

Expected Volume
Matt Reardon
Every two weeks we surprise Chana with a new guest from the EA/rationalist-sphere and sometimes even the buttoned-up AI Safet– ahem– AI Security field.
Chana tells us how to live and think; Matt does all the work; occasionally a joke gets cracked; complaining is unceasing.
Chana tells us how to live and think; Matt does all the work; occasionally a joke gets cracked; complaining is unceasing.
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Jul 24, 2025 • 1h 2min
80k's AI 2027 Video Director's Commentary
Chana triumphs at work with the release of her AI 2027 video, but even after two million views and 85,000 subscribers, she still has to win over her biggest critic. But to get there, she’ll have to understand what the hell he’s saying first. Watch 80k’s AI 2027 video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KVDDfAkRgc Read Matt’s lamentations here: https://frommatter.substack.com/p/sadly-80k

Jun 29, 2025 • 1h 6min
Mixed Motivations w/ Daniel Filan
Are do gooders getting corrupted by prestige, or just nerdsniped? We explore that question, and, with no hint of irony, what would make good merch for the podcast.Plus! we finally have an email where you can write in with questions: mattandchana@gmail.com Daniel's podcast here: https://axrp.net/Daniel other podcast here: https://thefilancabinet.com/Daniel on Twitter: https://x.com/freed_dfilan

Jun 15, 2025 • 60min
The Church of Shrimp Welfare w/ Conor Barnes
Matt can't resist talking politics and religion, but everything gets better when we pivot to Disney movies (which are allegedly based on books) featuring the great Conor Barnes of 80k Job Board fame!Conor's writing: https://parhelia.conorbarnes.com/ The Daily Show on Shrimp Welfare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNbIKtGMoaA

Jun 1, 2025 • 52min
Econo-clast w/ Phil Trammell
Phil Trammell, a postdoctoral researcher at Stanford's Digital Economy Lab, dives into the intriguing intersection of AI and market economics. He discusses the implications of Kanye's controversies and the evolving norms surrounding risk tolerance in philanthropy. Phil also shares insights on the long-term trends of index returns and the reasoning behind patient investors opting for illiquid assets. The conversation explores moral hazard in insurance markets and raises thought-provoking questions about community norms and the future of economic research in an AI-driven world.

May 18, 2025 • 51min
Eschatological Territoriality w/ Andy Masley
Chana wasn't sure there'd be a guest three days after we decided (read: she agreed) to do this show, but there was! ...And she showed up late anyway, so much discussion of punctuality ensued. We also cover veganism, AI, and not alcohol. LINKS:Rumsfeld! The MusicalChatGPT on the lives of factory farmed pigs All found on Andy's great blog, The Weird Turn Pro – renaming in progress, but doubtful


