

The Addicted Mind Podcast
Duane Osterlind, LMFT
"The Addicted Mind Podcast" offers hope, understanding, and guidance for those dealing with addiction, with real stories and research to inspire and show the journey to recovery is worth it.We're here to do more than just talk about addiction. We want to show you how to heal and recover.Our talks with experts and people who have beaten addiction give you important insights into how addiction affects the mind and how recovery can happen in many ways. Whether we're looking at new treatment ideas or sharing stories that inspire, "The Addicted Mind Podcast" is all about understanding the complex world of addiction recovery and showing that recovery is possible.If you or someone you care about is dealing with the challenges of addiction, let "The Addicted Mind Podcast" be your friend and guide. We aim to give you the knowledge you need, share stories that inspire you, and show you that the journey to recovery is worth it.Subscribe now to be part of a community focused on learning, healing, and changing for the better. Your journey to a healthier mind and life begins right here.
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Feb 2, 2026 • 43min
370 Episode: Exposing the "Florida Shuffle": How Greed Corrupted the Treatment Industry with Benjamin Flaherty
In this powerful episode, Duane sits down with filmmaker Benjamin Flaherty to discuss his hard-hitting documentary, Shuffle. The film pulls back the curtain on the "Florida Shuffle"—a predatory cycle in the billion-dollar addiction treatment industry where vulnerable individuals are "brokered" between facilities for insurance payouts.Benjamin shares his own journey of recovery and explains how his personal experience allowed him to gain unprecedented access to a community often silenced or exploited. This conversation explores the dark intersection of greed and healthcare, the resilience of the human spirit, and why the current treatment system desperately needs transparency.Key Discussion PointsBenjamin’s Recovery Journey: How a moment of clarity at age 41 led Benjamin from "professional alcoholism" to a transformative experience in treatment.The Origins of Shuffle: A chance conversation in an AA meeting revealed a disturbing trend: recovery call centers becoming a primary source of employment for those in early sobriety.What is the "Florida Shuffle"? Benjamin explains how the Affordable Care Act (ACA) unintentionally created a loophole where "patient brokers" poach insured individuals, profiting from their relapses.The Statistic that Shocks: There are currently more private substance abuse treatment centers in the U.S. than there are McDonald's restaurants.Witnessing the Cycle: The emotional weight of filming Corey and Nicole—two individuals caught in the cycle of being "bought and sold" by treatment facilities.The "Driveway Recordings": Why Benjamin chose to use raw, iPhone voice memos for the film's narration to maintain emotional authenticity.Maintaining Hope: Despite the systemic corruption, the film highlights the incredible resilience of those in recovery and the fact that healing is still possible.Notable Quotes"Stopping a substance is the entry card for admission. That’s not the whole thing. There’s a lot of work to do, and none of us know that until we find it out in our own way." — Benjamin Flaherty"We’ve now made relapse profitable. We’ve incentivized the struggle by providing substandard care because an insurance card is like a blank check." — Benjamin Flaherty"I approached my time with Corey not as a filmmaker first, but as a person in recovery. I had to witness it to make it impossible to ignore." — Benjamin FlahertyResources MentionedThe Documentary: Shuffle (also referred to as Stop the Shuffle)Website: stoptheshuffle.com — Find theater locations, tickets, and upcoming streaming info.Social Media: Follow the movement on Instagram @StopTheShuffle.Episode CreditsIf you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Jan 29, 2026 • 15min
TAM+ EP 101 Thinking in Gray: Transforming All-or-Nothing Mindsets in Addiction
They tackle black-and-white thinking and how rigid, all-or-nothing minds hurt recovery and relationships. They explain why the brain defaults to extremes and how that limits choices. Practical steps for shifting toward nuanced, “gray” thinking are discussed. Mindfulness, language shifts, seeking clarification from others, and a downloadable worksheet are highlighted as tools for change.

Jan 26, 2026 • 44min
Episode 369: The Neuroscience of Addiction: A Game-Changing Approach with Dr. Paul Kenny - replay
Today, let’s journey through the realms of neuroscience, addiction research, and the promising future of treatment strategies for substance use disorders. On this episode, Duane speaks with Dr. Paul Kenny, a distinguished figure in neuroscience and addiction research. He unravels his research on signaling cascades in rodents’ brains, providing fascinating insights into addiction-like behaviors. The discussion turns engaging as Paul illuminates his groundbreaking work with certain treatments and their potential role in addressing cravings and motivation in substance use disorders is nothing short of fascinating. They also steer the conversation towards an area often overlooked, which is the relationship between drugs, addiction, and satiety. Paul dissects how potent drugs like cocaine and heroin trigger extreme pleasure and consequently, substance use disorders. He shares his insights into how the satisfaction derived from drug use and the ritualistic patterns of drug consumption could be altered to reduce dependence. This episode sheds light on the promising field of addiction research and the need to raise public awareness of the issue. This is a testament to the incredible work being done by Cure Addiction Now. By understanding the brain’s role in addiction, we can potentially change the way we approach substance use disorders and find innovative ways to help those struggling with addiction.In this episode, you will hear:Groundbreaking research on addiction treatmentExploring medications to control cravings and motivationDrugs, addiction, and satiety relationshipGLP-1 enhancers and their potential to treat drug addictionExploring GLP-1 modulators for addiction treatmentAbout Cure Addiction NowFollow and Review:We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple ‘+’ in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.Supporting Resources:Cure Addiction Nowhttps://cureaddictionnow.org/ NovusMindfulLife.comEpisode CreditsIf you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jan 19, 2026 • 34min
Episode 368: Humble Pie: Hormones, Process Addictions, and Maintaining Long-Term Recovery in Menopause with Dana Bowman
In this engaging discussion, Dana Bowman, an author and recovery advocate, shares her journey through the complexities of menopause and long-term recovery. Dana dives into the 'Invisible Woman Syndrome' and the hormonal shifts that can trigger anxiety and addictive behaviors like binge eating and digital escapism. She emphasizes the importance of self-advocacy in healthcare and how creative outlets aid in navigating these challenges. With humor and honesty, Dana introduces her 'boop' rule, encouraging listeners to face fears while continuing to seek sweetness and purpose in their recovery.

Jan 15, 2026 • 16min
TAM+ EP 100 Meeting Your Shadow: Understanding the Hidden Parts of Yourself
Worksheet: Meeting Your ShadowHave you ever done something and then wondered, "Who was that? That wasn't me"?Maybe it was a relapse. A hurtful comment you didn't mean to say. Or that familiar feeling of sabotaging yourself right when things were finally going well. The uncomfortable truth? It was you—just a part of you that's been hiding in the shadows.In this episode of The Addicted Mind, Duane and Eric Osterlind explore one of psychology's most powerful concepts: the shadow self. First named by psychiatrist Carl Jung, the shadow is the unconscious part of your personality where you've stuffed everything you think is unacceptable—your anger, jealousy, selfishness, and those desires you don't want anyone to see.Here's the problem: what you repress grows in the dark.The more you ignore these hidden parts of yourself, the stronger they become. And for those struggling with addiction, the shadow often becomes the invisible force that hijacks your recovery and drives you back into old patterns. It's exhausting trying to be "good" all the time while fighting a war inside yourself.But here's the twist that might surprise you: your shadow isn't just the "bad" parts. It also contains buried treasures—your creativity, your passion, your drive. These gifts often get locked away because they seemed "too much" or not acceptable to the people around you.The goal of shadow work isn't to destroy these parts of yourself. It's not about fixing something that's broken. As Duane and Eric discuss, drawing from Internal Family Systems therapy, there are no bad parts. Every part of you is trying to help in some way, even if that help has become distorted over time.Instead, shadow work is about integration—bringing these hidden parts into the light so you can understand them and find healthy outlets for their energy. When you stop running from your shadow, something amazing happens: you free up all the energy you were using to keep that basement door locked. That energy becomes available for your recovery, your relationships, and your life.In this episode, you'll learn two practical ways to start exploring your shadow safely. First, pay attention to what annoys you in other people. That strong reaction? It's often pointing to something you've disowned in yourself. Second, get curious about your negative traits instead of shaming them. That anger you hate? It might be protecting you. That laziness? It might be your body begging for rest.The path to freedom isn't about becoming perfect. It's about becoming whole. A real person has a shadow—and meeting yours might be the most important step you take in your recovery.Key TopicsWhat is the shadow self? Carl Jung's concept of the unconscious parts of our personality we've denied, rejected, or repressedWhy whatever you repress grows in the dark—and how this fuels addiction and self-sabotageThe shadow isn't all bad—hidden within it are creativity, passion, and driveIntegration vs. fixing—why there are "no bad parts" and what that means for recoveryThe projection exercise—how what annoys you in others reveals your own shadowGetting curious instead of shaming—finding the positive intention behind negative traitsWholeness over perfection—reclaiming the energy spent hiding from yourselfTimestamps[00:01:00] – Introduction: Have you ever felt like there's another part of you living inside?[00:03:00] – The pain point: Self-sabotage and the exhaustion of trying to be good all the time[00:05:00] – Carl Jung's shadow concept explained: The bag we drag behind us[00:06:00] – The twist: Your shadow contains hidden gifts, not just darkness[00:08:00] – Integration vs. fixing: Why there are no bad parts[00:09:00] – Action step #1: Exploring your projections—what annoys you in others[00:11:00] – Action step #2: Getting curious about your negative traitsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jan 12, 2026 • 56min
Episode 367: Old Before Their Time: Frank Putnam on The Science of Intergenerational Trauma and Resilience
In this episode, Duane sits down with Dr. Frank Putnam, a pioneer in the study of childhood trauma with nearly 50 years of clinical and research experience. Dr. Putnam discusses his landmark 35-year longitudinal study—the Female Growth and Development Study—which tracked the biological and psychological impacts of sexual abuse on girls from childhood into adulthood. They explore the concept of "accelerated aging," the intergenerational transfer of trauma, and why early intervention is critical for breaking the cycle of violence.Key Discussion PointsThe Evolution of Trauma Diagnosis: Dr. Putnam recounts the early days of his career (the 1970s) when PTSD didn't exist in the DSM. Veterans and trauma survivors were often misdiagnosed with schizophrenia or borderline personality disorder before a language for trauma was developed.The "Old Before Their Time" Phenomenon: A core finding of Dr. Putnam’s research is that extreme childhood adversity accelerates biological aging.Puberty: Abused girls in the study reached puberty approximately one year earlier than the control group.Epigenetics: DNA methylation studies show that traumatized individuals have a biological age that exceeds their chronological age.Immune System: Some young girls exhibited immune systems that appeared "older" than those of healthy adults.The Role of Cortisol: The stress hormone cortisol plays a dual role. While levels are high during the period of active trauma, they often crash later in life, leading to a "blunted" stress response that mediates many negative health outcomes.Intergenerational Trauma: * Dr. Putnam’s research suggests a roughly 30% transfer rate of abuse across generations.This is not just behavioral; animal studies suggest that trauma-induced epigenetic changes can be passed down biologically.Resilience and Recovery: What differentiates survivors who thrive?Positive Relationships: High-quality relationships with older, supportive female role models were the strongest predictors of resilience for the girls in the study.IQ and Social Skills: Higher cognitive ability and personalities that attract social support also serve as protective factors.Treatment Success: Modern Trauma-Focused CBT (TF-CBT) has roughly a 70% success rate.Resources Book: Old Before Their Time: A Scientific Life Investigating How Maltreatment Harms Children and the Adults They Become by Frank W. Putnam.Organizations:NCTSN: National Child Traumatic Stress NetworkTF-CBT: Trauma-Focused Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.PCIT: Parent-Child Interaction Therapy (effective for younger children).Guest Website: frankputnam.comIf you live in California and are looking for counseling or therapy please check out Novus Mindful Life Counseling and Recovery CenterNovusMindfulLife.comWe want to hear from you. Leave us a message or ask us a question: https://www.speakpipe.com/addictedmindDisclaimerSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jan 8, 2026 • 20min
TAM+ EP 99 Escaping The Happiness Trap: Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Goals
Explore the intriguing distinction between extrinsic and intrinsic goals, revealing how the former offers only fleeting happiness. Delve into the concept of the hedonic treadmill and discover why achieving status and wealth may leave you wanting. Learn how intrinsic goals, such as personal growth and meaningful relationships, provide deeper fulfillment. Duane and Eric share practical tips to cultivate intrinsic happiness through gratitude, mindfulness, and connection. Unlock the secrets to stepping off the hedonic treadmill and embracing lasting joy.

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Jan 1, 2026 • 15min
TAM+ EP 98 You Can't Do This Alone: Building Your Recovery Tribe
Loneliness and shame often define the struggles of addiction, overshadowing the substances themselves. Connection is highlighted as the antidote to isolation, with community being crucial for long-term recovery. Research supports the effectiveness of mutual-aid groups and therapy in this journey. The hosts discuss how co-regulation in supportive environments can ease stress and foster hope. They also offer actionable steps, like identifying one new connection and practicing active listening, to help listeners build their recovery tribe.

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Dec 29, 2025 • 30min
Episode 366: From Unthinkable Tragedy to Transformed Life: Finding Hope After Unimaginable Loss with Burton Fischler
In this engaging discussion, Burton Fischler, a trauma recovery counselor and author of The Gift: Trauma to Triumph, shares his incredible journey after the tragic murder of his wife, Barbara. He delves into how he transformed grief and PTSD into a path of healing through writing and nature. Burton discusses the powerful link between trauma and addiction, the importance of practicing gratitude, and how neuroplasticity can aid recovery. His heartfelt message encourages anyone struggling with darkness to find hope and embrace the healing process.

Dec 22, 2025 • 30min
Episode 365: The Best Kept Secret: Building Bridges to Recovery on Tribal Lands with Doug Leech
Duane Osterlind sits down with Doug Leech, founder of Ascension Recovery Services, to discuss the monumental challenge of expanding high-quality addiction treatment to "treatment deserts"—specifically rural areas and tribal lands. Doug shares his vulnerable personal journey from a high-achieving accountant struggling with opioid addiction and homelessness to becoming a visionary leader in behavioral health.The conversation dives deep into the collaboration with the Pawnee Nation to build a sustainable, native-owned recovery center. Doug explains how he combined his expertise in accounting and neuroplasticity with ancient spiritual traditions and cultural healing to overcome the unique financial, political, and logistical hurdles of building on sovereign land.Key Discussion PointsDoug’s Personal Story: From working at a top accounting firm to living in a car due to opioid addiction, Doug discusses the powerful role of shame and the life-changing experience of finding recovery in Minnesota when his home state of West Virginia had no options.The Problem of Treatment Deserts: Why many communities (veterans, Medicaid recipients, and Native American tribes) are often left without any local access to life-saving care.The Pawnee Nation Project: The complexities of building on sovereign land, including financing without the ability to repossess property and navigating tribal government cycles.Workforce Development: The "10-year plan" to train tribal members—from peer recovery coaches to Master’s-level clinicians—to ensure the program is self-sustaining and native-operated.The Business of Recovery: How Doug uses his accounting background (and lessons from Sarbanes-Oxley) to build clinical programs that are not only effective but financially viable.The Power of Service: Why giving back through the 12th step is essential to maintaining long-term recovery.Quotes from the Episode"Addiction is the best-kept secret that everybody knows." — Doug Leech"I'll die with this disease, not from it." — Doug LeechResources MentionedAscension Recovery Services: ascensionrs.comWhite Bison: A resource for Wellbriety and culturally based healing for indigenous peoples.The Addicted Mind Podcast: theaddictedmind.comDoug Leech is in recovery and the founder of Ascension Recovery Services. Motivated by his own struggle to find care, he has dedicated his career to developing full-continuum recovery models for underserved populations, helping open dozens of centers across the United States.Connect with Doug:LinkedIn: Doug LeechWebsite: ascensionrs.comIf you live in California and are looking for counseling or therapy please check out Novus Mindful Life Counseling and Recovery CenterNovusMindfulLife.comWe want to hear from you. Leave us a message or ask us a question: https://www.speakpipe.com/addictedmindDisclaimerSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


