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Epicenter brings you in-depth conversations about the technical, economic and social implications of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technologies. Every week, we interview business leaders, engineers academics and entrepreneurs, and bring you a diverse spectrum of opinions and points of view.
Epicenter is hosted by Sebastien Couture, Brian Fabian Crain, Friederike Ernst, Meher Roy and Felix Lutsch. Since 2014, our episodes have been downloaded over 8 million times.
Epicenter is hosted by Sebastien Couture, Brian Fabian Crain, Friederike Ernst, Meher Roy and Felix Lutsch. Since 2014, our episodes have been downloaded over 8 million times.
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Aug 27, 2019 • 1h 40min
Anthony Sassano & Eric Conner: EthHub – Ethereum Education and the Quest for Ether Dominance
We’re joined by Eric Conner and Anthony Sassano, founders of EthHub. Started in January of 2019, EthHub’s goal is to provide a trusted, objective source of information for the Ethereum ecosystem. The platform is made up of an open-source documentation website, a weekly newsletter, and a podcast, “Into the Ether” hosted by Eric and Anthony. Both active and vocal members of the Ethereum community, they are known to embody what some consider to be Ethereum Maximalism.
Topics covered in this episode:
What is EthHub and why they decided to start the organization
Eric and Anthony’s view on the current state of the Ethereum community
The different cliques, factions, and sub-groups in Ethereum
The role of the Foundation and Vitalik Buterin as they see it
A close look into project funding in Ethereum and the emergence of DAOs for funding
Reflections on Anthony’s “Why Ether is Valuable” piece
The state of Ethereum 2.0 research and the different parties involved
Their views on where the crypto space is heading in the next 5 years
Episode links:
EthHub website
Into the Ether podcast
EthHub Newsletter
Why Ether is Valuable
Is Ether needed for transaction fees?
Ethereum Project Funding
EthHub on Twitter
Anthony Sassano on Twitter
Eric Conner on Twitter
Epicenter Meetup at TelAviv Blockchain Week – Monday September 16th
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This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Sunny Aggarwal. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/302

Aug 20, 2019 • 1h 8min
Dan Shin: Terra – The Stable Currency Tackling the Ecommerce Payments Market
This week we're joined by Daniel Shin. He is the Co-Founder of Terra Money and previous CEO and Co-Founder of TMON, one of Korea's largest players e-commerce platforms. Today he talks about his success in that area and how that drove him to enter the cryptocurrency and blockchain space with this new project.
Daniel was lead to blockchain when looking for a solution to reduce transaction fees paid by online merchants. Not satisfied with just using an existing stable coin, he set about to make his own, which is how Terra was born.
Topics covered in this episode:
Daniel's background with TMON and his need to explore new transaction cost-cutting ideas
How Daniel discovered that cryptocurrencies may help reduce intermediaries in the payment space
Terra's impressive partnerships with some of Korea's largest e-commerce players
The stability mechanism and the role of the Luna token
The role of miners in Terra and the currency's seigniorage model
Comparisons to other stablecoins like Maker DAI and Libra
The contingency plans in the event of a catastrophic plummet in demand
How Cosmos formed the basis on which Terra was built
Terra's business model and product roadmap
Episode links:
Terra on GitHub
Terra white paper
Introducing the new Terra Protocol
Use Cases for Decentralized Money (Stablecoin)
Scaling Seigniorage
Terra Research Forum
Terra Twitter
TMON
Sponsors:
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This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/301

Aug 13, 2019 • 1h 19min
Erik Voorhees: ShapeShift – There's a New Fox in Town
We’re joined by Erik Voorhees, Founder & CEO of Shapeshift. His third appearance on the podcast is timed nicely as July marked ShapeShift’s fifth anniversary. From its early days as the “Google Translate for cryptocurrencies”, it has grown into an organization of 75 people, and Erik talks about the learning curves he has endured on his journey. Our conversation also coincides with the launch of ShapeShift’s brand new V2 platform, which includes a self-custodial asset management dashboard, hardware wallet support, and many other new features. One notable change is that ShapeShift now requires users to create an account and perform KYC, something which very much pains Erik. We also discuss Bitcoin, Libra, and the future of money, topics which are always fascinating to approach from Erik’s Libertarian viewpoint.
Topics covered in this episode:
ShapeShift celebrating its 5th anniversary the lessons learned since launch
What is ShapeShift 2.0 and the problems addressed by this product
ShapeShift's new features and what people can expect to come in the future
Why users now have to register and perform KYC
What is the FOX token and what is it's utility
ShapeShift's business model and target segment
Why the company chose to shut down Prism
Erik's views on the Bitcoin and Ethereum ecosystems today
Speculations about Libra and the future of money
Episode links:
ShapeShift
ShapeShift on GitHub
Building a Bridge to Financial Sovereignty (ShapeShift 2.0 announcement)
Erik's tweetstorm on Libra
KeepKey Release Notes
ShapeShift Twitter
Erik Voorhees Twitter
Sponsors:
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This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/300

Aug 6, 2019 • 1h 8min
Igor Barinov: POA Network – Enabling Scaling Through Trust in Public Notaries
We're joined by Igor Barinov, the tech lead of the POA Network. The POA Network achieves a reduction in transaction costs by many orders of magnitude by having a set of trusted validators. All validators must be US public notaries, so their identities are known and legal recourse against them can be taken in the offchain world. We also talk about the xDai network, which enables Dai transactions on a POA chain: Dai are transferred into a smart contract on the mainnet and then become available to be transferred at much lower cost on the POA Network. Similarly, they can be transferred out of the xDai network and become available again on the mainchain. We talk about use cases, governance, and limitations.
Topics covered in this episode:
Igor's background and how he got into blockchain
The POA network setup and how to become a validator
What informs design decisions and how to find suitable notaries
The consensus mechanism on the POA Network
The role of the POA token
The xDai network and its purpose
The role of the DPOS token
Use cases of POA and xDai Networks
Episode links:
POA Network website
POA products overview
xDAI Chain
POSDAO White paper
Ocean Protocol releases own POA network
Beginners guide: What's the POA network
Sponsors:
StarkWare Sessions: September 16th in Tel Aviv – 20% off with the code EPICENTER - https://epicenter.rocks/starkware
Trail of Bits: Trust the team at the forefront of blockchain security research - https://trailofbits.com
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This episode is hosted by Meher Roy & Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/299

Jul 30, 2019 • 1h 26min
Rune Christensen: Maker DAO – The Central Bank of Web 3.0
We're joined by Rune Christensen, CEO and Co-Founder of MakerDAO. We discuss the rise of Maker DAI as an algorithmically backed stable token and get into the weeds of the new version featuring multi collateral DAI as well as the ability to natively generate interest on DAI. We also cover the current governance model and how this can be attacked. The governance will undergo an overhall for the new version of Maker, introducing an Emergency Shutdown that can be triggered through MKR holders and promises to make the system more resilient. Lastly, we venture into what Rune hopes the future will bring for MakerDAO.
Topics covered in this episode:
Recap of how single collateral DAI is kept at peg of 1 USD
Why was DAI intermittently trading at < 1USD
Governance functions exercised by MKR holders
Sale of MKR tokens and MKR distribution
Is the current governance model satisfactory?
New governance mechanisms to be rolled out soon
Introduction of multi collateral DAI
Interest generating DAI: Implementation and rationale
Future of Maker DAO: What will be able to serve as collateral?
Episode links:
MakerDAO white paper
MakerDAO CDP portal
MakerDAO Blog
Roadmap Multi Collateral DAI
DAI in numbers
DAI in DeFi
Sponsors:
Cosmos: Join the most interoperable ecosystem of connected blockchains - http://cosmos.network/epicenter
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This episode is hosted by Sunny Aggarwal & Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/298

Jul 24, 2019 • 1h 18min
Ameen Soleimani: Moloch DAO – A Simple Yet Unforgiving DAO to Fund Ethereum Development
We’re joined by Ameen Soleimani, Co-founder and CEO of SpankChan. From his humble beginnings at ConsenSys, he went on to create SpankChain in 2017 at the height of the ICO boom. The project aims to create a better and safer environment for sex workers by removing the intermediaries who take significant commissions on their revenues. SpankChain’s initial product, an adult cam platform, allows users to pay performers in crypto with a native asset over sophisticated payment channels. More recently, Ameen headed a project called Moloch DAO, a decentralized autonomous organization with the goal to fund Ethereum 2.0 development. Moloch has but few simple functions: making proposals, voting on proposals, and exiting. This simple design, heavily inspired on “The DAO” of 2016 has attracted funding from Vitalik Buterin, Joe Lubin and other prominent community members.
Topics covered in this episode:
Ameen’s background as an early ConsenSys employee working on payment channels
Why Ameen decided to found SpankChain and how the project has evolved since its inception
What is Moloch DAO and why he decided to launch it
The mechanism behind Moloch and how it compares to other DAOs
How one becomes a member of Moloch and participates in governance
The simplicity of Moloch DAO and its essential functions
How Moloch DAO scales and its intended lack of a smart contract upgrade mechanism
The attention and funding the project has already received
Proposals already made on Moloch, including YangDAO, and their utility to the ecosystem
Ameen’s views on the broader Ethereum space, his outlook on Eth 2.0 and the future of the project
Episode links:
Moloch DAO
Moloch Ventures · GitHub
Moloch DAO white paper
Moloch Summoning Guide
The State of Ethereum 2.0 report
A Study of Libp2p and ETH2
A Call for a Temporary Moratorium on The DAO
YangDAO
Ameen Soleimani on Twitter
Moloch DAO on Twitter
SpankChain
DappCon – 20% off with the code “EpicenterDappcon2019”
Epicenter Meetup at Berlin Blockchain Week – Thu 22 Aug 2019
Berlin Blockchain Week 2019
Sponsors:
Azure: Deploy enterprise-ready consortium blockchain networks that scale in just a few clicks - http://aka.ms/epicenter
Trail of Bits: Trust the team at the forefront of blockchain security research - https://trailofbits.com
This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/297

Jul 16, 2019 • 1h 10min
Jerry Brito: The Case for Electronic Cash in an Open and Free Society
We’re joined by Jerry Brito, Executive Director of Coin Center. Having discovered Bitcoin in 2011, Jerry was among the first lawyers to talk about crypto in the U.S. capital. In 2014, he founded Coin Center, a leading research and advocacy center focussing on cryptocurrencies.
In this enlightening conversation, we talk to Jerry about his paper titled “The Case for Electronic Cash,” in which he articulates why private peer-to-peer payments are essential to an open society. We also discuss Libra and the possible regulatory challenges the proposed private cash system may face. Finally, Jerry explains the recent FinCEN guidance on cryptocurrencies, which broadly follows the recommendations of Coin Center.
Topics covered in this episode:
Jerry’s background as a lawyer and his crypto beginnings in D.C.
Coin Center, it’s mission and the primary battles which the organization is fighting
“The Case for Electronic Cash” paper and why cash is vital for a free and open society
The main dysfunctions of cashless societies
Jerry’s high-level views on Libra
How Libra is different from other cryptocurrencies and electronic payment systems
The backlash immediately following the announcement and how it was received by governments
Ways in which Libra could be regulated
The recent FinCEN guidance and how it affects cryptocurrency users and companies
Episode links:
Coin Center
Jerry Brito's website
FinCEN’s new cryptocurrency guidance matches Coin Center recommendations
The Case for Electronic Cash
The differences between Bitcoin and Libra should matter to policymakers
Jerry's thoughts on Libra (tweetsorm)
Jerry response to Libra Association's Head of Policy on sanction's list (tweetsorm)
Buidl Asia
HackAtom Seoul
DappCon – 20% off with the code “EpicenterDappcon2019”
Announcing the Chorus One Podcast
Cosmology – A newsletter about the Cosmos network
Sponsors:
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This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Meher Roy. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/296

Jul 9, 2019 • 1h 4min
Robert Leshner: Compound – An Automated Money Market for Ethereum Tokens
In this episode, we caught up with Robert Leshner, founder of the Compound protocol. Compound is a fascinating smart contract protocol, running atop Ethereum, that allows users to lend and borrow specific ERC-20 tokens with a duration-free interest model. The protocol acts as a central borrower and lender of user tokens and algorithmically prices the interest charged to borrowers and lenders. Compound is one of the first examples of a well-functioning lending market built using smart contracts.
Topics covered in this episode:
Robert's background and how he came to found Compound
The workings of the compound protocol
Statistics of usage of the protocol
Intended plan for governance of the protocol in the future
Business model of the company and the protocol
Comparison of compound to other lending protocols on Ethereum
Outlook and future plans
Episode links:
Compound Website
Compound Protocol Stats
Our plan to create Compound v2
Robert Leshner on Twitter
Robert Leshner on Linkedin
Compound Finance on Twitter
Sponsors:
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This episode is hosted by Meher Roy & Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/295

Jul 4, 2019 • 1h 2min
Rob Dawson: PegaSys – Enterprise-Grade Ethereum Protocol Engineering
We're joined by Rob Dawson, Head of Product at PegaSys. PegaSys is the protocol engineering spoke of ConsenSys, and the team building Pantheon, a Java implementation of the Ethereum client. The Pantheon client was built from the ground up as both a mainnet, and consortium chain client. Written in Java with an Apache 2.0 license, it benefits from being easily accessible to enterprises, who predominantly use that language. The PegaSys team has built additional features into the Pantheon client like privacy, permissioning, and the ability to deploy chains on IBFT, a consensus algorithm better suited for consortium networks of up to 40 validators. Working closely with other protocol teams (Geth and Parity), and being a founding member of the Ethereum Enterprise Alliance, PegaSys is also working towards Ethereum 2.0.
Topics covered in this episode:
Rob’s background as an enterprise Java developer and how he became involved in the blockchain space
The role of PegaSys in the broader ConsenSys ecosystem
The Pantheon client and why they chose to build a new Ethereum client
The case for Java and why enterprise has a preference for this language
Pantheon’s unique features of privacy, permissioning, and performance
What is Istanbul BFT and how it differs from Parity POA and Tendermint BFT
The types of applications which are better suited for IBFT
The Ethereum Enterprise Alliance (EEA) and PegaSys’ work on standards
PegaSys’ work on Ethereum 1.x and Ethereum 2.0
The team's recently announced certification program
Episode links:
PegaSys Website
Introducing Pantheon, a Mainnet Java Client - Demo & Roadmap (Devcon4)
Another day, another consensus algorithm. Why IBFT 2.0?
Scaling Consensus for Enterprise: Explaining the IBFT Algorithm
Blog Posts and Webinars - Pantheon
PegaSysEng/pantheon: An enterprise-grade Java-based, Apache 2.0
licensed Ethereum client
PegaSysEng/artemis: Java Implementation of the Ethereum 2.0 Beacon
Chain
Komgo
Sponsors:
Trail of Bits: Trust the team at the forefront of blockchain security research - https://trailofbits.com
Azure: Deploy enterprise-ready consortium blockchain networks that scale in just a few clicks - http://aka.ms/epicenter
This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/294

Jun 25, 2019 • 1h 13min
Stephen Palley: The Regulatory Landscape for Cryptocurrencies and the SEC's Case Against Kik
The complex and evolving regulatory landscape for cryptocurrencies has been a topic for many years. After a long period of waiting, the SEC started pursuing fraud causes in the last 1-2 years. But the recent lawsuit against Kik is the first time that the SEC goes after a large, non-fraud case.
We were joined by lawyer Stephen Palley to discuss the Kik case, the US regulatory landscape and recent announcement of the Libra cryptocurrency promoted by Facebook.
Topics covered in this episode:
The SEC lawsuit against Kik
The potential path of the process and how it could resolve in the end
Why the Kik case is unlikely to provide any regulatory clarity in the next few years
What a settlement in the Kik case could look like
Whether the Howey test is still a sensible way to regulate securities
How US regulators will deal with decentralized exchanges
Stephen's thoughts on Libra
Episode links:
Annotated Guide to the SEC's Complaint against KIK - Katherine Wu
Kik and the SEC: What’s Going On and What Does It Mean for Crypto? -
Katie Haun
Kin Sets Up $5 Million DefendCrypto.org to Take on the SEC - Unchained
Podcast
SEC vs. Kik: The Lawyers Speak - CoinDesk
Episode 135 with Stephen Palley: Lawmodynamics – How to Sue a DAO
Stephen Palley on Twitter
Sponsors:
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This episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain & Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/293