

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley
Center for Action and Contemplation
Turning to the Mystics is a podcast for people searching for something more meaningful, intimate and richly present in the divine gift of their lives. James Finley, clinical psychologist and Living School faculty, offers a modern take on the historical contemplative practices of Christian mystics like Teresa of Avila, Thomas Merton, John of the Cross among others. Leaning into their experiences can become a gateway to hope, healing and oneness. Together with Kirsten Oates from the Center for Action and Contemplation, they explore listener questions and examine their own paths as modern contemplatives in this beautiful and broken world.
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Mar 31, 2025 • 54min
Dialogue 1: Core Themes
The discussion dives into Gabriel Marcel's philosophical themes, contrasting primary and secondary reflection on existence. Awareness transforms how we perceive love, death, and interconnectedness, shifting challenges into mysteries to embrace. The speakers explore the divine connection within consciousness and the depth of being, highlighting introspection's role in spiritual awakening. They reflect on life's winding path and 'thou moments' that enhance our relationships and groundedness. Ultimately, it's about recognizing the richness of existence and fostering a deeper connection with the divine.

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Mar 24, 2025 • 32min
Gabriel Marcel: Session 1
Dive into the intriguing philosophy of Gabriel Marcel as the discussion unfolds around self-awareness and the distinction between problems and mysteries. They explore the mystery of human existence, intertwining concepts of love, consciousness, and shared experiences while contrasting productivity with introspection. Insights from poets and philosophers highlight the significance of recognizing others as 'thous.' Finally, the podcast introduces contemplative practices that foster divine presence, promoting humility and community engagement.

Mar 17, 2025 • 42min
Turning to Gabriel Marcel
Welcome to Season 11 of Turning to the Mystics. This season we are turning to philosopher Gabriel Marcel for spiritual guidance. In this episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates cover the life and person of Marcel and discuss how we can work with his ideas to transform our lives.Resources:
Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about James Finley, visit his faculty profile here.
The transcript for this episode will be available soon.
The book we will be using this season can be found here.
Connect with us:
Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about this season?
Email us: podcasts@cac.org
Send us a voicemail: cac.org/voicemail
We'll be accepting questions for our Listener Questions episode until May 13th, 2025.This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/ Thank you!

Feb 24, 2025 • 3min
Coming Soon: Turning to Gabriel Marcel
Season 11 of Turning to the Mystics will continue with our next mystic, Gabriel Marcel.Our journey begins on March 17, 2025.Resources:Pick up a copy ofThe Philosophy of Gabriel Marcel by Kenneth T. Gallagher: here
Connect with us:
Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about this season?
Email us: podcasts@cac.org
Send us a voicemail: cac.org/voicemail

Dec 20, 2024 • 40min
T.S. Eliot: Listener Questions (Part Two)
Listen in as Kirsten and Jim tackle listener questions, diving deep into T.S. Eliot's 'Four Quartets.' They explore how poetry can catalyze emotional healing, the importance of living in the eternal present, and the relationship between anger and introspection. Discover transformative journeys through trauma and the interplay of faiths, as well as Eliot's nuanced themes of duality in existence. The discussion celebrates the power of emotion in poetry, connecting nature, desire, and spirituality.

Dec 16, 2024 • 40min
T.S. Eliot: Listener Questions (Part One)
Listeners dive into T.S. Eliot's poetry, focusing on the themes of time and eternity. Discover the beauty of living fully in the present, where each moment is viewed as a precious gift. Explore the link between meditation and recognizing sacred moments in our lives. The podcast also examines the complex nature of existence, grace, and the profound impact of anger on spiritual growth. Plus, a humorous take on the shared experience of waiting in lines reveals unexpected connections among people.

Dec 4, 2024 • 52min
BONUS: Stories of Pilgrimage
Listeners share inspiring pilgrimage stories as the hosts connect them to themes of spiritual journeys. Personal narratives spotlight unexpected guidance, emphasizing how diverse paths lead to profound spiritual growth. Collective reflections reveal the power of community in nurturing spiritual awakening. A moving poem encapsulates the yearning for belonging, while insights into divine love illustrate how trust in God can liberate burdens. The episode culminates in gratitude for shared experiences, reinforcing the significance of each unique pilgrimage.

Nov 25, 2024 • 1h
A Coaching Session on Four Quartets
Dive into a meditative journey inspired by T.S. Eliot's 'Four Quartets,' exploring the profound connection between poetry and personal spirituality. Discover the importance of stillness, solitude, and reflective practices in fostering divine connections. Embrace the complexities of existence through mindfulness and patience, as well as the unexpected emergence of hope and love. Uncover the fluid dance of prayer and meditation, and celebrate the cyclical nature of spiritual growth, all contributing to a richer understanding of one's journey.

Nov 18, 2024 • 42min
Bonus: Malcolm Guite on T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets (Part 2)
On the second half of our special bonus episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates continue their conversation with Malcolm Guite. The group briefly discusses the third of of T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets, The Dry Salvages, before diving into the grand finale, Little Gidding.Resources:
Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about James Finley, visit his faculty profile here.
The transcript for this episode can be found here.
The book we will be using this season can be found here.
A free version can be accessed online here.
Connect with us:
Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about this season?
Email us: podcasts@cac.org
Send us a voicemail: cac.org/voicemail
We'll be accepting questions for our Listener Questions episode until November 7th, 2024.This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/ Thank you!

Nov 11, 2024 • 47min
Bonus: Malcolm Guite on T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets (Part 1)
On this special bonus episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates interview Malcolm Guite about the nature of poetry to speak to directly to the heart, as it attempts to give shape and form to the ineffable. They also discuss the first two of T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets, providing additional depth and insight into Eliot's use of pattern, exploration of time and place, as well as his references to the mystics.Resources:
Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about James Finley, visit his faculty profile here.
The transcript for this episode can be found here.
The book we will be using this season can be found here.
A free version can be accessed online here.
Connect with us:
Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about this season?
Email us: podcasts@cac.org
Send us a voicemail: cac.org/voicemail
We'll be accepting questions for our Listener Questions episode until November 7th, 2024.This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/ Thank you!


