

Building Deep Tech with Ilir Aliu
Ilir Aliu
The show for founders building real deep tech.
Each episode features founders, executives, and builders in AI, robotics, and hardware — breaking down how they build, scale, and learn.
We talk about systems, mistakes, GTM strategy, funding lessons, and how to move from research to traction.
Hosted by Ilir Aliu from 22Astronauts.
Whether you’re building now or just curious — tune in.
Each episode features founders, executives, and builders in AI, robotics, and hardware — breaking down how they build, scale, and learn.
We talk about systems, mistakes, GTM strategy, funding lessons, and how to move from research to traction.
Hosted by Ilir Aliu from 22Astronauts.
Whether you’re building now or just curious — tune in.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 14min
Ep 76 | Fear and Pressure Fade When Joy Takes Over (w/ Brendah Njiru)
In this episode, I talk with Brendah Njiru, founder of HOMY Robotics, where she’s building emotionally intelligent humanoid robots for senior living:With a background in neuroscience and Alzheimer’s research at Cornell, Brendah brings a rare scientific depth to robotics.We talk about her upbringing in Kenya, her early obsession with medicine, and what pulled her into AI and hardware. She shares how she transitioned from labs to startups, why senior care is the perfect proving ground for home robotics, and how her work is grounded in real-world deployment.Brendah also opens up about pressure, ambition, and how she's building HOMY to solve deep human problems, not just automate tasks.

Aug 13, 2025 • 51min
Ep 75 | We Should Scale It Up Ourselves (w/ Lerrel Pinto)
In this discussion, Lerrel Pinto, an Assistant Professor at NYU and a leading figure in robotics, shares insights from his journey from India to the top of the research field. He delves into the challenges of teaching robots to generalize like humans and the significance of open-source robotics. Lerrel also reveals his current venture, Assured Robot Intelligence, while managing a high-profile lab. The conversation highlights the critical role mentorship plays in technology and the exciting advancements shaping the future of robotics.

Aug 7, 2025 • 1h 6min
Ep 74 | Why Early Corporate Experience Is Valuable for Entrepreneurs (w/ Benji Barash)
I sit down with Benji Barash, CEO of Roboto AI, to talk Amazon, robotics, and why knowing what to do with your data is key to scaling:Benji spent years at Amazon working on drone delivery, but started to see a growing problem in robotics, the data was piling up faster than teams could make sense of it.He left Amazon to build a solution. Today, Roboto AI helps robotics companies analyze massive amounts of sensor logs and time-series data. It’s like a copilot for engineers trying to figure out why something broke, how to improve it, and what to do next.We talk about growing up in the UK, getting into programming way before school even taught it, and what it takes to go from big tech to a lean startup. Benji shares what surprised him about building in the real world, how he works across time zones with his co-founder in Zurich, and what it means to build tools that help others scale.

Jul 31, 2025 • 51min
Ep 73 | Learn It Yourself Before Hiring for Expertise (w/ Madison Maxey)
In this episode, I talk with Madison Maxey, founder of LOOMIA, a company building soft, flexible electronics for everything: Everything? Everything! From robotics to automotive interiors. Maddie’s journey spans fashion school, a Thiel Fellowship, a return to Stanford in her mid-20s to study material science, and a decade of turning prototypes into real-world tech.We talk about growing up with a soldering iron and a sewing machine, how she designed a smart jacket for Zac Posen and Google, and why building a company means more than building a product. Maddie shares what it took to land early customers like Airbus, how she balances long timelines with fast-moving industries, and why her goal is to build something meaningful over 30 years, not just raise another round.We talk about early wins, hard lessons, the beauty of tactile sensing, and why confidence comes from doing hard things until they start to feel normal.

Jul 10, 2025 • 53min
Ep 72 | Found the perfect track, combining science and design (w/ Matthieu Lapeyre)
Yesterday, they launched a $299 robot. It looks like a toy, but it opens up a world of AI. Today, I talk to the person who made it real.Matthieu Lapeyre is the founder of Pollen Robotics and one of the most quietly influential roboticists in Europe. He’s been building open-source humanoids long before it was cool, from Poppy to Reachy to Reachy Mini.We talk about how growing up without a tech background shaped him, why he left research to ship hardware, and how he kept going through years of bootstrapping with barely enough to pay the team. He shares what it’s really like to live on the edge for years, and how joining Hugging Face gave them the launchpad they needed.We also get into the making of Reachy Mini, why it's designed to be unbreakable, what inspired the egg-shaped head, and how it could become the iPhone moment for robotics.

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Jul 3, 2025 • 55min
Ep 71 | The Team Ends Up Like Charting the Path Too (w/ Kaan Dogrusoz)
Kaan Dogrusoz, Co-Founder and CEO of Weave Robotics, shares his journey from Istanbul to building Isaac, a personal home robot designed for everyday use. He discusses the leap from a corporate giant like Apple to startups, emphasizing the challenges of creating something tangible and personal. The conversation dives into team dynamics in robotics, the iterative process of prototyping, and the impact of real-world feedback. Kaan also highlights how competition fuels innovation and the essential role of community in technological advancement.

Jun 26, 2025 • 54min
Ep 70 | Real Confidence Comes From The Work (w/ Benjamin Bolte)
🎙️ I talked with Benjamin Bolte, founder of K-Scale Labs, who left Meta to build something he actually believes in: an open-source humanoid robot!After working on Autopilot at Tesla, he saw the inside of Optimus and decided the big players were getting it wrong.Benjamin walks me through how he built the first robot with Alibaba parts and 3D-printed parts in his apartment, why raising too much money too early is a trap, and how soldering wires all night helped him remember why he’s doing this in the first place. He’s not chasing prestige or funding rounds. He’s trying to ship a $9K robot that can do your laundry. We talk about his time at Tesla and Meta, how he thinks about mortality, the power of conviction, why open-source matters, and what it really takes to build hardware that people want to own.

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Jun 19, 2025 • 1h 13min
Ep 69 | You can really build things with a small team (w/ Nikolaus West)
In this episode, I talk with Nikolaus West, Co-Founder & CEO of Rerun; their team is building the data stack for Physical AI:We get into the early days of Rerun: how an open-source visualization tool for multimodal data became widely adopted across robotics, spatial computing, and even inside companies like Apple and Meta. But that was just the start. Now, they’re building a full-stack platform for logging, querying, and managing robotic-scale data, from raw logs to model training.Niko shares his personal journey from business school in London to engineering in Sweden, to startups in retail, Kenya, and AR. Along the way, he learned the hard truth: physical AI teams are still flying blind when it comes to data. That pain turned into obsession, and obsession turned into Rerun.

Jun 12, 2025 • 56min
Ep 68: Personal Agency and Shaping One's Own Life (w/Chang Liu)
🎙️ I spoke with Chang Liu, founder and CEO of Extend Robotics, a startup developing intuitive VR interfaces to control robot arms and train AI models using real-world data.Chang shares his story from growing up in China to moving to the UK for university, studying at Newcastle and Southampton, and completing a PhD in aerial robotics. After postdoc work at Imperial College on autonomous drone systems, he made the leap into entrepreneurship and started Extend Robotics.We talk about the early pivots (from drone teleoperation to building lightweight robotic arms) and how the company eventually focused on software, helping users control off-the-shelf robot arms through an easy-to-use VR interface.Chang explains how they’re now using this interface to collect high-quality data for AI training, with real-world pilots in agriculture, EV manufacturing, and satellite servicing. The goal is to go from teleoperation to automation, and to make robot training as accessible as robot control.

Jun 4, 2025 • 53min
Ep 67: Doing Plan A to Do B Doesn’t Work (w/ Dhanush Radhakrishnan)
Took me 2 years to land this one...🎙️ In this episode, I talk with Dhanush Radhakrishnan, Co-Founder and CEO of Clone Robotics:The company building lifelike, musculoskeletal androids that move like humans and could become the next personal computing platform.Dhanush shares how watching Iron Man at 13 sparked a lifelong obsession with tech, leading him from plasma thrusters and nuclear fusion research to founding a YC-backed robotics company now making headlines with their human-like androids.We talk about why his first startup didn’t work out (and why Plan A to do B never does), how he met his co-founder on the internet, and why moving to Poland turned out to be one of the best decisions for focus and execution.Clone is going against the grain: from hydraulics to neural net control, from soft-body design to building general-purpose robots from scratch.This convo is packed with vision, hard-earned insights, and a founder who’s not afraid to do things differently.Give it a listen. You’ll see why people are paying attention.


