
Audience 1st
Welcome to Audience 1st. A podcast for tech marketers looking to break out of the echo chamber to better understand their audience and turn them into loyal customers. Every week, Dani Woolf is having brutally honest conversations with busy tech buyers about what really motivates them, the things they hate that vendors do, and what you can do about it. You’ll get access to practical information on how to build authentic relationships with your audience, listen to and talk with your buyers, and apply real customer insights to your strategies and tactics. You owe it to the world to unmute your mic. Are you ready?
Latest episodes

Jun 6, 2025 • 48min
From Cost Center to Growth Driver: The CFO’s Playbook for Cloud Security ROI
For years, security has been treated as a necessary evil - a budget line item that CFOs approve without truly understanding its business impact. But what if cloud security could be a revenue driver, an efficiency enabler, and a cost-saving powerhouse?
In this episode, Dani Woolf sat down with Chris Thomas, Chief Revenue Officer at AlgoSec, to break down how CFOs should really evaluate cloud security investments, not just as a defensive measure, but as a business accelerator.
They dove into the cost of inaction, the inefficiencies draining budgets, and the financial case for security automation - all from a CFO’s perspective. If you’re still treating security as an overhead cost, this conversation will change the way you think about it.
To get a demo of AlgoSec, visit: https://www.algosec.com/lp/request-a-demo

May 30, 2025 • 51min
Why the vCISO Model Is More Than a Stopgap for Organizations Looking for Security Leadership
In this milestone 100th (and birthday!) episode of Audience 1st Podcast, Dani Woolf is joined by veteran cybersecurity leader David Doyle from DirectDefense for a brutally honest conversation about what’s broken in today’s security leadership models and how the rise of the vCISO is more than just a stopgap.
Together, they unpack the myths, power dynamics, and misaligned expectations that drive burnout, stall progress, and keep companies from building real security maturity.
This episode is a blueprint for cybersecurity executives, CISOs, and vCISOs who are serious about designing resilient organizations that can lead through complexity.
You’ll Learn:
1. The real reason CISOs are burning out and why it’s not just about stress
2. How most orgs misunderstand the vCISO role (and end up wasting budget)
3. When to bring in a vCISO and how to avoid hiring the wrong one
4. Why CISOs and vCISOs should be tag-teaming, not competing
5. How to measure progress beyond compliance and build a culture of strategic leadership
6. What makes a good vCISO indispensable, not replaceable
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Learn more about CyberSynapse and qualitative buyer research

May 23, 2025 • 58min
The GTM Gauntlet in Cybersecurity: What We're Still Getting Wrong | Authenticated by Confide
In this special episode of Authenticated, Confide brings together a powerhouse panel of security operators, marketers, and founders to dissect the brutal realities of go-to-market in cybersecurity. From failed conference booth investments to relationship-first community building, this conversation goes deep on why most vendors still miss the mark, and what it actually takes to build trust with today’s security buyers.
Whether you’re a CISO, product marketer, founder, or GTM leader in security, this episode cuts through the noise with raw, unfiltered truths about what works, what backfires, and where the future of security GTM is headed.
Key Themes We Cover
Why cybersecurity is one of the hardest GTM motions in tech—period
The myth of the CISO as the sole buyer (and who actually influences decisions)
How real community works—and why fake ones backfire
Why founder curiosity and customer obsession are the biggest predictors of success
The buyer psychology behind trust, timing, and transference
What not to do at RSAC (and how to rethink your event strategy)
The role of failure, redemption, and authentic messaging in building credibility
Tactical ways to break through cynicism and engage skeptical security practitioners
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May 16, 2025 • 36min
Cognitive Risk, Neurodivergence, and the Unspoken Realities of Security Leadership
In this episode of Audience 1st Podcast, Dani Woolf sits down with Val Popke to explore the unspoken human dimensions of cybersecurity leadership.
Val, a veteran, assurance leader, and self-described “Wandering Cyber Vulva,” challenges the industry’s prevailing narratives around hiring, communication, inclusion, and resilience. The discussion goes beyond traditional security frameworks to uncover the cognitive and cultural risks impacting practitioners at all levels.
Listeners will walk away with a deeper understanding of why burnout, disconnect, and distrust are systemic, not personal, and how security leaders must evolve to lead in environments of increasing complexity, diversity, and psychological strain.
Key Themes:
Why psychological safety and cognitive clarity are prerequisites for functional security operations.
How the industry’s hidden majority is misaligned with traditional corporate norms and what needs to change.
The mismatch between capability and visibility in how cyber professionals are evaluated and excluded.
A linguistic and philosophical reframe that emphasizes collaborative understanding over performative inclusion.
Why many security professionals are forced to protect their organizations from internal dysfunction while defending against external threats.
Trust, mission, and why so many veterans find a natural home in cyber until corporate incentives erode that foundation.
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Learn more about CyberSynapse and qualitative buyer research

May 9, 2025 • 42min
A Deep Dive Into The Multi-Cloud Mess & How AlgoSec Connects the Dots
What does it really take to secure applications across a hybrid, multi-cloud environment?
In this episode of Audience 1st, I sit down with Adolfo Lopez, Sales Engineer at AlgoSec, who brings a practitioner’s lens to the cloud security conversation. From his experience as a network engineer to helping organizations operationalize cloud security today, Adolfo walks us through what most teams overlook—and how to get it right.
We cover:
Why visibility into application flows is foundational for multi-cloud security
What enterprises miss when they treat the cloud like a lift-and-shift extension of on-prem
Why security must be application-centric—not infrastructure-led
The critical role of policy discovery, orchestration, and automation
How AlgoSec ACE helps teams answer the question: “What will break if I make this change?”
If your team is working across AWS, Azure, GCP, and on-prem—and struggling to manage risk, connectivity, and policy alignment, this episode breaks it down practically and tactically.
To get a demo of AlgoSec, visit: https://www.algosec.com/lp/request-a-demo

May 2, 2025 • 45min
Successful Cybersecurity Marketing with Qualitative Buyer Data and Brain Power
In this provocative and no-fluff episode of Keyboard Samurai, host, Wil Kluv, sits down with Dani Woolf and Ben Siegel to unpack what’s broken in how cybersecurity vendors go to market and how to fix it using real buyer data and a deeper understanding of human psychology.
Dani and Ben, co-founders of CyberSynapse and veterans of cybersecurity GTM, break down why so many tech marketers are stuck in echo chambers, how pressure from investors leads to safe (but disconnected) strategies, and why most teams are making decisions without actual buyer validation.
They explore the psychological barriers to change, why the “herd mentality” is sabotaging innovation, and how to replace opinion with evidence through first-party qualitative research. They also take on the traditional analyst model, offering sharp critique and a more human, scalable alternative rooted in community-sourced insight.

Apr 25, 2025 • 60min
Know Before You Go: The Empathy Codified Playbook for RSA Conference 2025
Most vendors won’t admit this, but we will:
Your brand doesn’t have a messaging problem. It has a presence problem.
And it’s why buyers leave RSA feeling numb, unseen, and unready to trust you.
In this episode, Dani Woolf sits down with Zachary Hyde, someone she doesn’t always agree with, which makes this conversation one of the most honest and urgent before a major conference.
Together, they break down why most GTM teams think they’re being empathetic but are actually performing a buyer-first fantasy while still clinging to control.
If you're showing up to RSA Conference this year with a booth, a badge, and a team under pressure to "drive pipeline" - this is your mirror.
Listen before you land in SFO.
What We Cover:
Why vendors fail to empathize with buyers at conferences
How canned “empathetic marketing” actually erodes trust
Why emotional presence is a muscle to be consistently massaged
The difference between tone-matching and real psychological safety
Red flags buyers spot immediately and won’t tell you about
What to do this week to actually build trust at RSA (no fluff, no fake discovery)

Apr 18, 2025 • 36min
What Cybersecurity Leaders Must Learn from OT Practitioners in Underserved Critical Infrastructure
In this episode of Audience 1st Podcast,
Dani sits down with Kristin Demoranville, CEO of Anzen Sage and host of the Bites & Bytes podcast, to uncover the hidden vulnerabilities in one of the world’s most overlooked critical infrastructure sectors: food and agriculture.
From insider threats in peanut processing to cyber attacks that disrupt egg supply chains, Kristin breaks down why OT security in food systems isn’t just about uptime, it’s about human lives, brand trust, and national resilience.
She pulls no punches, sharing raw stories from the frontlines:
Why cybersecurity leaders in food facilities are flying blind
What happened when nobody spoke up at Boar’s Head
How misinformation campaigns are now a cyber risk vector
Why “brown cows make chocolate milk” isn’t just a joke—it’s a symptom of a dangerous knowledge gap
We also unpack:
The behavioral blind spots holding back executive buy-in
Why empathy, not just engineering, is the key to securing food systems
What must change in the next 5 years to avoid preventable tragedies

Apr 11, 2025 • 31min
Why Most Tech “Communities” Fail Before They Begin
Everyone in tech is suddenly “building community.” But most aren’t building anything close to the real thing - community that's built on mission, trust, and transparency.
In this raw, no-buzzword conversation recorded live at CyberMarketingCon, Dani Woolf sits with Ben Siegel, George Kamide, Bronwen Hudson, and Elliot Volkman, real community builders, to unpack what community actually means, why most efforts fall flat, and what it takes to build something alive, resilient, and trustworthy - especially in an industry like cybersecurity where trust is scarce and attention is fractured.
We go deep on:
Why most corporate “communities” are poorly disguised funnels
The difference between an audience, a user group, and a true community
What trust looks like when your members are CISOs, not consumers
Why growth is nonlinear, unpredictable, and absolutely not guaranteed
The emotional labor and invisible moderation that holds real communities together
You’ll also hear tactical advice on how to build thriving spaces across Reddit, Slack, LinkedIn, and beyond - without flashy tools or six-figure budgets.

Apr 4, 2025 • 31min
5 Mindset Shifts Security Teams Must Adopt to Master Multi-Cloud Security
Multi-cloud security isn’t just a technology challenge—it’s an organizational mindset problem.
Security teams are juggling AWS, Azure, and GCP, each with different security models, policies, and rules.
The result? Silos, misconfigurations, and security gaps big enough to drive an exploit through.
In this episode, I sat down with Gal Yosef from AlgoSec to break down:
Why multi-cloud security is so complex (and what security teams are getting wrong)
How to bridge the gap between network security and cloud security teams
How large enterprises manage cloud security policy enforcement across business units
The shift from one-size-fits-all security policies to flexible, risk-based guardrails
Why automation and visibility are critical for securing multi-cloud environments
If you want to secure application connectivity across your hybrid environment, visit algosec.com.