
Hack the Plant
Electricity. Finance. Transportation. Our water supply. In Hack the Plant, podcast host Bryson Bort looks for answers to the question: Does connecting these systems, and others, to the internet leaves us more vulnerable to attacks by our enemies? We often take these critical infrastructure systems for granted, but they’re all becoming increasingly dependent on the internet to function. From the ransomware threats of Colonial Pipeline to the failure of the Texas power grid, it is clear our interconnectivity is also a significant source of risk. Hack the Plant walks through the world of hackers working on the front lines of cyber security and public safety to protect the systems you rely upon every day.
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Latest episodes

Jun 10, 2025 • 31min
Old Systems, New Threats
Bryson Bort is joined by Jim Montgomery, Director, Industrial Cybersecurity Solutions at TXOne Networks. TXOne provides network-based and endpoint-based products to tackle security vulnerabilities across industrial environments. With decades of IT security experience, Jim now leads TXOne’s work protecting Operational Technology environments across critical sectors like automotive, oil and gas, pharma, manufacturing, and semiconductors.How can we defend against threats that are already embedded within our systems? What are the most immediate and significant risks facing our critical infrastructure today? And how can operators begin to secure their networks? “Let's start with the basics. Let's start with understanding. Let's start with making it hard to get into your environment, and let's start discouraging that type of behavior from attacking your environment,” Jim said. Join us for this and more on this episode of Hack the Plan[e]t. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast represent those of the speaker, and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of their employers. Hack the Plant is brought to you by ICS Village and the Institute for Security and Technology.

May 13, 2025 • 34min
The Truth About OT Vulnerabilities
Bryson Bort sits down with Adam Robbie, Head of OT Threat Research at Palo Alto Networks, to pull back the curtain on OT threat research. With a background in electrical engineering, Adam’s first job in cybersecurity was at an IT help desk. He now leads a team dedicated to identifying, analyzing, and mitigating cyber threats targeting Operational Technology (OT) environments.What are the top threats Adam is seeing in OT attacks? Why is manufacturing such a vulnerable sector? And if he could wave a magic, non-Internet connected wand, what would he change? “I really would love to have more experts in OT,” Adam said. “The more knowledge…and the more experts we have, it will fasten this process [of innovation].” Join us for this and more on this episode of Hack the Plan[e]t. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast represent those of the speaker, and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of their employers. Hack the Plant is brought to you by ICS Village and the Institute for Security and Technology.

Apr 8, 2025 • 34min
Bridging the Cybersecurity Resource Gap
Bryson Bort welcomes Sarah Powazek, Program Director of Public Interest Cybersecurity at the UC Berkeley Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity, to discuss the organization’s work providing cybersecurity resources for the public, and CyberCAN, a project to connect cities and nonprofits providing critical services. How can cities play a larger role in protecting their communities? What are the biggest cybersecurity challenges facing nonprofits? What innovative solutions are being developed to address the cybersecurity resource gap? “It's never going to be enough to have one federal agency help every single organization in a country. We're just too large,” Sarah said. “I think the solution is to create more infrastructure at the state, local, and regional level.”Join us for this and more on this episode of Hack the Plan[e]t. Hack the Plan[e]t is brought to you by ICS Village and the Institute for Security and Technology.

Mar 11, 2025 • 40min
Preparing for Unnatural Disasters
Welcome to season 5! Our host Bryson Bort sits down with Institute for Security and Technology (IST) Executive in Residence for Public Safety & Security Josh Corman. Josh previously joined us on season 1, episode 2 to discuss his experience founding I Am The Cavalry, a grassroots organization focused on the intersection of digital security, public safety, and human life. Today, Josh walks us through his Cyber Civil Defense initiative UnDisruptable27 and his work to bolster the resilience of local critical infrastructure systems. What role can you play in making our communities more resilient? What risks do we face from a hybrid conflict? How can we better prepare for disruptions to critical infrastructure? “You inform, influence, inspire. You make sure people aren't blindsided, and even if they can't stop the natural disaster, they can at least prepare for it and make informed decisions and innovate locally,” Josh said. “And unlike natural disasters, where we only have a couple hurricanes a year, we may have concurrent unnatural disasters on plural U.S. infrastructure sites across the country with finite resources to respond and recover.”Join us for this and more on this episode of Hack the Plan[e]t. Hack the Plan[e]t is brought to you by ICS Village and the Institute for Security and Technology.

Feb 28, 2025 • 23min
From the Archives
For the final episode of the season, our host Bryson Bort reflects on four years and forty episodes of Hack the Plan[e]t, and picks a few favorites. Episode 8, DoD and Critical Infrastructure: https://hack-the-plant.simplecast.com/episodes/dod-and-critical-infrastructureEpisode 10, The Congressman, The Commission and Our Critical Infrastructure: https://hack-the-plant.simplecast.com/episodes/the-congressman-the-commission-and-our-critical-infrastructureEpisode 27, Managing Incident Responses to Critical Infrastructure Attacks: https://hack-the-plant.simplecast.com/episodes/managing-incident-responses-to-critical-infrastructure-attacksEpisode 28, Cyber Threat Intelligence Over the Past 25 Years: https://hack-the-plant.simplecast.com/episodes/cyber-threat-intelligence-over-the-past-25-yearsEpisode 36, Supporting Ukrainian Electrical Grid Resilience in Wartime: https://hack-the-plant.simplecast.com/episodes/supporting-ukrainian-electrical-grid-resilience-in-wartime-mxxhn2g3Hack the Plant is brought to you by ICS Village and the Institute for Security and Technology.

Feb 3, 2025 • 31min
Protecting Critical Infrastructure for Rural Electric Cooperatives
Carter Manucy, Director of Cybersecurity at the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association, is a leading voice in safeguarding electric cooperatives. He discusses the pressing cybersecurity challenges these rural cooperatives face, especially in modernizing infrastructure affordably. Carter emphasizes the need for collaboration through initiatives like Project Guardian and the Cyber Mutual Assistance Program to strengthen cybersecurity culture. He also reflects on the future of cybersecurity and the importance of uniting efforts to protect our critical energy systems.

Nov 26, 2024 • 28min
Reliability and Risks of the North American Power Grid
Sara Patrick, President and CEO of the Midwest Reliability Organization, shares her insights on the vulnerabilities of North America's power grid. She discusses the escalating cyber threats and how smaller organizations can fortify themselves against risks. Sara emphasizes the growing role of artificial intelligence in grid reliability, warning of its dual-use nature. She also highlights the transition from compliance to operational excellence in ensuring a resilient energy infrastructure. Tune in for vital strategies to safeguard our power systems!

Sep 25, 2024 • 31min
Securing Embedded Systems
In this episode, Bryson sits down with MITRE EMB3D co-founder Niyo Little Thunder Pearson. For nearly 20 years, Niyo has been at the forefront of protecting critical infrastructure systems. He previously led incident response for American Express, directing the company’s Security Operations Center during the LulzSec and Anonymous attacks, and worked to develop an adversarial cyber defense program for the nation’s third largest gas utility at ONE Gas Oklahoma. Now, Niyo has co-founded MITRE EMB3D, a groundbreaking global threat network aimed at enhancing the security of embedded devices. What is MITRE EMB3D? Who is the intended audience? What problems is it trying to solve? “There is such a gap that exists today on what we understand and how risk averse these [embedded] devices are. They do well and they operate well. They're built for what they're doing in a safety context, but the security was never brought forward with it,” Niyo said. Join us for this and more on this episode of Hack the Plan[e]t. Hack the Plant is brought to you by ICS Village and the Institute for Security and Technology.

Jul 23, 2024 • 42min
The Case For A Cyber Force
In this episode, Bryson sits down with Mark Montgomery, Senior Director at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. For three years, Mark served as Executive Director of the Cyberspace Solarium Commission, created by congressional mandate to develop strategic approaches to defending against cyber attacks. Now, he directs CSC 2.0, an initiative that works to implement the recommendations of the Commission. What were the key recommendations of the Cyberspace Solarium Commission? What are the politics of cybersecurity? How do we ensure that our international partners have the same level of resiliency and recovery that we have domestically? “We'd like to fight our adversaries overseas. That means we have to fight with and through our allies and partners. So they have to have strong critical infrastructure as our forces arrive and execute their missions,” Mark said. Join us for this and more on this episode of Hack the Plan[e]t. Hack the Plant is brought to you by ICS Village and the Institute for Security and Technology.

Jun 21, 2024 • 32min
Supporting Ukrainian Electrical Grid Resilience in Wartime
Joe Marshall is a Senior IoT Security Strategist at Cisco Talos Intelligence Group. When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, Joe helped coordinate a multinational, multi-company coalition of volunteers and experts to find a technological solution. Bryson and Joe sat down to discuss his efforts in Ukraine, how he got the go-ahead from Cisco leadership, and more. “They were like, yeah, we can't even get accurate timing to work on our transmission grid because of jamming that is interrupting GPS communications,” Joe explains. “A week later I was sitting in my office and I went, ‘I wonder if we have something inside of Cisco that can actually help with this.’” Join us for this and more on this episode of Hack the Plan[e]t. Hack the Plant is brought to you by ICS Village and the Institute for Security and Technology.