

Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast
David Santistevan: Worship Leader, Blogger, Teacher
David Santistevan from the popular davidsantistevan.com blog dives into the heart of worship leading, worship ministry, songwriting, and making disciples. Discover how you can take your worship leadership to the next level through practical teaching, expert interviews, and the latest resources for worship leaders. From developing a discipleship strategy, engaging your congregation, writing your own songs, leading your best worship, and so much more, this podcast will help you become the worship leader you are called to be.
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Jun 26, 2023 • 60min
#292: Jonsal & Jenna Barrientes from Elevation Worship
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft.
This year’s special guest is 15-time GRAMMY Award winner and gospel music’s most highly decorated female artist CeCe Winans, along with Members of the Bethel Music Collective: Brian + Jenn Johnson, Josh Baldwin, Paul + Hannah McClure, Kristene DiMarco, David Funk, and more.
Guest speakers this year are Bill Johnson and Ray Hughes + more to be announced in the coming weeks.
Over the course of five days, you will have the opportunity to attend over 50 classes led by teachers who are experts of their field ranging from worship leading and songwriting to music publishing and studio production.
This is an incredible opportunity to invest in your worship leader, your worship team, growing and expanding your skills and encountering God with other like-minded leaders.
Beyond Sunday listeners will get $75 off their registration when they use code BEYOND75.Just head on over to bethelmusic.com/worshipschool and use BEYOND75 for $75 off your registration.
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
Topics Covered:
Elevation Nights tour
Pop-up church experiment at Elevation
The influence & growth of Elevation Worship
The songwriting/collaborative culture at Elevation
They congregational style of Elevation’s past few albums
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School – July 17-21 (use code BEYOND75 to get $75 off your registration)
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Jesse Reeves Interview
Craig Dunnagan Interview
Can You Imagine? by Elevation Worship
Elevation Nights
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Jun 16, 2023 • 1h 6min
#291: Graham Kendrick on Early CCM, Songwriting, & Diversity in Worship Music [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft.
This year’s special guest is 15-time GRAMMY Award winner and gospel music’s most highly decorated female artist CeCe Winans, along with Members of the Bethel Music Collective: Brian + Jenn Johnson, Josh Baldwin, Paul + Hannah McClure, Kristene DiMarco, David Funk, and more.
Guest speakers this year are Bill Johnson and Ray Hughes + more to be announced in the coming weeks.
Over the course of five days, you will have the opportunity to attend over 50 classes led by teachers who are experts of their field ranging from worship leading and songwriting to music publishing and studio production.
This is an incredible opportunity to invest in your worship leader, your worship team, growing and expanding your skills and encountering God with other like-minded leaders.
Beyond Sunday listeners will get $75 off their registration when they use code BEYOND75.Just head on over to bethelmusic.com/worshipschool and use BEYOND75 for $75 off your registration.
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
Topics Covered:
The evolution of full time Worship Leaders/Pastors
Worship leading in the 1960s & 1970s
The founding of Spring Harvest in the 1980s
The transition from head to heart in congregational singing
The impact of genre on lopsided praise & worship music
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School – July 17-21 (use code BEYOND75 to get $75 off your registration)
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Graham Kendrick
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Jun 7, 2023 • 49min
#290: Hannah Hobbs on Songwriting for the Church [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft.
This year’s special guest is 15-time GRAMMY Award winner and gospel music’s most highly decorated female artist CeCe Winans, along with Members of the Bethel Music Collective: Brian + Jenn Johnson, Josh Baldwin, Paul + Hannah McClure, Kristene DiMarco, David Funk, and more.
Guest speakers this year are Bill Johnson and Ray Hughes + more to be announced in the coming weeks.
Over the course of five days, you will have the opportunity to attend over 50 classes led by teachers who are experts of their field ranging from worship leading and songwriting to music publishing and studio production.
This is an incredible opportunity to invest in your worship leader, your worship team, growing and expanding your skills and encountering God with other like-minded leaders.
Beyond Sunday listeners will get $75 off their registration when they use code BEYOND75.Just head on over to bethelmusic.com/worshipschool and use BEYOND75 for $75 off your registration.
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
Topics Covered
Classical training
Scheduling creativity
Songwriting influences
Songwriting for the Church
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School – July 17-21 (use code BEYOND75 to get $75 off your registration)
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Sundown by Hannah Hobbs
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May 27, 2023 • 1h 22min
#289: David Ruis on Spirit & Truth Worship Versus Relevance and Popularity
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft.
This year’s special guest is 15-time GRAMMY Award winner and gospel music’s most highly decorated female artist CeCe Winans, along with Members of the Bethel Music Collective: Brian + Jenn Johnson, Josh Baldwin, Paul + Hannah McClure, Kristene DiMarco, David Funk, and more.
Guest speakers this year are Bill Johnson and Ray Hughes + more to be announced in the coming weeks.
Over the course of five days, you will have the opportunity to attend over 50 classes led by teachers who are experts of their field ranging from worship leading and songwriting to music publishing and studio production.
This is an incredible opportunity to invest in your worship leader, your worship team, growing and expanding your skills and encountering God with other like-minded leaders.
Beyond Sunday listeners will get $75 off their registration when they use code BEYOND75.Just head on over to bethelmusic.com/worshipschool and use BEYOND75 for $75 off your registration.
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
Topics Covered:
Cultural relevance defined
A vision and definition of creativity in the church
Spirit and truth versus relevance and popularity
The era of 80s & 90s Vineyard Worship and its spread around the world
Why Vineyard Music saw an eventual decline in popularity
The fundamental difference between worship and entertainment
Worship songs and the money that is made
The difference between inspiration and imitation
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School – July 17-21 (use code BEYOND75 to get $75 off your registration)
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Sweet Mercies by David Ruis
The Mystery by Vineyard Music
Shake Off the Dust by Vineyard Canada
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May 18, 2023 • 54min
#288: Stockholm Worship on Recording a Live Album, Creativity in the Church, & Song Stories
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft.
This year’s special guest is 15-time GRAMMY Award winner and gospel music’s most highly decorated female artist CeCe Winans, along with Members of the Bethel Music Collective: Brian + Jenn Johnson, Josh Baldwin, Paul + Hannah McClure, Kristene DiMarco, David Funk, and more.
Guest speakers this year are Bill Johnson and Ray Hughes + more to be announced in the coming weeks.
Over the course of five days, you will have the opportunity to attend over 50 classes led by teachers who are experts of their field ranging from worship leading and songwriting to music publishing and studio production.
This is an incredible opportunity to invest in your worship leader, your worship team, growing and expanding your skills and encountering God with other like-minded leaders.
Beyond Sunday listeners will get $75 off their registration when they use code BEYOND75. Just head on over to bethelmusic.com/worshipschool and use BEYOND75 for $75 off your registration.
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
Topics Covered:
Creativity in the local church – how to balance it
The tension of worship music and music business
Serving the Church
Songwriting in the context of a team
Recording a live worship album vs a studio album
Tips for recording a live worship album
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School – July 17-21 (use code BEYOND75 to get $75 off your registration)
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Hillsong Worship on Healthy Team Culture, Leadership, Songwriting, & the New Album
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May 10, 2023 • 1h 9min
#287: Jesse Reeves on The Priesthood of Believers, Simple Songs, & The Dangers of Being a Professional Christian [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
What You’ll Learn:
Jesse’s salvation story & music journey
The surprising story behind Jesse connecting with Chris Tomlin
The co-writing of How Great is Our God
Why Jesse quit going to church
The dangers of professional ministry
The priesthood of believers and what that means for the Church
House Churches
The reason for minimal production on KingsPorch albums
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
KingsPorch
God is in This House by KingsPorch
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Apr 26, 2023 • 31min
#286: Emmy Rose on Theme Writing, Bethel Music, & Knowing Who You Are [Podcast]
What You’ll Learn:
Emmy’s story into worship leading and becoming a part of the Bethel family
Songwriting in community
Lyric writing & Theme writing
Being a son or a daughter of God
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Come Up Here by Bethel Music
Inheritance by Emmy Rose
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
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Apr 6, 2023 • 48min
#285: Matt Redman on Visionary Songwriting, Co-writing, and His New Album, “Lamb of God” [Podcast]
Topics of Conversation
Visionary songwriting and how it can help you focus your writing
God centered lyrics
The power of co-writing
Pickleball
Soccer
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Lamb of God by Matt Redman
The Friendship and the Fear by Matt Redman
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
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Mar 29, 2023 • 33min
#284: Zahriya Zachary on Leading Worship, Writing Songs, & Bethel Music’s New Project [Podcast]
What You’ll Learn:
The power of an encouraging word
Leading worship in different denominational environments
The story behind writing “Surrounded by Holy”
Favorite songs from “Come Up Here”
Coaching young worship leaders
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Come up Here by Bethel Music
Surrounded By Holy by Zahriya Zachary
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
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Mar 17, 2023 • 46min
#283: Brett Younker on Training Young Worship Leaders, Passion Conference, & Preparing to Lead Worship [Podcast]
What You’ll Learn:
What it takes to pull off a Passion Conference
The theological movement that is Passion
Our favorite Passion records from days gone by
Preparing as a worship leader
How to develop young worship leaders
Leading worship in different environments – from small groups to arenas
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
I’ve Witnessed It by Passion Music
Better is One Day by Passion Music
The Road to One Day by Passion Music
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free access to another incredibly powerful product People?
With People, you can do things like create a volunteer pipeline to get new volunteers through their application process and then assigned to a team!
In People you can create an online form to get new volunteers, a workflow to help you walk them step-by-step through the training process, and then automatically add them to Services so you can get them scheduled!
And that’s just one way you use Planning Center People, so give it a try! Learn more at planningcenter.com/pipeline
And remember, if your church is looking for tools to help with things like giving, small group chat, event signups, live-streaming, and custom reporting, Planning Center has tools for that too, so let your church administrator know!
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