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Epicenter brings you in-depth conversations about the technical, economic and social implications of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technologies. Every week, we interview business leaders, engineers academics and entrepreneurs, and bring you a diverse spectrum of opinions and points of view.
Epicenter is hosted by Sebastien Couture, Brian Fabian Crain, Friederike Ernst, Meher Roy and Felix Lutsch. Since 2014, our episodes have been downloaded over 8 million times.
Latest episodes

Nov 30, 2022 • 1h 7min
Fredrik Haga: Dune Analytics – The Open Data Platform
Dune Analytics is a platform aggregating blockchain data, making data easier to query and understand for the larger public. Over the past years, Dune has become the go-to tool for blockchain analytics, as well as the home of a community of dune wizards numbering in the thousands, with its fundraising at a 1 Billion valuation as a testament to the growth of the project over the past 4 years.In today's episode, we are joined by the project's co-founder, Fredrik Haga. We discuss the products Dune Analytics offers, why it's hard to aggregate data that in principle is public, and how a community of data wizards was built in a grassroots effort. We also chatted about product focus and vision for the future, as well as useful lessons for bootstrapping a project on a shoestring budget.Topics covered in this episode:The beginning of DuneThe challenges and difficulties in building a blockchain data product.Technical improvements on Dune V2Supporting for non-evm chainsBusiness models, userbases, and valuationsInteresting use cases on DuneCommunity BuildingThe focus on product experience and next steps for the projectEpisode links:Dune Analytics's websiteDune Analytics TwitterFredrik Haga's twitterSponsors:Omni: Access all of Web3 in one easy-to-use wallet! Earn and manage assets at once with Omni's built-in staking, yield vaults, bridges, swaps and NFT support. https://omni.app/ -This episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst & Felix Lutsch. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/472

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Nov 25, 2022 • 1h 20min
Ben Fielding & Harry Grieve: Gensyn – The Deep Learning Compute Protocol
Artificial Intelligence is a fascinating field that has made tremendous development over the past few years. From GPT-3 to Dall-e and Stable Diffusion, the vastness of the scope of applications for AI and neural computing is becoming clearer than ever. At the base layer, there is a need for decentralized p2p AI compute platform that provides flexible access to the wider public. Gensyn sets out on the mission to provide just that by building a market place protocol for AI compute - ultra-low cost, hyperscale, permissionless.In today’s episode we are joined by the project's co-founders Ben Fielding and Harry Grieve. We take a deep dive into the current landscape for AI and AI compute, the reasonings and trade-offs in building Gensyn, the protocol’s focus and edge cases, and how the protocol is utilizing the blockchain technology as both incentive layer and credibly neutral platform.Topics covered in this episode:The founders' background and reasonings for development on BlockchainThe current state of AI development and breakdown of AI conceptsThe current landscape for AI modeling and computeGensyn's difference to other protocols, such as GolemHow Gensyn is adhering to the decentralized default, and making trade-offs in product buildingBuilding Gensyn as a Layer-1 protocolDeep dive into the Gensyn Protocol and edge casesOther players in the protocol: solvers, verifiers, and whistle blowersBuilding a blockchainEpisode links: GensynGensyn on TwitterBen Fielding on TwitterHarry Grieve on TwitterSponsors: Tally Ho: Tally Ho is a new wallet for Web3 and DeFi that sees the wallet as a public good. Think of it like a community-owned alternative to MetaMask. - https://epicenter.rocks/tallycashThis episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/471

Nov 17, 2022 • 1h 23min
Sreeram Kannan: EigenLayer – The Ethereum Restaking Protocol
EigenLayer is a 'programmable slashing' layer2 protocol built on Ethereum which leverages security through the method of restaking. This is a bootstrapping mechanism which allows existing Eth2 stakers to access the collateral in the staking system to provide additional services, for additional yield, while taking on additional risk. We were joined by founder Sreeram Kannan who explained to us the concept of re-staking, how this works in the EigenLayer protocol, use cases, and the roadmap ahead.Topics covered in this episode:Sreeram's background and how he got into cryptoHis role at the University of Washington Blockchain LabEigenLayer and the concept of re-stakingThe risk with 'programmable slashing'The participants in the EigenLayer economyImpact on decentralization and home stakersEigenDA and other EigenLayer use casesCombatting malicious slashingThe EigenLayer roadmapEpisode links: Episode B007 - Devcon Panel – Censorship Resistance and Credible NeutralityEigenLayerEigenLayer on TwitterSreeram on TwitterSponsors: Omni: Access all of Web3 in one easy-to-use wallet! Earn and manage assets at once with Omni's built-in staking, yield vaults, bridges, swaps and NFT support.https://omni.app/ -This episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst & Felix Lutsch. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/470

Nov 10, 2022 • 1h 3min
Anastasiya Belyaeva & Luis Cuende: Nation3 – Creating a Sovereign Cloud Nation
For centuries, we have been led to believe that nation states are the only way to organize humankind at scale. But governments all around the world are failing to react swiftly to the severe destruction of our planet from things like war and climate change, and this is endangering our whole species. Nation3 is ready to overturn this, by building a Web3-powered, tax-free, solarpunk sovereign cloud nation. It is structured as a DAO, meaning there is no legal entity, no gatekeepers, and no influence by trad states. The goal is to gradually build or invest in products and services that allow citizens to be actively involved in economic activity. The $NATION token serves as the gateway to participate in the community Discord, participate in governance decisions, receive an NFT passport, and eventually receive services provided by the new cloud nation.We were joined by founders Luis and Anastasiya to chat about why they see this is as necessary for humankind, how the legal, governance and economic aspects will work, and the long term visions for the project.Topics covered in this episode:Luis and Anastasiya's backgroundsThe problem that Nation3 is trying to solveHow the legal system worksThe differences between Nation3 and traditional nationsThe core services Nation3 will provideWhy is the nation tax-free and how will the economy be supported?Issues with selling passportsHow will democracy work?The biggest learnings from AragonWhat is the vision for acquiring landEpisode links: Nation3Nation3 TechtreeNation3 on TwitterAnastasiya on TwitterLuis on TwitterSponsors: Tally Ho: Tally Ho is a new wallet for Web3 and DeFi that sees the wallet as a public good. Think of it like a community-owned alternative to MetaMask. - https://epicenter.rocks/tallycashThis episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/469

Nov 3, 2022 • 55min
Dev Bharel: Wormhole – The Cross Chain Messaging Protocol
Wormhole is a decentralized cross chain messaging protocol powering the transfer of value and information across high value chains. A network of Guardian nodes secure the protocol by observing and attesting to events and data on its connected chains. These attestations are gossiped around the open Wormhole peer-to-peer network, allowing anyone connected to the network to observe the flow of information. Portal is a bridging app built on top of Wormhole where users can seamlessly bridge tokens and NFTs across supported chains and easily enter the network’s ecosystem.We were joined by Dev Bharel, Developer Relations for Wormhole. He gave us great insight into how the protocol works, security assumptions and incidents, the concept of generalized messaging passaging, and the Portal Bridge as a first adopter of the Wormhole protocol. We also chatted about what else is being built on Wormhole, and how you can get involved.Topics covered in this episode:Dev's background and how he got into cryptoAn overview of WormholeThe different network ecosystems in Wormhole and challenges with adding new networksThe Wormhole guardian network and its plans for expansionThe user experience on Portal BridgeRelayers on the networkUsing Wormhole bridge assets directly with non-native tokensThe Wormhole hack and the changes that have been madeUsing zero knowledge proof on bridgesEpisode links: Portal BridgeWormhole hackBug bounty programDeveloper docsWormchainxHack hackathonWormhole on TwitterDev on TwitterSponsors: Omni: Access all of Web3 in one easy-to-use wallet! Earn and manage assets at once with Omni's built-in staking, yield vaults, bridges, swaps and NFT support.https://omni.app/ -This episode is hosted by Felix Lutsch. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/468

Oct 26, 2022 • 1h 3min
Vitalik Buterin: Ethereum – State of Affairs After the Merge
With the long awaited Ethereum Merge successfully executed last month, we caught up with Vitalik at DevCon in Bogota to talk shop: How does he see the state of the network, does he think looming centralization is a threat. Was Ethereum's danksharding plus third party layer 2s a good architecture decision? How much of an issue is MEV?Topics covered in this episode:The state of the network and credible neutralityShould validators have agency?How much of a problem is MEVThe Ethereum SurgeThe road to DankshardingDecentralizing the sequencerThe future of the spaceThe one most important thing we need to get right in the coming year for the ecosystem to succeedEpisode links: EthereumDevcon 6Episode 402 - Ethereum – Can It Go Beyond DeFi?Join the Epicenter team!Sponsors: Tally Ho: Tally Ho is a new wallet for Web3 and DeFi that sees the wallet as a public good. Think of it like a community-owned alternative to MetaMask. - https://epicenter.rocks/tallycashThis episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/467

Oct 24, 2022 • 1h 16min
Ethan Buchman & Zaki Manian: ATOM 2.0 – Deep Dive
Since its announcement a few weeks ago at Cosmoverse in Medellin, Atom 2.0 has sparked intense debate in the Cosmos community and throughout the blockchain ecosystem. It proposes three pillars for the Cosmos Hub: Interchain Security, the Interchain Allocator, and the Interchain Scheduler. However, parts of the paper have been contested and debated over fears of token holder dilution, potential treasury mismanagement, and even the collapse of the Hub. We chat with Ethan Buchman and Zaki Manian to dive deep into Atom 2.0 and its vision for Cosmos moving forward.Topics covered in this episode:The ATOM 2.0 announcement and follow upThe goal of the whitepaperInterchain Security and its role in Cosmos' futureInterchain Security vs. Mesh SecurityCosmos scalabilityLiquid staking in the Cosmos ecosystemDistributing funds through the AllocatorAtom issuance modelThe motivation behind the Interchain SchedulerThe governance process - voting on the whitepaperNext steps to community adoptionEpisode links: Atom 2.0 WhitepaperAtom 2.0 forum postAtom 2.0 Debate episode on The InteropEthan on TwitterZaki on TwitterJoin Epicenter!Sponsors: Tally Ho: Tally Ho is a new wallet for Web3 and DeFi that sees the wallet as a public good. Think of it like a community-owned alternative to MetaMask. - https://epicenter.rocks/tallycashThis episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Brian Fabian Crain. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/466

Oct 22, 2022 • 45min
Anett Rolikova, David Hoffmann, Joseph Schweitzer & Nick Johnson: Devcon 6 Recap – Live From Bogota
After a 2 year hiatus, Devcon was back for its 6th and best year so far, this time in Bogota, Colombia. As things wrapped up we grabbed a few of the Ethereum community's most prominent names for a recap on the conference. Hear as we chat to Nick Johnson from ENS, Anett Rolikova from Nethermind, David Hoffmann from Bankless, and Joseph Schweitzer from the Ethereum Foundation, about their particular standouts of the event, the LatAm and wider Ethereum community, and what they see coming next for Devcon 7 and beyond.Topics covered in this episode:Introductions and a look back over the conferenceThe LatAm Ethereum communityFavourite talks from the conferenceHaving a booth at DevconWhat's in store for Devcon7 next yearThe future vision for the eventEpisode links: DevconDevcon 4 recap from PragueSponsors: Omni: Access all of Web3 in one easy-to-use wallet! Earn and manage assets at once with Omni's built-in staking, yield vaults, bridges, swaps and NFT support.https://omni.app/ This episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/465

Oct 14, 2022 • 50min
Devcon Panel – Censorship Resistance and Credible Neutrality
Bonus Episode: At a side event at Devcon in Bogota Colombia, Friederike moderated a panel discussion on censorship resistance and credible neutrality with Phil from Flashbots, Patrick from Infura, Sebastian from HOPR, Martin from Gnosis, and Sreeram from EigenLayer. We dove deep into what credible neutrality constitutes, whether it needs defending, and if so how we should go about it.Topics covered in this episode:Introduction to the panelWhat is censorship resistance and credible neutrality?When has Ethereum been or not been crediably neutral, and where is it todayRecent cencorship instances in the spaceThe roadmaps for more credible neutralityEpisode links: DevconThis episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/B007

Oct 5, 2022 • 56min
Cryptocito: Cosmoverse – Where Cosmonauts Unite
We caught up with Cosmoverse co-founder and YouTuber Cryptocito, for a chat from this year's event in Medellin. We look back on the 2nd edition of the conference and how the ecosystem has grown since last year. We also dive into some of the announcements, notably, ATOM 2.0.Topics covered in this episode:Cosmoverse in MedellinCryptocito's background and how Cosmoverse was bornHighlights from the conferenceMesh security systemsCosmos community growthThoughts on Interchain Foundation (ICF)ATOM 2.0Episode links: CosmoverseCrytpocito's youtubeCosmoverse on TwitterCryptocito on TwitterSponsors: Omni: Access all of Web3 in one easy-to-use wallet! Earn and manage assets at once with Omni's built-in staking, yield vaults, bridges, swaps and NFT support.https://omni.app/ -This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Sunny Aggarwal. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/464