Breaking Form: a Poetry and Culture Podcast

Aaron Smith and James Allen Hall
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Apr 28, 2025 • 31min

The Poems of Brad Pitt

The ladies ask AI to write poems about Brad Pitt's butt. It’s not so bad Brad, sad Brad, is it?Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books.NOTES:Aaron's "Brad Pitt" appeared in his first book, Blue on Blue Ground. Read the poem here. Here's the official video for the Miley Cyrus song "End of the World" and here's a remix that is rocking our worlds, too. I couldn't find Brad Pitt reciting poetry, but he does read from A Brief History of Seven Killings by Marlon James in this clip.For more about Matsuo Bashō go here.Read this excellent and moving piece about AI and grief by Jason Fagone: "The Jessica Simulation: Love and loss in the age of A.I." details a grieving man's use of the AI called Project December in order to cope with the loss of his fiancé.
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Apr 21, 2025 • 39min

The Final Countdown

The queens discuss and revise a recent list of "best poetry," adding other tops (& bottoms & verses & sides, you get the point, miss thing).Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books.NOTES:For a few lists of best 21st Century poetry:                                                                                  The Atlantic (which we read in the show).                                                                                The New York TimesRead Mark Strand's titular poem "Man and Camel"Read Craig Morgan Teicher's review of Glück's Faithful and Virtuous NightWatch Tracy K. Smith's answer to "Does poetry matter" in this conversation with Tracey E. Hucks at the Harvard Radcliffe Institute. If you'd like to see Smith read from her Pulitzer-Prize-winning Life on Mars, here's a particularly good one.Read "Deception Story" by Solmaz Sharif from LookJames mediated a conversation and workshop with Diane Seuss on poetry and mental health, which can be viewed on YouTube hereRead a selection of poems from Patricia Smith's Blood DazzlerThe Brigit Pegeen Kelly poem James talked about in the show is "Closing Time; Iskandariya." Here it is, posted on Ilya Kaminsky's social media. Read a portfolio of writers on Kelly's book Song published recently in West Branch online (edited by Shara Lessley with short essays by David Baker, Amit Majmudar, Gabrielle Bates, and C. Dale Young).
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Apr 14, 2025 • 33min

James Went to AWP

The queens dish this year’s AWP Conference!Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books. Notes: The Association of Writers and Writing Programs can be found online at www.awpwriter.org Marcela Fuentes is the author of the award-winning novel Malas and you can find her online at https://www.marcelafuentes.comCheck out the exhibit Flesh World at Central Server Works, showcasing paintings by Monica Berger and Sofia Heftersmith.Julie Marie Wade's The Mary Yearsis a novella which won The 2023 Clay Reynolds Novella Prize, selected by Michael Martone.Purchase a copy of the Maureen Seaton tribute book When I Was StraightCheck out "From the Motel-By-the-Hour" (originally in The Iowa Review) from Nancy K. Pearson's book Two Minutes of Light from Perugia here.Claire J. Bateman's book is The Pillow Museum, available from the University of Alabama PressJen Jabaily-Blackburn's Girl in a Bear Suit won the Elixir Press Award. Buy it from her on her website: https://www.jenjabailyblackburn.comEmily Lee Luan won the Nightboat Poetry Prize for Return. Visit her website here.More information about the Civitella Ranieri Foundation can be found here.  James's Best American Poetry 2025 selection is called "Inheritance at Corresponding Periods of Life, at Corresponding Seasons of the Year, as Limited by Sex" originally published in Adroit Journal.
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Apr 7, 2025 • 29min

Leather Bar

Get in, gurl, we're reading poetry at your unfriendly neighborhood leather bar.Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books.NOTES:Learn more about Tom of Finland, the artist name of Finnish Touko Laaksonen who signed his erotic work "Tom." Follow messygayspod on Instagram, or @messygays.bsky.social on Blue Sky, or on FB at MessyGaysPodRead Heather McHugh's "The Amenities" (care warning: sexual assault)Read sam sax's "On PrEP or on Prayer [“when i say pre-exposure prophylaxis”]Read Elizabeth Bishop's "The Moose"Read Diane Wakoski's "Uneasy Rider"Here's an excerpt from Mark Bibbins's 13th BalloonRead this poem by Tyehimba JessCheck out Robin Coste Lewis's page on The Elders Project here. TEP captures and celebrates untold and underrepresented stories of activists, storytellers, and community builders who have witnessed and shaped great change in American public life. Read this consideration/critique of Cruising Read this interview of Mary Jo Bang.Stephen King addresses rumors about Musk insults here.Read this great review of Bianca Stone's fabulous The Mobius Strip Club of Grief.If you haven't seen the 20th anniversary edition of Richard Siken's Crush, check it out here. Check out Nighboat's Rob Halpern's Music for Porn Read Jenny Johnson's essay "Butch Blow Job" in Bomb.
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Mar 31, 2025 • 1h

Super Gay Poems w/ Guest Stephanie Burt

The queens super-gay it up with Stephanie Burt, the editor of the new poetry anthology, SUPER GAY POEMS.Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books.NOTES:Check out SUPER GAY POEMS: LGBTQIA+ Poetry after Stonewall, edited by Stephanie Burt, out on April 1, 2025. Read Hera Lindsay Bird's "Bisexuality"Check out Best New Zealand Poets and 20 Contemporary New Zealand Poets.Read JD McClatchy's "My Mammogram" The article we reference by the founders of AALR is "The World Doesn't Stop for Derek Walcott, or: An Exchange between Coeditors." Gerald Maa and Lawrence-Minh Bùi Davis.Here's a link, if you haven't listened to our episode "We Can Shift the Canon"Vendler's final book is called Inhabit the Poem: Last Essays, out from Penguin on September 2, 2025.Read "Breakfast with Miss Bishop"--Helen Vendler on Elizabeth Bishop.Read here for more about Essex Hemphill.Stephanie wrote about teaching the Taylor Swift course at Harvard for Vanity Fair.Read Stephanie's "Taylor's Version: The Poetic and Musical Genius of Taylor Swift"The Tay Learning Podcast that Stephanie mentions can be found here.Read Christina Rossetti's "Goblin Market"
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Mar 24, 2025 • 53min

Brenda's Resistance Playlist (w/ Brenda Shaughnessy)

We're talking resistance, joy, and queer communities with Brenda Shaughnessy!Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books.NOTES:Click here for Brenda’s Queer Resistance Playlist 2025 (Spotify).Check out Brenda's poem "Panopticon" from Interior with Sudden Joy.Visit Brenda Shaughnessy’s website . And hear her read from her newest book, Tanya here. Read more about UC Santa Cruz closing the Feminist Studies Dept here. Read more about Maria RessaFor more about Roland Barthes’s contribution to literary criticism, read here.While dated, here’s a list of creative writing programs that are LGBTQ+ friendly. Read more about Bettina ApthekerRead more about Donna J. HarawayRead on for more about the clubs Brenda mentions: Meow Mix, Clit Club, Henrietta Hudson (still open!), Pandora's Box, and more.Read more about Angela Davis's work here.For more about Wendy Brown, read her Guggenheim citation here.You can learn more about Allan Bérubé here. Learn more about the incredible Urvashi Vaid here.Watch/listen to Cécile McLorin Salvant's "Until" here. Read more about Kate Clinton on her website here.For more about Teresa de Lauretis, click here. 
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Mar 17, 2025 • 29min

Erase-Him Poems

The queens get to the poetic essence with the help of erasure and re-envisioning.Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books.NOTES:The Nicole Sealey poem we read at the end of the episode comes from the first four pages of her book The Ferguson Report: An ErasureWe revise poems by:Robert Bly, "The Beauty of Women"George Herbet, "Death"Dean Young, "Belief in Magic"William Stafford, "Accountability"Billy Collins, "Design"The video we mention posted by The New Yorker was posted in April 2023 to FaceBook: "How a New Yorker Poetry Editor Selects Poems"Watch John Travolta introduce Idina Menzel as "the wickedly talented Adele Dazeem" and then Menzel getting her good-natured revenge.For more about the feminist practice of erasure poetry, we can recommend Erase the Patriarchy: An Anthology of Erasure Poetry. 
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Mar 10, 2025 • 31min

Her Kind: Anne Sexton

Join the thirsty queens for a gin & Sextonic, in this tribute to the iconic work of Anne Sexton.Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books.NOTES:Click here for a pdf from the Poetry Society that includes a folio of essays about Sexton's life and work by David Trinidad, Lois Ames, and Maggie Nelson. (Originally published in Crossroads, fall 2001.)Trinidad talks about Anne Sexton on the podcast here.And, lastly, we'd be remiss if we did not link to this dishy, well-researched article--again by the fabulous David Trinidad--about the palace intrigue behind Sexton's winning the Pulitzer for Live or Die.Want to read more about Sexton, faith, and love? Your wait is over. Curious about Anne Sexton's houses? Click here! Here's an hour of Sexton reading some of her most iconic poems. Anne Sexton gave her last public reading at Goucher College in October 1974, three days before she completed suicide. You can find the reading here.Here are links to some of the poems we mention:"The Ballad of the Lonely Masturbator""Menstruation at Forty""Her Kind""Sylvia's Death""The Fury of Cocks""Cigarettes and Whiskey and Wild, Wild Women"
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Mar 3, 2025 • 1h 8min

The Loves of My Life (with Special Guest Edmund White)

The queens talk with gay literary icon Edmund White about his new book, The Loves of My Life: A Sex Memoir. (Miguel Murphy joins in the fun, too!)Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books.                            Miguel's SHORE DITCH is available from Barrow Street.You can purchase Edmund White's new book, The Loves of My Life: A Sex Memoir, at BookWoman here. Bookwoman was founded to increase access to queer and feminist literature in Texas nearly fifty years ago. Read Colm Tóibín's essay, "On the Casual Brilliance of Edmund White"Read a tribute to Gary Indiana  in The Guardian here. Need a quick definition refresher of auto fiction? Here you go! Miguel mentions that composer Arnold Schoenberg's archive destroyed in LA fires, and you can read more about that here. Here's a dishy roundup of Nabokov's insults of DostoevskyFor a bit more about Larry Kramer's objections to The Farewell Symphony, read on.Learn more about Richard Howard and his poetry here. Edmund White and Michael Carroll talk about their relationship, and their experiences writing gay fiction here.And here's the Interview Magazine article we mention in the episode, in which gay writers ask Edmund White a question: “Tall Blonde With a Big Dick”: 18 Men Ask Edmund White Some Sexy Questions" Finally, check out the fabulous Garth Greenwell's website: https://www.garthgreenwell.com  
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Feb 24, 2025 • 30min

Shorties

The queens prove that it's not the size of the ship but the motion etc etc in this episode devoted to short poems.Please Support Breaking Form!Review the show on Apple Podcasts here.Pretty Please with Aaron's cherry on top.....  Buy our books:     Aaron's STOP LYING is available from the Pitt Poetry Series.     James's ROMANTIC COMEDY is available from Four Way Books. Poems we mention in the show include:A.R. Ammons's "Their Sex Life"Rae Armantrout's "Anti-Short Story" and "Custom"Mahogany L. Browne's "Marigold." Listen to it read here.Andrea Cohen's "After" and "Matinee" and "Flight Pattern" and "Ghosting"Robert Creeley, "The Answer"Jim Harrison's "Another Country" and "Barking"Jane Hirshfield's "Like Others" and to "The Woman, The Tiger." You can hear her read that poem here (at the 18:12 mark).Sandra Lim, "Just Disaster" and "At the Other End of the Wire" and "Endings"Listen to Sandra Lim read her poems (~40 minutes) with many short poems at the end. Samuel Menashe's "Adam Means Earth" and "Apotheosis"Harryette Mullen's "Way Opposite"Kay Ryan's "Winter Fear" Listen/watch the music video for Gilette's "Short, Short Man" here. 

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