Breaking Form: a Poetry and Culture Podcast

Aaron Smith and James Allen Hall
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Mar 17, 2022 • 26min

Saving All My Love for You (interview w/ Miguel Murphy pt. 2)

Miguel Murphy's most recent book is  Shoreditch, which you can buy here.Arthur Hugh Clough is best known, according to the Poetry Foundation, "for his early, shorter poems and for the longer, later work that sprang from his intense religious doubts. He was an important influence on later poets such as T.S. Eliot, and his best work hints at the radical experiments and split subjectivities that would become the hallmarks of Modernism." The Encyclopedia Britannica says that the "long, incomplete poem Dipsychus most fully expresses Clough’s doubts about the social and spiritual developments of his era..." You can read it here.William Shakespeare wrote plays and poems.Cormac McCarthy published Suttree in 1979.Thomas Bernhard's novel Frost was originally published in German in 1963. Michael Hofmann published a translation in 2006. Roberto Bolaño Ávalos was a Chilean novelist, short-story writer, poet and essayist. Monsieur Pain was originally published in 1994  under the title La senda de los elefantes.You can watch the BBC filming of the Royal Shakespeare Company production of Macbeth with Judi Dench here. Judi's "Out, out damn spot" speech as Lady Macbeth starts around the two-hour mark (and the wail around 2 hours and 4 minutes).Yukio Mishima was a Japanese author, poet, playwright, actor, model, and founder of the Tatenokai ("Shield Society"), an unarmed civilian militia. He is considered one of the most important 20th century Japanese writers. His works include the novels Confessions of a Mask and The Temple of the Golden Pavilion. Mishima's political activities made him a controversial figure.  Masakatsu Morita was Mishima's lover; he was 25 when Mishima completed seppuku. 
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Mar 14, 2022 • 25min

A Silent Climb (interview w/ Miguel Murphy pt. 1)

Aaron and James interview Miguel Murphy, author of 3 books of poetry who teaches at Santa Monica College. Miguel reads and discusses his poems "A Love Like Auto-Sodomy" and "Greg Louganis." We discuss queer subjectivity and the notion of the reader.Miguel Murphy's most recent book, Shoreditch, can be purchased through Barrow Street.You can check out more of his work here.Or buy his books at Loyalty Bookstore.*Greg Louganis is an Aquarius and an American Olympic diver. He won gold medals at the 1984 and '88 Summer Olympic Games. He is the only man and the second diver in Olympic history to sweep the diving events in consecutive Olympic Games. He has been called both "the greatest American diver" and "probably the greatest diver in history."*We reference the title poem of Adrienne Rich's Diving Into the Wreck and you can read that poem here.
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Mar 7, 2022 • 27min

Banned

What happens when a voice is silenced? Who holds power to account for itself?Some support & info resources:The Trevor Project:https://www.thetrevorproject.org/BIPOC mental health resources:https://www.thementalhealthcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/BIPOC-Mental-Health-Resources.pdfNational Alliance on Mental Illness: https://www.nami.org/Support-EducationNational Mental Health Association (Mental Health America), including phone line & chat:https://www.mhanational.org/finding-helpCarl Phillips’s poem “All the Love You’ve Got” can be read here.: https://poets.org/poem/all-love-youve-gotAaron Smith’s poem “Shallow” was published in Allium & can be read here: https://allium.colum.edu/fall-2021-poetry-1/aaron-smith
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Feb 28, 2022 • 26min

Bad Animals

Is it REALLY good? Or is it merely tongue-in-the-butt good? Heart's official website is here. Listen to the vocals-only Heart cover version of "Alone" here. Ann Wilson sings lead; sister Nancy sings backup.Ann and Nancy's rift formed in 2016. You can read more about it here (CW: physical assault).You can see Frank Bidart read from Half-Light for the 92nd Y here (~30 min)
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Feb 21, 2022 • 25min

Phillip These Holes

The Art of Daring to be Flawless: Is it Carl Phillips or Philip Seymour Hoffman? The answer will surprise you!Buy Carl Phillips's incredible books (including his newest book, Then the War: New and Selected Poems) at Loyalty Books, a terrific Black-owned bookstore in DC.Carl Phillips Bio:Born on July 23, 1959 in Everett, Washington, Carl Phillips is the author most recently of Then the War (Feb 1, 2022) and of Pale Colors in a Tall Field (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2020). He has been a finalist for the National Book Award three times (for Speak Low, The Rest of Love, and From the Devotions) and a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award (for Cortège). His awards include the Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award (for The Tether), the Thom Gunn Award for Gay Male Poetry, the 2006 Academy of American Poets Fellowship, an Award in Literature from the American Academy of Arts and Letters, the Pushcart Prize, the Academy of American Poets Prize, induction into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and fellowships from the Guggenheim Foundation and the Library of Congress. Phillips served as a Chancellor of the Academy of American Poets from 2006 to 2012. He is Professor of English at Washington University in St. Louis. Carl Phillips's poems have  been chosen eight times for the annual Best American Poetry series.You can follow Carl on Instagram @ pinestereo (where he also sometimes does a very popular and fun cooking show!) Phillips is also the author of two book of prose on poetry: Coin of the Realm: Essays on the Art and Life of Poetry (Graywolf Press, 2004) The Art of Daring: Risk, Restlessness, and Imagination (Graywolf, 2014)Philip Seymour Hoffman was born on July 23, 1967 in Fairpoint, NY. He was nominated three times for Academy Awards as Best Supporting Actor: as a priest under suspicion of sexual predation in Doubt (2008); as a C.I.A. agent in Charlie Wilson's War (2007); and as a  cult leader in The Master (2012). He won the Best Actor Oscar for his portrayal of the titular character in Capote (2005).See Carl talk about and read from his new book, Then the War, released with Carcanet Press in the UK and FSG in the US, on YouTube here. See Carl Phillips read his poem "Dirt Being Dirt" here (~3 min). Watch Sumita Chakraborty reads Phillips's poem "As From a Quiver of Arrows" here (~3 min).Carl Phillips interviewed by Ron Charles @ The Washington Post (1 hour). Watch this interview with PSH ("Philip Seymour Hoffman: A Life in Pictures" from the BAFTA Archives) here. (~30min)
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Feb 17, 2022 • 29min

Fleabaggots

Take The Fleabag Quiz! Can you top James (yes) or Aaron? Plus 901 sex tips for the fleabaggot on the move.You can read an interview conducted by Tina Fey with Phoebe Waller-Bridge here. You can watch a clip of Fleabag's stage show here. (~2 min.)While it appears the stage version of Fleabag is not still available on Amazon Prime in the U.S., here's "Six things to know about the original play."Watch "73 Questions with Phoebe Waller-Bridge" (Vogue's Q&A series), where she answers questions about the origins of Fleabag, the difference between American and British humor, and her summary of Killing Eve ("murder, murder, HAIR").
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Feb 14, 2022 • 28min

Don't Play for Safety

The queens revisit Lucille Clifton's poem "won’t you celebrate with me." Then the queens are NOT. HAVING. IT. with misogyny in an Anthony Hecht poem. Consider supporting and shopping at Loyalty Bookstores, a black-owned DC-area independent bookstore. You can listen to Lucille Clifton read "won't you celebrate with me" here (the text of the poem is available with the audio; ~1 min). Read more here about The Clifton House. Writers and artists interested in participating and developing Clifton House programs may contact Sidney Clifton at cliftonhousebaltimore@gmail.com Watch Lucille Clifton read "Sorrows" and "What Haunts Him" at the 2008 Dodge Poetry Festival (~2.5 min)The title of the new selected poems is How to Carry Water, Selected Poems of Lucille Clifton (American Poets Continuum Series, 180). Starshine and Clay is Kamilah Aisha Moon's 2nd book from 4Way, published in 2017. Tracy K. Smith has a great essay on Clifton that appeared in The Paris Review and you can read that here. Smith's edition/selection of a Clifton-centered tarot deck is available here.The beginning of Elizabeth Bishop's "The Fish" is "I caught a tremendous fish," not "terrible fish," as James says. You can hear Bishop read that famous and much-anthologized poem here.  There are absolutely scholars who defend the Hecht poem as lampooning Matthew Arnold's / Victorian notions of gender and romance, but these queens remain unconvinced.
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Feb 7, 2022 • 29min

Poetry Gay Bar

You don't have to be good. You just have to be here.Please remember to shop indie and support poetry! We recommend Loyalty Bookstores, a great Black-owned bookstore if you are in need. Poets we talk about this episode include:See Prof. Harryette Mullen read some of her tanka diary poems from Urban Tumbleweed here (~15 minute video).You can see the fabulous Laura Kasischke read her poem "A is for Almost" here.  (~2 min)Miguel Murphy was interviewed on Breaking Form back in February. Check out Miguel reading with Sandra Lim and Randall Mann here.  (~58 min)C. Dale Young reads at the Geraldine R. Dodge Poetry Festival in this 5-minute clip here.Lucie Brock-Broido reads her poem “You Have Harnessed Yourself Ridiculously to This World” here. The poem is from Stay, Illusion , which was a finalist for the 2013 National Book Award.You can see Randall Mann read his poem "Stalking Points" here. (~2 min)Frank O'Hara's book is Lunch Poems. You can see cutie patootie Frank read "Having a Coke with You" here. (~2 min.)Tim Liu presents 4 poems here (~10 min)Elizabeth Bishop, A Cold Spring. You can read "Crusoe in England" here. Paul Monette, Love Alone: 18 Elegies for Rog. The text of one of those elegies, "No Goodbyes," can be found here. Watch Mary Oliver read "Wild Geese" here. Aaron references a cover of Robyn's hit "Dancing On My Own" by Kings of Leon. You can watch that here. Also, if you haven't seen one of the most iconic performances on Ru Paul's Drag Race -- when Raven and Jujubee's lip synced for their lives against each other to this song -- it's worth finding (here's a clip that's good for now).Say Yes to the Dress returned in 2019 to help us through the pandemic.Elizabeth Bishop poems we mention the titles of can be found in her Complete Poems. You can read various Bishop poems as well as other writers' critical essays on her work on the Modern American Poetry website here. 
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Jan 31, 2022 • 27min

Family Issues

How do you protect your family from your writing, and your writing from your family? The queens get serious about grief, death, homophobia, and family issues. Dear Dr. Freud!First, some resources:If you're struggling with LGBTQIA+ mental health issues (or want to be an ally for someone who is), visit the National Alliance on Mental Illness website here. It has great resources!Another great resource list for queer and trans BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, People of Color) can be found here.The Atlantic published an informative essay regarding family estrangement. You can read that here.If you are grieving a loss, GriefShare can provide some resources and support (including finding others who are going through approximate experiences).If you want to be an ally for LGBTQIA+ individuals, try:PFLAG (parents/friends)GLSEN (educators)Straight for Equality has some great workplace tips.them's Trans Voices series on YouTube This article shares 10 ways to be an ally to Black LGBT peopleShow references:Aaron's essay, "The Very Act of Telling: Sharon Olds and Writing Narrative Poetry" can be found online here. In it, Aaron writes: "Recently I saw a news article about a politician in Alabama who is introducing a bill to the legislature with the hopes of removing all public funding from libraries and universities that have books with gay or bisexual characters in them or that promote homosexuality as a valid lifestyle. My first thought was: This is absurd. Just because we aren’t talked about doesn’t mean that we don’t exist. Then it occurred to me: If we aren’t talked about, do we really exist?"The correct title of the Lisa Glatt book we reference is Monsters and Other Lovers. James's poem "Pittsburgh" can be found here.Aaron's poem "God Is Not Mocked" can be found here (scroll down) and the poem which his sister denies is true is here. The new book/manuscript of Aaron's that is discussed hast not been published. Please consider purchasing books through an independent bookstore. If you need a good one, we recommend Loyalty Books, a black-owned bookstore in Washington, DC that ships everywhere.
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Jan 24, 2022 • 29min

2 Books, 1 Poet

It's the Thunderdome of Poetry: two books (from the same poet) enter. Only one book leaves. We've got the books up on Instagram if you want to play along! @breakingformpod Buy books authored by the poets we've referred to at Loyalty Books, a terrific Black-owned bookstore.Check out Ada Limón's website here. The website has the correct publishing order of her fabulous books.You can view Tracy K. Smith's poem "History" here, in its journal of first publication, Callaloo, Vol. 27, No. 4, Contemporary African-American Poetry: A New Wave (Autumn, 2004), pp. 876-882 (7 pages).Poet Sun Signs:Aries:Ada LimónJericho BrownTracy K. SmithTaurus:Louise Glück.Jorie Graham      Carolyn ForchéGeminis:Denise Duhamel Anne Carson is most likely a Gemini (June 21).Amy ClampittLeosCarl Phillips Rita DoveMark DotyJohn AshberyLi-Young LeeVirgos:Natalie DiazLinda GreggScorpio:Terrance HayesSharon OldsSylvia PlathSagittarians:Lynda HullCapricornsDavid SedarisDorianne Laux (Her book Only As the Day is Long: New and Selected was a finalist for the Pulitzer in 2020, when Jericho Brown's The Tradition won. The other finalist was Mary Ruefle's Dunce).Aquarians:Elizabeth BishopNone of the authors we listed were Libras, Cancers, or Pisceans. 

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