
Open at Intel
The Open at Intel podcast is about all things open source, from software to security to artificial intelligence to Linux and beyond. Each episode brings you fresh perspectives with sophisticated, leading-edge, free-ranging conversations from some of the best minds in the open source community.
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Jun 26, 2024 • 23min
Tightening Our Cloud Native Belts: OpenCost for Kubernetes Cost Monitoring
Matt Ray, the community manager for the CNCF sandbox project OpenCost, discusses their cloud and Kubernetes cost monitoring technology. He covers the capabilities of OpenCost in tracking cloud expenses and its new feature for monitoring carbon costs. Matt elaborates on the project's origin, its open source community, and the collaborative effort with other companies like Grafana and Microsoft. The conversation covers the community's growth, contribution processes, and OpenCost's goals for becoming more diverse and integrated with other technologies. Matt also reflects on the increasing interest in cost monitoring and his personal journey in the open source community.
00:00 Introduction to Matt Ray and OpenCost
01:09 OpenCost's Origins and CNCF Contribution
02:25 OpenCost vs. KubeCost: Defining the Boundaries
03:35 Adoption and Integration of OpenCost
04:30 Community Contributions and Project Growth
07:00 Flexibility and Use Cases of OpenCost
13:58 Becoming a Committer and Maintainer
14:47 Community Engagement and Participation
15:25 Future Plans and Focus
16:39 Carbon Cost and Plugin Architecture
17:53 Personal Journey in Open Source
Guest:
Matt Ray has been active in Open Source and DevOps communities for over two decades and has spoken at and helped organize many conferences and meetups. He is currently the Senior Community Manager at Kubecost for the CNCF Sandbox Project OpenCost. He has worked in and with enterprises and startups across a wide variety of industries including banking, retail, and government. He currently resides in Sydney, Australia after relocating from Austin, Texas. He co-hosts the Software Defined Talk podcast and is active on Mastodon, GitHub, and too many Slacks.

Jun 20, 2024 • 22min
Fine-Grained Authorization with OpenFGA
Andres Aguiar joins us to discuss OpenFGA, an open source project for managing fine-grained authorization. Andres covers the challenges in implementing authorization and the importance of using precise access controls to enhance security. He outlines the project's journey, use cases, and how it can be integrated into different software environments. The conversation highlights the community's contributions, the roadmap for OpenFGA, and the potential of AI in improving security through centralized logging and anomaly detection.
00:13 Meet Andres and OpenFGA
01:48 Project Maturity and Community
02:55 Adoption and Use Cases
04:43 Contributions and Integrations
05:59 Understanding Relationship-Based Access Control
16:13 Future Roadmap and AI Potential
Guest:
Andres Aguiar has spent his 20+ year career building tools for developers, wearing different hats. He’s been working on the identity space for the last 6 years, and is currently the Product Manager for OpenFGA.

Jun 12, 2024 • 28min
How to Make Your First Open Source Contributions
We spoke with Edoardo Dusi from Sparkfabrik about Edoardo's career path from a backend software engineer specializing in Drupal to his current role in Developer Relations (DevRel). He shared his experiences and the importance of community involvement when working with open source software. He highlighted the supportive nature of open source communities and provided advice for newcomers. We also covered the work of the Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF) and the significance of security in open source projects.
00:00 Welcome and Introduction 01:03 Sparkfabrik and Drupal
02:01 Exploring KubeCon
02:56 Getting Involved in Open Source
06:10 Challenges in Modern Open Source
08:37 Joining OpenSSF
11:21 Importance of Security in Open Source
13:01 European Perspectives on Security
14:14 The Role of Big Tech in Open Source
14:36 Community Contributions and Impact
16:34 Navigating the Contribution Process
21:24 Advice for New Open Source Contributors
25:47 The Human Side of Software Development
Guest:
Edoardo Dusi is a Developer Relations Engineer at SparkFabrik, a company that helps organisations build digital products with open source technologies. He has a strong software developer and team leader background, working on various projects and platforms. He is passionate about creating and sharing content that educates and inspires other developers, such as tech talks, videos, podcasts, conferences, and more. He enjoys connecting with the developer community and promoting the benefits of open source software.

Jun 5, 2024 • 31min
Building Better Open Source Projects
Divya Mohan of SUSE discusses her role in in the open source community, highlighting the significance of documentation in software development, drawing from her experiences in the Kubernetes SIG Documentation group and her previous roles. The discussion spans topics like the impact of poorly documented code, the challenges of maintaining comprehensive documentation in open source projects, and advice for fledgling project maintainers. Divya shares her enthusiasm for WebAssembly and its potential to revolutionize software development through inclusivity and standardization, challenging the traditional write-once-run-anywhere paradigm. We conclude with insights on the formation and mission of the Bytecode Alliance and the future prospects of WebAssembly.
00:00 Introduction
01:26 Role and Responsibilities at SUSE
04:25 Importance of Documentation
08:19 Challenges in Documentation and Code Commenting
12:21 Single Maintainer Projects and Documentation Advice
14:47 Challenges in Maintaining Documentation
17:53 Introduction to Bytecode Alliance
18:12 WebAssembly: Beyond the Web
19:00 The Role of Standards in WebAssembly
21:55 The Future of WebAssembly
28:34 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Guest:
Divya Mohan is a Senior Technical Evangelist at SUSE, where she contributes to Rancher’s cloud native open source projects. She co-chairs the documentation for the Kubernetes & LitmusChaos projects & has previously worked extensively in the systems engineering space during her tenure with HSBC & IGate Global Solutions Pvt Ltd. A co-creator of the KCNA exam & a CNCF ambassador, she is invested in making technical communities & technologies more accessible & inclusive.

May 30, 2024 • 30min
Empowering Developers with AI Tools
In this episode, we dive into Codium, an AI-powered coding platform designed to assist developers throughout the software development lifecycle, especially in testing, code review, and documentation. Dedy Kredo, one of Codium's co-founders, explains the unique features and benefits of the platform, comparing it to other tools like GitHub Copilot. The discussion also touches on Codium's adaptability for test-driven development and its flexible deployment options, highlighting the importance of security and configuration. Additionally, the significance of the Intel Ignite startup program and the impact of AI hype on Codium's rapid growth are discussed. Listeners will gain insights into Codium's open-core model and open-source projects, including the Alpha Codium research project.
00:00 Introduction
00:13 What is Codium?
01:35 Comparison with Other AI Coding Tools
03:01 Test-Driven Development and Codium
05:40 Customization and Configuration
08:17 Deployment Options and Security
11:11 Intel Ignite Program Experience
13:45 Impact of AI Hype on Business
17:02 AI-Assisted Development and Semi-Automation
17:43 Improving Code Quality and Productivity
18:33 Challenges and Opportunities in AI for Software Development
20:27 Adopting AI Tools in Development Teams
24:07 Open Source Projects and Community Engagement
28:11 Conclusion and Future Prospects
Guest:
Dedy Kredo is the Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer of CodiumAI, leading the product and engineering teams to empower developers to build software faster and more accurately through the use of artificial and human intelligence.
Before founding CodiumAI, he served as VP of Customer Facing Data Science at Explorium, where he built and led a talented data science team and played a key role in the company's growth from seed to series C.
Previously, he was the founder of an online marketing startup, growing it from a bootstrapped venture to millions in revenue. Before that, he spent seven years in Colorado and California as a product line manager at VMware's management business unit. During this time, he worked closely with Fortune 500 companies and successfully launched several new products to market.

May 22, 2024 • 29min
The Kubernetes Effect: Abdel Sghiouar on Modernizing Infrastructure and Communities
We had a fun chat with Abdel Sghiouar of Google about his work in the Kubernetes world, being a cloud native road warrior, and his thoughts on where the ecosystem goes from here. Abdel shares his transition from a data center role at Google to consulting and finally into developer relations, emphasizing the importance of in-person interactions and learning from community engagements. He reflects on Kubernetes' evolution, its application beyond traditional computing environments, and the shift towards more developer-friendly infrastructure management tools. We also explore the cultural and technological shifts within the tech community, stressing the perpetual relevance of foundational computing skills, the potential of emerging technologies like WASM, and the critical nature of security in development practices.
00:00 Welcome and Intro
01:45 From Data Centers to Kubernetes
04:25 The Evolution and Impact of Kubernetes
07:40 Navigating the Kubernetes Ecosystem and Community Growth
13:52 Addressing the Complexity of Kubernetes for Newcomers
15:20 Fundamentals to Cloud Transition
17:29 The Never-Ending Journey of Learning and Adaptation
20:49 The Future of Tech: Kubernetes, AI, and Beyond
24:51 The Simplicity Behind Complex Tech Solutions
26:19 Looking Ahead
Guest:
Abdel Sghiouar is a Cloud Developer Advocate @Google Cloud. His focus areas are GKE/Kubernetes, Service Mesh and Serverless. Abdel started his career in datacenters and infrastructure in Morocco before moving to Google's largest EU datacenter in Belgium. Then in Sweden he joined Google Cloud Professional Services and spent 5 years working with Google Cloud customers on architecting and designing large scale distributed systems before turning to advocacy and community work. You can follow him at @boredabdel.

May 15, 2024 • 23min
Conversations on Community, Cloud Infrastructure, and Sustainability
Niki Manoledaki and Stephanie Hingtgen from Grafana discuss their open source community roles and contributions toward environmental sustainability. Niki serves as a co-chair of the Green Reviews Working Group within the CNCF Environmental Sustainability Technical Advisory Group, focusing on promoting energy and carbon efficiency. Stephanie works on both the open source Grafana project and Grafana Cloud, emphasizing the value of contributing to open source. We discuss the importance of energy consumption metrics in technology, the use of Kubernetes for event-driven auto-scaling through KEDA, and efforts to enhance operational and environmental efficiency. Niki and Stephanie share insights on scaling applications, the relationship between cost reduction and environmental sustainability, and introduce several projects like Karpenter and Kepler.
00:00 Introduction to Grafana's Community Engagement
01:40 Exploring Environmental Sustainability in Tech
04:30 Diving into Open Source Contributions and Projects
05:26 Scaling and Autoscaling: Insights and Challenges
12:56 Cost vs. Environmental Sustainability
19:06 Personal Journeys into Open Source Software
21:24 Closing Thoughts on Open Source and Sustainability
Resources
How Grafana Labs switched to Karpenter to reduce costs and complexities in Amazon EKS
Guests
Niki Manoledaki is a software engineer, environmental sustainability advocate, keynote speaker, meetup organiser, and community facilitator. She advocates for environmental sustainability in the CNCF as a Lead of the CNCF Environmental Sustainability TAG where she co-chairs the Green Reviews WG.
Stephanie Hingtgen is a Senior Software Engineer II at Grafana Labs. As a member of the Grafana as a Service team, her focus has been on orchestrating thousands of Grafana instances in Kubernetes for Grafana Cloud. Her previous experience includes developing a private cloud platform to provision Kubernetes resources for engineers at Comcast.

May 8, 2024 • 26min
Authorization with SpiceDB
We spoke with Jimmy Zelinskie, Co-founder of AuthZed, about his significant history in the cloud native ecosystem and open source community. We learn about his start writing BitTorrent software in college and his eventual startups including AuthZed, which develops SpiceDB. SpiceDB, inspired by Google's internal Zanzibar system, aims to democratize complex authorization solutions for various applications. The discussion also covers the evolution of Kubernetes, the role of open source in fostering innovation, and the significance of community collaboration in addressing common challenges in authorization and secure system design. Jimmy's experience showcases the benefits of open source for solving intricate problems and his commitment to making sophisticated technology accessible to a broader audience.
00:00 Introduction
00:14 The Buzz of KubeCon
00:50 Introducing Jimmy: From BitTorrent to Kubernetes Pioneer
03:41 The Journey of SpiceDB: From Concept to Adoption
06:43 Navigating the Authorization Ecosystem
11:55 The Future of Authorization: Innovations and Roadmap
14:32 Personal Insights: Open Source Journey and Product Management
19:08 KubeCon Highlights and Kubernetes API Proxy Announcement
Guest:
Jimmy Zelinskie is a software engineer and product leader with the goal of empowering the world through the democratization of software through open source development. He's currently the CPO and cofounder of authzed where he's focused on bringing hyperscaler best-practices in authorization software to the industry at large.
At CoreOS, he helped pioneer the cloud-native ecosystem by starting and contributing to many of its foundational open source projects. After being acquired by Red Hat, his focus shifted to the enablement and adoption of cloud-native technologies by mature enterprise stakeholders. To this day, he still contributes to cloud-native ecosystem by building the future on top of these technologies and maintaining standards such as Open Container Initiative (OCI).

May 1, 2024 • 32min
User Experience and Open Source Software
We explore the importance of good user experience (UX) in open source software with Máirín "Mo" Duffy from Red Hat. Sharing her journey from an OG Linux contributor to her studies in Human-Computer Interaction, Moe highlights how her academic and professional path has been shaped by the intent to make open source software more accessible and user-friendly. She shares the unique challenges of integrating UX practices into open source development, the relationship between software developers and UX designers, and the impact of UX on software usability and adoption. Moe discusses her work on Podman Desktop, a tool aimed at simplifying Kubernetes environments for developers, and emphasizes the significance of education and accessibility in open source tools for the next generation of developers. The conversation also touches on the potential roles and benefits of AI in enhancing UX and solving human-centric problems within technology.
00:00 Welcome to KubeCon Fishbowl: A Dive into UX in Open Source
01:06 The Journey from Linux Enthusiast to UX Pioneer
04:20 Embracing Open Source Tools for Accessible Design
05:57 The Unique Challenges of UX Design in Open Source
08:57 Podman Desktop: Bridging Developers and Kubernetes
15:33 Exploring the Impact of Cloud Native Training on New Graduates
16:29 The Power of UX in Open Source Development
17:47 Practical Steps to Start in UX Design
20:28 The Role of UX in Software Development and Adoption
26:17 Leveraging AI for UX Design and Beyond
Guest:
Máirín "Mo" Duffy is a Sr. Principal Interaction Designer at Red Hat. A recipient of the O’Reilly Open Source Award, Máirín has over 15 years of expertise in UX & design working upstream in FLOSS communities. Her portfolio is wide-ranging, from OS management tools; to OS infra UIs; to the cloud-based medical image processing project, ChRIS; to the developer-oriented Podman Desktop. She has an M.S. in Human-Computer Interaction and a B.S. in Computer Science from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.

Apr 24, 2024 • 28min
Better Than the Sum of Our Parts
Stephen Augustus, Head of Open Source at Cisco, and Liz Rice, Chief Open Source Officer at Isovalent, discuss Cisco's acquisition of Isovalent, which has closed since recording, bringing together two teams with long-standing expertise in open source cloud native technologies, observability, and security. The two share their excitement about working together, emphasizing the alignment of Isovalent with Cisco's security division and the potential enhancements this acquisition brings to open source projects like Cilium and eBPF. They explore the implications for the open source community, and the continuous investment and development in these projects under Cisco's umbrella. We discuss the ways this merger could innovate security practices, enhance infrastructure observability, and leverage AI for more intelligent networking solutions.
00:00 Welcome and Introduction
00:22 Cisco's Acquisition of Isovalent
00:53 The Excitement and Potential of the Acquisition
02:14 Strategic Alignment and Future Vision
04:03 Open Source Commitment and Community Impact
06:53 The Road Ahead: Integration and Innovation
19:49 Exploring AI and Future Technologies at Cisco
26:03 Reflections and Closing Thoughts
Resources:
Cilium, eBPF and Beyond | Open at Intel (podbean.com)
The Art of Open Source: A Conversation with Stephen Augustus | Open at Intel (podbean.com)
Guests:
Liz Rice is Chief Open Source Officer with eBPF specialists Isovalent, creators of the Cilium cloud native networking, security and observability project. She was Chair of the CNCF’s Technical Oversight Committee in 2019-2022, and Co-Chair of KubeCon + CloudNativeCon in 2018. She is also the author of Container Security, published by O’Reilly.
She has a wealth of software development, team, and product management experience from working on network protocols and distributed systems, and in digital technology sectors such as VOD, music, and VoIP. When not writing code, or talking about it, Liz loves riding bikes in places with better weather than her native London, competing in virtual races on Zwift, and making music under the pseudonym Insider Nine.
Stephen Augustus is a Black engineering director and leader in open source communities. He is the Head of Open Source at Cisco, working within the Strategy, Incubation, & Applications (SIA) organization.
For Kubernetes, he has co-founded transformational elements of the project, including the KEP (Kubernetes Enhancements Proposal) process, the Release Engineering subproject, and Working Group Naming. Stephen has also previously served as a chair for both SIG PM and SIG Azure.
He continues his work in Kubernetes as a Steering Committee member and a Chair for SIG Release.
Across the wider LF (Linux Foundation) ecosystem, Stephen has the pleasure of serving as a member of the OpenSSF Governing Board and the OpenAPI Initiative Business Governing Board.
Previously, he was a TODO Group Steering Committee member, a CNCF (Cloud Native Computing Foundation) TAG Contributor Strategy Chair, and one of the Program Chairs for KubeCon / CloudNativeCon, the cloud native community’s flagship conference.
He is a maintainer for the Scorecard and Dex projects, and a prolific contributor to CNCF projects, amongst the top 40 (as of writing) code/content committers, all-time.
In 2020, Stephen co-founded the Inclusive Naming Initiative, a cross-industry group dedicated to helping projects and companies make consistent, responsible choices to remove harmful language across codebases, standards, and documentation.
He has previously held positions at VMware (via Heptio), Red Hat, and CoreOS.
Stephen is based in New York City.
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