

Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast
David Santistevan: Worship Leader, Blogger, Teacher
David Santistevan from the popular davidsantistevan.com blog dives into the heart of worship leading, worship ministry, songwriting, and making disciples. Discover how you can take your worship leadership to the next level through practical teaching, expert interviews, and the latest resources for worship leaders. From developing a discipleship strategy, engaging your congregation, writing your own songs, leading your best worship, and so much more, this podcast will help you become the worship leader you are called to be.
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Oct 26, 2018 • 24min
#192: Austin French on Worship, Songwriting, & Redemption Stories [Podcast]
I remember writing in my journal, ‘I will never be a Christian.'” – Austin French
So fun to welcome Austin French to the podcast. Austin is a worship leader and a new singer/songwriter to the CCM scene. I particularly loved Austin’s story of how he came to faith after being so hurt by the church.
We talk about the new record, leading worship, songwriting, and more.
Enjoy!
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Show Sponsor
This episode is brought to you by the Pads Live app from Coresound Pads.
Coresound Pads are my favorite pad loops on the market. If you’re looking for a way to raise the quality and sound of your worship team, this is probably the easiest way to do that.
And Coresound now has a powerful, easy-to-use pads-player app called PADS LIVE that helps you transform your worship service’s atmosphere INSTANTLY by downloading and playing their top-rated pad loops on the fly from your mobile device. This is an POWERFUL tool for worship leaders at any-size church.
If you go to PadsLive.com, you can link to download the app for FREE, which also comes with all of Coresound’s Pads in the key of D for free. You can let the pads loop infinitely, crossfade gently into the next pad or into silence, and build songs & playlists. And when you’re ready to unlock all 12 keys instead of just the key of D, you can purchase and download those pads directly within the app.
Now the app doesn’t take promo codes, BUT if you buy a Pads Bundle online from Coresound and use the promo code BEYONDSUNDAY, you’ll get an additional 20% off your purchase. And your online purchase WILL unlock those very same pads within the app, as well as let you download the 20-minute MP3s to use the pads elsewhere.
In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
What recovery can teach us about worship
Austin’s new record
Songwriting and the power of collaboration
Leading worship
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Coresound Pads
Music: Wide Open by Austin French
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If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Austin? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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Oct 12, 2018 • 35min
#191: Mack Brock on New Songs, New Seasons, & The Calling of a Worship Leader [Podcast]
Great to welcome Mack Brock back to the podcast. Mack is an incredible worship leader, songwriter, and producer. Formerly from Elevation Worship, Mack has embarked on a new season in his life.
In this episode, we talk all about that transition, working at Elevation, new seasons, songwriting, song stories, working with Rita Springer, Ableton Live, and more.
Enjoy!
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Show Sponsor
This episode is brought to you by the Pads Live app from Coresound Pads.
Coresound Pads are my favorite pad loops on the market. If you’re looking for a way to raise the quality and sound of your worship team, this is probably the easiest way to do that.
And Coresound now has a powerful, easy-to-use pads-player app called PADS LIVE that helps you transform your worship service’s atmosphere INSTANTLY by downloading and playing their top-rated pad loops on the fly from your mobile device. This is an POWERFUL tool for worship leaders at any-size church.
If you go to PadsLive.com, you can link to download the app for FREE, which also comes with all of Coresound’s Pads in the key of D for free. You can let the pads loop infinitely, crossfade gently into the next pad or into silence, and build songs & playlists. And when you’re ready to unlock all 12 keys instead of just the key of D, you can purchase and download those pads directly within the app.
Now the app doesn’t take promo codes, BUT if you buy a Pads Bundle online from Coresound and use the promo code BEYONDSUNDAY, you’ll get an additional 20% off your purchase. And your online purchase WILL unlock those very same pads within the app, as well as let you download the 20-minute MP3s to use the pads elsewhere.
In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
New seasons
How Do it Again has been an anthem for Mack
Why worship leaders need to lead with authority
The story behind Mack’s transition from Elevation Church
Trusting God in the midst of doubt and uncertainty
Moving out of the producer’s chair
Using Ableton Live for creativity, not just a utility
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Coresound Pads
Music: Greater Things by Mack Brock
Podcast: Phil Wickham on the Songwriting Process
Software: Ableton Live
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If you have an idea for a podcast you would like to see, a special guest you’d like to hear from, or a question for an upcoming episode, please email me.
If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Mack? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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Sep 28, 2018 • 51min
#190: John Mark McMillan on Metaphors, Creative Process, & New Music [Podcast]
There’s always trends, but a good instrument, played well, with a good melody, will almost always be relevant.” – John Mark McMillan
There’s something inspiring about sitting down with a seasoned songwriting veteran in his prime. John Mark McMillan is a legend with no signs of slowing down. His music keeps getting better.
My first interview with John Mark was one of my favorites of all time. His perspective on creativity, honesty, and a flat-out love for music is so inspiring. And this conversation doesn’t disappoint.
We talk about his new projects, upcoming projects, metaphorical vs direct songwriting, new instruments, touring, and so much more.
Enjoy!
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Show Sponsor
This episode is brought to you by the Pads Live app from Coresound Pads.
Coresound Pads are my favorite pad loops on the market. If you’re looking for a way to raise the quality and sound of your worship team, this is probably the easiest way to do that.
And Coresound now has a powerful, easy-to-use pads-player app called PADS LIVE that helps you transform your worship service’s atmosphere INSTANTLY by downloading and playing their top-rated pad loops on the fly from your mobile device. This is an POWERFUL tool for worship leaders at any-size church.
If you go to PadsLive.com, you can link to download the app for FREE, which also comes with all of Coresound’s Pads in the key of D for free. You can let the pads loop infinitely, crossfade gently into the next pad or into silence, and build songs & playlists. And when you’re ready to unlock all 12 keys instead of just the key of D, you can purchase and download those pads directly within the app.
Now the app doesn’t take promo codes, BUT if you buy a Pads Bundle online from Coresound and use the promo code BEYONDSUNDAY, you’ll get an additional 20% off your purchase. And your online purchase WILL unlock those very same pads within the app, as well as let you download the 20-minute MP3s to use the pads elsewhere.
In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
Staying busy and productive as an artist.
What JMM would have done if music didn’t work out.
The creative process behind the new record Mercury & Lightning
What is was like to work with producer Gabriel Wilson
An instrument called a guqin and why it inspired the new record.
The power of abstract and very direct lyrics.
Why JMM decided to do the Mercury Sessions & the Lightning Sessions.
What is next for JMM and his new projects.
The tension between writing worship songs and singer/songwriter songs.
Songwriting gear setup.
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Coresound Pads
Website: John Mark McMillan
Music: Mercury & Lightning by John Mark McMillan
Music: The Medicine 10th Anniversary Edition by John Mark McMillan
Music: The Mercury Sessions
Music: The Lightning Sessions
Podcast: Music Production, Songwriting, & Moving Gods Heart: An Interview with Gabriel Wilson
Podcast: Gabriel Wilson on Being a Pro Musician, Intentional Practice, & Creativity in the Church
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If you have an idea for a podcast you would like to see, a special guest you’d like to hear from, or a question for an upcoming episode, please email me.
If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with John Mark? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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Sep 8, 2018 • 43min
#189: Phil Wickham on The Songwriting Process [Podcast]
When it comes to finding great songs for church, look no further than Phil Wickham. Phil’s songs have a theological depth and pop sensibility that get stuck in your head like no other. His new record, Living Hope, might be his best yet.
So I wanted to bring Phil on the show to talk about his journey, running, his local church, songwriting, and whatever else we talk about. It’s a good one, folks.
Enjoy!
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Show Sponsor
This episode is brought to you by the Pads Live app from Coresound Pads.
Coresound Pads are my favorite pad loops on the market. If you’re looking for a way to raise the quality and sound of your worship team, this is probably the easiest way to do that.
And Coresound now has a powerful, easy-to-use pads-player app called PADS LIVE that helps you transform your worship service’s atmosphere INSTANTLY by downloading and playing their top-rated pad loops on the fly from your mobile device. This is an POWERFUL tool for worship leaders at any-size church.
If you go to PadsLive.com, you can link to download the app for FREE, which also comes with all of Coresound’s Pads in the key of D for free. You can let the pads loop infinitely, crossfade gently into the next pad or into silence, and build songs & playlists. And when you’re ready to unlock all 12 keys instead of just the key of D, you can purchase and download those pads directly within the app.
Now the app doesn’t take promo codes, BUT if you buy a Pads Bundle online from Coresound and use the promo code BEYONDSUNDAY, you’ll get an additional 20% off your purchase. And your online purchase WILL unlock those very same pads within the app, as well as let you download the 20-minute MP3s to use the pads elsewhere.
In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
The litmus test for a great song.
The story behind the writing of Living Hope.
What it takes to write great songs.
Casting a vision for the songs you write.
Phil’s gear and home songwriting setup.
The intersection between songwriter, artist, & producer.
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Show Sponsor: Coresound Pads
Music: Living Hope by Phil Wickham
Gear: Apollo Twin by Universal Audio
Gear: Manley Reference Cardioid Microhpone
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If you have an idea for a podcast you would like to see, a special guest you’d like to hear from, or a question for an upcoming episode, please email me.
If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Phil? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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Aug 24, 2018 • 53min
#188: Pat Barrett On Faith, Spontaneous Worship, & Stepping Out [Podcast]
There’s something about Pat Barrett’s voice and songs that have a re-centering effect – they call us to focus on what matters. Listening to his music makes me want to pick up the pen and write with a similar honesty, depth, and melodic sensibility.
A lot has happened since Pat was on the show a few years ago. We talk about life transition, new songs, memes, instagram accounts, worship leading, and more.
Enjoy!
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In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
Embarrassing worship leader moments
The meaning of faith
The songwriting process of “Into Faith I Go”
Story behind the album production
Honesty and vulnerability in worship
A philosophy of spontaneous worship
Resources Mentioned:
Music: Pat Barrett
Podcast: Housefires Music, Intimate Worship, & Making Space for God in Your Gatherings
Podcast: Alisa Turner on Pain, Loss, & Singing Through it All
Music: Faith by Jason Upton
Instagram: @patbarrett
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If you have an idea for a podcast you would like to see, a special guest you’d like to hear from, or a question for an upcoming episode, please email me.
If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Pat? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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Aug 3, 2018 • 48min
#187: Alisa Turner On Pain, Loss, & Singing Through It All [Podcast]
Sometimes I wonder how the people who walk through the greatest sorrow have the most joy. And then I’m reminded that’s how God works. He’s faithful. He’s good. He doesn’t promise the road will be easy but He promises to satisfy our souls.
This is the story of Alisa Turner, a true fighter who has weathered so many storms and lived to sing about it. Her new record Miracle Or Not is a beautiful testament to God’s faithfulness.
In this interview we talk about all she’s gone through, the new record, cows (yes), and the goodness of God. If you’re feeling lost, alone, or without hope (or walking with someone who is), this is for you.
Enjoy!
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In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
Alisa’s journey as a worship leader
Cows and running (yep)
How to worship while you wait for a miracle
Dealing with the pain of loss
The hustle of pursuing a career in the music industry
Dealing with the pain of sickness
How to improve as a worship leader and vocalist
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Website: Alisa Turner
Music: Miracle or Not by Alisa Turner
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If you have an idea for a podcast you would like to see, a special guest you’d like to hear from, or a question for an upcoming episode, please email me.
If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Alisa? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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Jul 2, 2018 • 46min
#186: Fred Vassallo on Leading Kids in Worship & Unleashing Creativity in the Next Generation [Podcast]
There is no junior Holy Spirit. The same God that is the God of the adults is the God of the youth.” – Fred Vassallo
It was a treat to welcome Fred Vassallo on the podcast this week. Fred is the Creative Director of Bright Ones, the youth & kids extension of Bethel Music.
As a hip hop choreographer and dance instructor, he knows a lot about vision, creativity, and empowering young people.
To be honest, all my kids want to listen to his Bethel Kids. I’ll try to make them listen to my music, but still all they want…is Bethel Kids. Which is saying a lot. Fred has captured something special here. And the creativity is only beginning.
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In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
Fred’s journey with Bethel Music
How to foster creativity in kids
The power of dance
The rebranding from Bethel Kids to Bright Ones
How to help kids engage in worship
Creating a worship culture for kids
Why we need to create good music that connects to culture
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Music: Bright Ones
Music: Come Alive by Bethel Kids
Music: Bethel Music Kids Christmas Party
Instagram: @brightones_
Website: bethelmusic.com/brightones
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If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Harvest? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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Jun 6, 2018 • 42min
#185: Harvest Bashta on Celebrity Worship, Going Deep, & Getting Real [Podcast]
This is an urgent call for worship leaders to drop their idea of fame and glory and get on their face and seek God. He’ll use that more than a pretty voice.” – Harvest Bashta
A record that I have been playing a lot of is Harvest Bashta’s Preachers. There’s something about the simply, rich vibe that draws me in and calls me to attention. It’s delicate, yet bold. Easy, yet intense.
I wanted to get Harvest on the show to talk about her experience as a worship leader and songwriter. The answers were surprising. Don’t miss this one!
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In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
Why singing isn’t enough
What we need more of in our singers & worship leaders
The influence of Rita Springer on Harvest’s sound & calling
Production thoughts – why Harvest’s record is quiet and contemplative
Why every song you write should also be a sermon
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Music: Preachers by Harvest
Podcast: Introducing the Beyond Sunday Podcast: An Interview with Daniel Bashta
Podcast: Daniel Bashta on Timeless Truth, Dreaming Through Disappointment, & Becoming More Fascinated by God
Instagram @harvestbashta
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If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Harvest? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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May 19, 2018 • 36min
#184: Jen Ledger on Living For the Kingdom of God, Skillet, & Stepping Out [Podcast]
I am a fan of cheap breakfast. I am not a fan of the gourmet, 16 doller, grass-fed french toast.” – Jen Ledger
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Show Sponsor
This episode is brought to you by the Pads Live app from Coresound Pads.
Coresound Pads are my favorite pad loops on the market. If you’re looking for a way to raise the quality and sound of your worship team, this is probably the easiest way to do that.
And Coresound now has a powerful, easy-to-use pads-player app called PADS LIVE that helps you transform your worship service’s atmosphere INSTANTLY by downloading and playing their top-rated pad loops on the fly from your mobile device. This is an POWERFUL tool for worship leaders at any-size church.
If you go to PadsLive.com, you can link to download the app for FREE, which also comes with all of Coresound’s Pads in the key of D for free. You can let the pads loop infinitely, crossfade gently into the next pad or into silence, and build songs & playlists. And when you’re ready to unlock all 12 keys instead of just the key of D, you can purchase and download those pads directly within the app.
Now the app doesn’t take promo codes, BUT if you buy a Pads Bundle online from Coresound and use the promo code BEYONDSUNDAY, you’ll get an additional 20% off your purchase. And your online purchase WILL unlock those very same pads within the app, as well as let you download the 20-minute MP3s to use the pads elsewhere.
In this Episode You’ll Learn About:
How Jen developed confidence at such a young age, after joining Skillet at 17 years old.
Jen’s secret, favorite breakfast spot.
What it takes to be a musician artists want to hire.
The best way to stay healthy in the midst of a grueling schedule.
Why Jen decided to launch out on a new solo career.
Cultivating a passion for the Kingdom of God beyond pursuing a dream.
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Show Sponsor: Pads Live by Coresound
Music: Ledger EP
Music: Rise by Skillet
Twitter: @jenledger
Instagram: @jenledger
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If you have an idea for a podcast you would like to see, a special guest you’d like to hear from, or a question for an upcoming episode, please email me.
If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Jen? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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May 11, 2018 • 48min
#183: Andi Rozier on Vertical Worship, Discipleship, & Why You Should Write Songs [Podcast]
God doesn’t want you to write songs to bless the Church, he wants you to write songs to spend time with you.” – Andi Rozier
I love Andi Rozier and what he has built with Vertical Worship. Vertical is an extension of the worship ministry at Harvest Bible Chapel in Chicago and for years, Andi has lead the charge.
His team leads so strong and writes some of the best songs for the church. This is a reflection on Andi and his leadership. He empowers others. He loves the church. He pastors. He loves people. This is what is needed out of our worship pastors. We can’t just have a passion for writing songs and making music. We need to love the people.
And Andi challenges us in this interview where we discuss leading a team, gaining momentum, writing songs, and more.
Enjoy!
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Show Sponsor
This episode is brought to you by the Pads Live app from Coresound Pads.
Coresound Pads are my favorite pad loops on the market. If you’re looking for a way to raise the quality and sound of your worship team, this is probably the easiest way to do that.
And Coresound now has a powerful, easy-to-use pads-player app called PADS LIVE that helps you transform your worship service’s atmosphere INSTANTLY by downloading and playing their top-rated pad loops on the fly from your mobile device. This is an POWERFUL tool for worship leaders at any-size church.
If you go to PadsLive.com, you can link to download the app for FREE, which also comes with all of Coresound’s Pads in the key of D for free. You can let the pads loop infinitely, crossfade gently into the next pad or into silence, and build songs & playlists. And when you’re ready to unlock all 12 keys instead of just the key of D, you can purchase and download those pads directly within the app.
Now the app doesn’t take promo codes, BUT if you buy a Pads Bundle online from Coresound and use the promo code BEYONDSUNDAY, you’ll get an additional 20% off your purchase. And your online purchase WILL unlock those very same pads within the app, as well as let you download the 20-minute MP3s to use the pads elsewhere.
In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
Andi’s journey of worship & worship leading
Why the worship ministry isn’t the discipleship ministry of the church
Tips for multisite worship departments
The “It” factor that makes song easy to learn
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Show Sponsor: Pads Live from Coresound
Music: Bright Faith Bold Future by Vertical Worship
Podcast: Creating a Culture of Collaboration: An Interview with Vertical Church Band
Podcast: How to Build and Lead an Effective Worship Set with Vertical Church Band
Twitter: @andirozier
Twitter: @verticalworship
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If you have an idea for a podcast you would like to see, a special guest you’d like to hear from, or a question for an upcoming episode, please email me.
If you enjoyed the show, I would be so appreciative if you would rate it on iTunes and write a brief review. That helps me so much! Thanks.
Question: What was your biggest takeaway from this interview with Andi? You can leave a comment by clicking here.
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