Our Hen House: Vegan & Animal Rights Movement | Stories from the Frontlines of Animal Liberation

This week Jasmin interviews Merissa Underwood, who was named Miss Montana 2020 and caused a stir in that state when she used her platform to talk about veganism, environmentalism and animal rights issues. Merissa tells the story of how she introduced these topics into the Miss Montana competition, the campaign of social media harrassment waged against her because of her outspoken veganism, and how her views about animals were shaped in part by her experience in the Future Farmers of America. Merissa Underwood is a Political Science major and Miss Montana USA 2020, she will be competing at Miss USA this coming fall. She has spent her entire life horseback riding competitively in 3-Day Eventing which led her to become an Animal Rights Activist & Environmentalist, volunteering with various animal rights & environmental organizations. She is passionate about raising awareness about the correlation between Factory Farming and Climate Change. Music has long been a love in her life; she is a poet, songwriter, and DJ in her spare time. In the intro to the show, Mariann examines the animal rights themes in Alfred Hitchcock’s “The Birds” and Jasmin tries to get a question about veganism answered by Tara Brach. We also continue our Supporting Vegan Businesses program by shouting out The Striped Cat Metalworks, All Y’alls Foods, and Bitchin’ Sauce. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer. This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week Mariann interviews Josh Berson, author of The Meat Question, about what people really mean when they talk about a “paleolithic” diet, zoonotics and the role of animal-source foods in facilitating their leap into human populations, and why meat became regarded as what wealthy people ate. He also shares his insight about “street food,” and tells us why he is hopeful for the future. Josh Berson is an anthropologist and philosopher who has held appointments at the Berggruen Institute and the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences, among other places. His work develops a critical perspective on how socially patterned behavior mediates the coevolution of community, individual, and milieu over timespans of one day to 1 million years, with an emphasis on food, the ecology of peripersonal space, and relationships between humans and other living things. He is the author of The Meat Question (MIT Press, 2019) and Computable Bodies (Bloomsbury, 2015) and the forthcoming The Human Scaffold (University of California Press, 2021). In the intro to the show, Mariann and Jasmin try to manage their anger towards people who aren’t wearing masks or practicing social distancing. Mariann reads an inspiring section from the book Living The Good Life by Helen and Scott Nearing, and poet Gretchen Primack reads her beautiful new poem “Covid.”  We also continue our Supporting Vegan Businesses program by shouting out Seva Foods, Odeene Soaps, and BeLeaf Vegan’s amazing egg substitute. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer. This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week we have two interviews for you! First Jasmin interviews artist and psychologist Linda Brant about her recent project, Monument To Animals We Do Not Mourn. She talks about the creation of the project and some of the beautiful symbolism she incorporated into it. Jasmin and Linda also discuss the role of art in activism, and Linda talks about the odd process of collecting and cleaning animals bones–and how that act led to her becoming vegan! You can also learn how to participate in her upcoming project. Linda Brant is a visual artist and clinical psychologist based in Orlando, Florida. She maintains a private practice, teaches graduate-level courses in Psychology at Saybrook University, and serves as Psychological Consultant to Mills Gallery in Orlando, FL.  Her art work focuses on honoring and memorializing animals that are not typically regarded as grievable.  Brant’s work can be found in Margo DeMello’s text, Mourning Animals (2016) and in Antennae: The Journal of Nature in Visual Culture (Summer 2017).  She has received two creativity grants from the Culture & Animals Foundation, partnering with Hartsdale Pet Cemetery in New York to build a monument dedicated To Animals We Do Not Mourn.  Brant has exhibited her work in shows and galleries across the country including the Women’s Research Center Gallery at the University of Central Florida in Orlando, FL, the Woman Made Gallery in Chicago, IL, the J. K. and Sarah Galloway Foundation Gallery in Winter Park FL, and the Selby Gallery at Ringling College of Art and Design.  She has won numerous awards for her work and has presented papers on her various projects at state and national conferences. Later in the episode, Mariann interviews Clare Mann, vegan psychologist and author of the new book Myths of Choice, who explains to us her theory of “life myths” and how these unquestioned assumptions affect people’s choices. What are the myths that people carry, and how do these myths keep people from making changes like becoming vegan? Clare tells us about existential psychology and how we can take control over our lives and choices. Clare Mann is an Australian-based vegan psychologist, communications trainer and animal rights campaigner. She consults with people all over the world to help address the personal and social challenges of being vegan and living in a non-vegan world and is the author of Vystopia: The Anguish of Being Vegan in a Non Vegan World. A bestselling author of many other titles, Clare runs public and in-house training programs in communication, team-building and ethical leadership for corporations, SMEs and animal rights organisations in Australia, and regularly appears on TV and in the press. An experienced keynote speaker, Clare is regularly sought out to present at vegan and animal rights conferences, rallies and festivals, and is the co-founder of the Vegan Voices smartphone app, a free 30-day video communications training for vegans. In the intro to the show, Mariann and Jasmin explore the epiphanies they are having in these isolated times, and why they are trying to avoid using Amazon. We also continue our Supporting Vegan Businesses program by shouting out Brewing Good Coffee Company, PNT BSD, Just Veggiez, and Lavva Yogurt. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer. This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week Mariann interviews Rich Hardy, author of the new book Not As Nature Intended, about his career as an undercover journalist chronicling animal exploitation all around the world, including fur trapping, live animal markets, the chicken industry, and more. Rich shares the challenges of finding new ways to execute undercover investigations and the changes he has seen–or not seen–among systems and people who exploit animals for human consumption. He also reveals how the film Okja led him to the decision to leave this work behind. Rich Hardy has been a professional environment and animal protection activist for over 25 years. He has led campaigns for some of Britain’s most creative and successful non-profit organisations including Surfers Against Sewage, cleaning up Europe’s coastlines and starting their fight against ocean plastic, and Veganuary, a pledge campaign that inspired a quarter of a million people to try a vegan diet in 2019. But all the while, over the course of two decades, he’s been going undercover to document animal suffering, for human gain. His images and testimony have fuelled the work of over twenty international animal protection organisations. His high-risk endeavours saw him awarded a Daily Mirror ‘Animal Hero’ Award in September 2019. In the intro to the show, Mariann and Jasmin discuss the new documentary Catnip Nation, and a frustrating NY Times piece about the New York City restaurant industry. We also continue our Supporting Vegan Businesses program by shouting out VegReady, Vegan Street Media, and Riverdel Cheese. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer. This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week Jasmin interviews Seth Tibbott, founder of the Tofurky company, about his journey from living in a treehouse to revolutionizing the use of tempeh, how a Discovery Channel star derailed his first career dream and inadvertently led him to where he is today, the history of Tofurky, and why he’s still waiting for its “sexy” break-out product. In 1980, Seth Tibbott founded Turtle Island Foods, now “the Tofurky Company”, on $2500 savings from his 8-year career as a teacher/naturalist. The company’s first product was a tasty fermented Indonesian soy product called Tempeh.  Many people, including his midwestern Aunt and fellow elementary school teachers, thought selling moldy soybeans to the meat centric American public was a very bad idea.   For 15 years it appeared the naysayers were right as Seth pursued his dream while losing his shirt as a pioneer of the early plant-based foods movement.  With an income of only $300/month, Seth built a 3-story treehouse that he called home for 7 years.  In 1995, also against the advice of his partners, Seth introduced the first nationally marketed vegan holiday roast named “Tofurky”.  The Tofurky brand now includes 35 different vegan products which are sold in 27,000 stores worldwide. Seth has chronicled his   “40-year overnight success story” in a new book, In Search of the Wild Tofurky, that is now available “Wherever fine books are sold, or the shelf just below”. In the intro to the show, Mariann and Jasmin examine how to practice gratitude during this ongoing pandemic and watch Tootsie together. We also continue our Supporting Vegan Businesses program by shouting out Kisses and Cupcakes, Coconut Whisk, Shake Shake Scramble, and No Meat May. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer.   This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week Jasmin interviews Lenore Braford and Paul Drake of Piedmont Farm Animal Refuge about the unique animal-specific architecture they designed and built to accommodate the rescued animals at their sanctuary. By paying critical attention to the different needs of the array of animals on site and utilizing their design training, Lenore and Paul have created a sanctuary that aims to mimic as closely as possible the natural habitats of their animal population. They talk about why this is so important, and they share some of their knowledge and tips for anyone who is looking to do similar work even just at the microsanctuary level. Lenore Braford is the founder of Piedmont Farm Animal Refuge and serves as the Shelter Manager, directly caring for and helping to coordinate the care for the 120 animal residents who call the Refuge home. Lenore has nearly a decade of experience working with and enriching the lives of animals. Before beginning her work with animals, Lenore served for nearly 10 years as a therapist for children with disabilities. Paul Drake graduated from NC State University with a Master of Architecture where he received both the Catalano Scholarship and the Kamphoefner Fellowship for outstanding design work. Paul Drake is the primary designer and builder at Piedmont Farm Animal Refuge. His pioneering work at the Refuge calls attention to the plight of farm animals and advocates for a more compassionate animal architecture. In the intro to the show, Mariann and Jasmin ask what it would mean to go back to “normal” for animals after a pandemic and if we actually want to go back to that, debate what is “essential” during a pandemic, and share how they spent their Seders. We also continue our Supporting Vegan Businesses program by shouting out Lagusta’s Luscious, Besties, Nature’s Plate, and Plant-Based Grocery. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer.   This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week Jasmin interviews Aryenish Birdie about her incredible work with Encompass. She tells Jasmin about the work of the DEI Institute (which stands for diversity, equity, and inclusion), and how she and her co-founder managed to switch what was supposed to be the institute’s live conference to a Zoom conference. Aryenish talks with Jasmin about why focusing on diversity, equity, and inclusion are vital to the growth of organizations, and how people can foster that growth in their own organizations. She also explains the meaning of the term “global majority.” Aryenish founded Encompass after witnessing firsthand the urgent need for a more diverse, equitable, and inclusive animal protection movement. Prior to Encompass, Aryenish spent seven years at the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine promoting alternatives to animal tests. As a federal lobbyist, she was part of a four-woman team instrumental in reforming the Toxic Substances Control Act to ensure that animal protection language was integrated into the law. Because of her work on this effort, she was invited by the White House to watch President Obama sign the bill into law, marking one of the highlights of her career. In addition to her more than two decades of experience in animal protection, Aryenish has worked in other social justice movements, including those striving for racial equity, queer rights, and reproductive freedom. She has been trained on how to develop the capacity of organizations by the School of Unity and Liberation, Race Forward and the Center for Social Inclusion. In the intro to the show, Jasmin talks about attending the DEI Institute’s conference via Zoom, Mariann celebrates a birthday while social distancing, we discuss the merits of keeping a diary during a pandemic, and we introduce our Supporting Vegan Businesses program by shouting out Beyond Investing. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer.   This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week Mariann interviews Jeff Sebo about how our environmental choices and the way we think and talk about animals continue to have significant effects on climate change and biodiversity. Jeff tells us why it’s so important to center animals in discussions of climate change policies and what a world reshaped by climate change might look like. He also shares some updates on the work of the Animal Studies program at NYU, now in its tenth year! Jeff Sebo is Clinical Assistant Professor of Environmental Studies, Affiliated Professor of Bioethics, Medical Ethics, and Philosophy, and Director of the Animal Studies M.A. Program at New York University. He works primarily in bioethics, animal ethics, and environmental ethics. He is co-author of Chimpanzee Rights (Routledge, 2018) and Food, Animals, and the Environment (Routledge, 2018). He is also on the Board of Directors at Animal Charity Evaluators, the Board of Directors at Minding Animals International, and the Executive Committee at the Animals & Society Institute. In the intro to the show, Jasmin and Mariann chat about their continuing efforts to manage daily life as we navigate the COVID-19 pandemic, the value of helping local communities, Mariann’s upcoming birthday, and Jasmin’s recent interview with Joaquin Phoenix! Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer.   This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week Jasmin interviews Robin Singh, co-founder of India’s Peepal Farms, about the mission and rescue work of the organization, how Peepal Farms is assisting with the growing dog rescue movement in India, why this work has made him so much happier, and his inspirational philosophy of “good vs. bad.” Robin Singh is an Entrepreneur, working for doing good. After starting his career as a hacker in 1998, he then founded Ejunkie in 2003, a service to remove technology barrier for artists and authors wanting to sell  their digital content directly to buyers. Later that year, he moved to Tucson, Arizona and continued to build Ejunkie. After successfully exiting in 2011, Robin started working to help animals in February, 2013  starting in Auroville, India and then Delhi. Realizing that the nature of welfare projects in India being such that they can’t be scaled by scaling the infrastructure, He changed the strategy from just “doing” to involving and inspiring. In December 2014 along with two other co-founders he started Peepal Farm – a place for animals to heal, and be heard. He’s been building it, running it, and living there since. This International Spotlight segment is brought to you by Lush Cosmetics. In the intro to the show, Mariann and Jasmin talk about how they are adjusting to life during the COVID-19 quarantines, the challenges of trying to focus on work and everyday tasks during a pandemic, and Jasmin’s new rescued animal companion! Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer.   This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.

This week Mariann speaks with Pei Sui of ACTAsia. In this very timely conversation, Pei discusses the devastating impact of China’s wildlife trade and wildlife markets on the Coronavirus and ACTAsia’s efforts in the wake of the Coronavirus to permanently close these markets and ban the captive breeding of all wildlife for consumption and commercial purposes. ACTAsia is also very involved in childhood education through its Caring for Life children’s program, and Pei tells Mariann about why this international curriculum for educating children about the importance of wildlife awareness is so important, particularly in Asia, and how ACTAsia has been using this terrible Coronavirus situation to educate people about the urgency of protecting wildlife from being bred and used for food and to create more opportunities for activism and education. Pei Sui is the Founder and Chief Executive of ACTAsia. She worked for 20 years in non profit organizations before she set up ACTAsia in 2006. As a sociologist, she focused on the attitudes and behavior of humans towards animals and the impact on civic society. She has conductive investigative studies on numerous issues in Asian countries such as bear farming, illegal wildlife trade and left-behind children in rural China. This International Spotlight segment is brought to you by Lush Cosmetics. In the intro to the show, Mariann and Jasmin discuss the continued importance of community, connection, and communication during the Coronavirus pandemic and Jasmin’s recent powerful experience in a conference conducted by the DEI Institute, which is part of Encompass. Later in the episode, Mariann brings us Rising Anxieties! As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer.   This episode is brought to you in part through the generosity of A Well-Fed World. A Well-Fed World provides the means for change by empowering individuals, social justice organizations, and political decision makers to embrace the benefits of plant-based foods and farming. Learn more at awfw.org. Our Hen House is now part of the iROAR podcast network. You can listen to our podcast directly on our website, or subscribe on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcatcher! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it and leave us a comment on Apple Podcasts! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would also consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated, and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible! Thank you for helping us create quality content, and for helping us bring you a new podcast episode each week! Don’t forget to tune into Our Hen House’s other two podcasts: The Teaching Jasmin How to Cook Vegan Podcast, and The Animal Law Podcast. The Our Hen House theme song is written and performed by the incredible Michael Harren.