The Believer by Ralph Blumenthal, the biography of Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John Mack. Mack rose to prominence for his Pulitzer Prize-winning work, but his legacy shifted dramatically when he began studying alien abduction phenomena. Bryce and Chrissy unpack the book’s layered portrait of Mack, exploring his courage, contradictions, and the firestorm he faced from Harvard when he chose to publicly validate the experiences of abductees. The discussion touches on the emotional depth of Mack’s journey, including his personal flaws, academic brilliance, and the spiritual and philosophical questions that guided his work. They examine how Mack challenged the limits of Western scientific thought, his interest in consciousness, and how his openness to Eastern philosophies influenced both his worldview and research methods. Bryce and Chrissy also reflect on some of the major events in Mack’s life, like his involvement in the Ariel School incident in Zimbabwe, and his controversial interviews on national television. They take time to discuss his critics, his supporters, and the legacy he left behind when he died unexpectedly in 2004. Through thoughtful insights and a bit of morning humor, this episode sets the stage for what Project Book Club is all about: digging deep into powerful stories, asking big questions, and creating a community where readers can explore the unknown together. ProjectBookClub.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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May 10, 2025 • 1h 8min

Immaculate Revelations

In this revealing episode, Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel tackle a wave of breaking developments in the UFO/UAP landscape. They begin with the extraordinary final testimony of Dr. Harold Malmgren, a former U.S. official who, shortly before his death, disclosed direct knowledge of downed non-human craft, recovered biologics, and the controversial existence of Majestic 12. The hosts analyze his statement’s implications, exploring how nuclear technology may have been used to down UFOs and the possibility that world powers are actively racing to reverse-engineer this non-human technology. They also break down the recent public appearance of Matthew Brown, the anonymous source behind the Immaculate Constellation document, featured on Weaponized. Ross and Bryce weigh the credibility of his claims, the alleged black triangle over a Russian vessel, and whether aerospace contractors and private corporations have become the modern-day vaults for UFO secrets. With growing international interest in non-human intelligence, the episode also explores the broader landscape of secrecy, disclosure, and media manipulation. Ross provides fresh intel about ongoing investigations and how other nations are now taking steps toward greater transparency. They also reflect on the role of pop culture, censorship on Wikipedia, and how history is being actively written—or erased—before our eyes. The episode ends with a light preview of their upcoming appearance at Contact in the Desert and a humorous yet insightful short video from Will, capturing how everyday conversations around UFOs are changing in living rooms across the country. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 4min

Watch the Skies

In this wide-ranging episode of Need to Know, Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel explore some of the most urgent and complex developments in the UAP world, politics, and history. They begin with a take on the recent Signal security scandal in the U.S. government, comparing it to their own use of encrypted messaging. This segues into a deep dive on the continuing UAP drone saga over U.S. airspace. Ross goes so far as to say these objects are likely anomalous and potentially connected to non-human intelligence. They express frustration over official government explanations that no longer hold up and a media landscape that fails to ask the right questions. The duo also covers the growing importance of independent projects like Skywatcher, which claims to have repeatedly summoned and filmed UAPs, including jellyfish-like aerial entities, with advanced equipment. They highlight the risk of foreign powers like Russia or China beating the U.S. to disclosure and discuss the lack of action from the new presidential administration despite previous promises. Other key topics include David Grusch joining Congress, the failure of government institutions to act transparently, and the newly released JFK documents, where Ross shares jaw-dropping claims about potential links between JFK and a secret UAP retrieval operation. They close by emphasizing the need for real evidence and discernment in the age of misinformation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Mar 10, 2025 • 52min

Gimme Some Truth

In this episode of Need to Know, Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel discuss the latest developments in the UAP conversation, particularly the lack of action from the new U.S. administration despite previous campaign promises. They highlight the role of key figures like John Ratcliffe, the new CIA director, and Marco Rubio, the new Secretary of State, both of whom have previously acknowledged the reality of unexplained aerial phenomena. The conversation also delves into Elon Musk’s recent claims that he would know about secret UAP programs if they existed—claims that Ross and Bryce find naive, given the compartmentalized nature of classified government projects. The episode also explores the broader implications of disclosure, touching on government secrecy, potential geopolitical ramifications, and the upcoming documentary The Age of Disclosure, which promises to feature high-level insiders speaking out about UAPs. Additionally, the hosts discuss Richard Dolan’s new book on USOs (Unidentified Submerged Objects) and the historical significance of cases like Kecksburg and the Betty and Barney Hill abduction. The ongoing mystery of military drone incursions and their potential ties to UAP phenomena is another major talking point, with Ross expressing frustration over media and government responses. They close by considering the possibility that foreign powers like Russia or China might take the lead on disclosure, potentially forcing the U.S. to respond. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Mar 3, 2025 • 1h 9min

Roswell Revealed - (N2K Extra)

In this episode of Need to Know: Extra, Bryce Zabel dives deep into the enduring mystery of Roswell, emphasizing its significance in the broader UAP discussion. He explores recent congressional interest in crash wreckage, particularly Rep. Ana Paulina Luna's investigative efforts and Ross Coulthart's reporting on Jake Barber’s claims regarding helicopter retrieval of crash materials. The discussion revisits the historical context of Roswell, highlighting how it became marginalized despite continued revelations from key figures like Lue Elizondo and David Grusch, who both reaffirm that it was, in fact, a crash event involving non-human biological samples. Bryce is joined by Roswell researcher Don Schmitt, who provides an in-depth look at the case, recounting decades of investigation and first-hand witness testimonies. The conversation explores how the U.S. government has repeatedly changed its explanation for Roswell, from flying saucer claims to weather balloons, Project Mogul, and crash test dummies. They discuss the challenges of proving the case today, the missing Roswell files, and the extreme lengths taken to suppress witness accounts. Schmitt emphasizes the significance of deathbed confessions and ongoing efforts to uncover physical wreckage, believing that Roswell remains the key to unraveling the UFO mystery once and for all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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