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Bill Shorten, a former Australian politician and opposition leader, discusses his resignation from politics after nearly two decades, culminating a long-held dream of becoming prime minister. Alongside Erik Jensen, editor-in-chief of Schwartz Media, they reflect on Shorten’s legacy, particularly the impactful National Disability Insurance Scheme. They delve into the emotional fallout of Shorten's electoral defeats and the intricate balance of his reformist ambitions versus public perception, shaping a complex narrative of his political journey.

Wendy Carlisle, a journalist for The Saturday Paper, dives into the controversial world of sports-related head injuries and their alleged link to chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). She challenges the NRL’s stance that CTE is an 'invented disease,' shedding light on ongoing research disputes. Discussing the tragic narratives of former athletes and the reluctance of leagues to face legal ramifications, she calls for better mental health support. The conversation emphasizes the crucial need for transparency in sports research and prioritizing player safety.

Thomas Mayo, a passionate Kaurareg Aboriginal and Kalkalgal, Erubamle Torres Strait Islander activist, discusses the path forward after the recent referendum loss for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament. He emphasizes resilience and a new generation of Indigenous leaders rising to the challenge. Mayo critiques governmental failures, especially regarding the Makarata Commission, and shares insights from his book, which outlines a hopeful vision for justice and recognition. He also reflects on the importance of community bonds and the need for deeper understanding of Indigenous issues.

The podcast delves into the critical implications of excluding sexual orientation and gender identity from the census. It discusses how this omission affects not just representation, but also mental health support for the transgender community. The urgent need for accurate demographic data is highlighted, especially following tragic suicides among young trans women. Advocacy voices, including insights from a key writer, emphasize that counting trans individuals could ultimately save lives and foster better community services.

Jacqui Lambie, a political powerhouse in Canberra, leads the Jacqui Lambie Network, while former staffer Tammy Tyrrell recently secured a Senate seat. They discuss the dramatic internal strife after Tyrrell's resignation and the sacking of two MPs, revealing deep mistrust and emotional turmoil within the party. Lambie's alleged oversight in internal conflicts adds intrigue. The conversation further navigates the fallout from the Spirit of Tasmania infrastructure project and the network's uncertain future amid membership declines and leadership inconsistencies.

Miranda July, a writer, artist, and filmmaker renowned for her unique storytelling, discusses her new novel, All Fours. She explores the often-overlooked topics of aging and intimacy, particularly focusing on women's experiences during perimenopause. The conversation dives into the emotional challenges of balancing love and personal freedom, while also celebrating the intersections of dance and creativity. July emphasizes the importance of improvisation in both writing and dance, highlighting its power in self-discovery and artistic expression.

Bruc, an art curator at the center of a major Indigenous art controversy, shares insight into the Ngura Pulka exhibition scandal. He discusses how a video showing white studio assistants painting contributed to allegations of misrepresentation in the Aboriginal art world. The conversation covers the complexities of authenticity and the challenges faced by Indigenous artists amidst scrutiny. It also highlights the need for equitable opportunities and the resilience of the APY Collective in navigating these tumultuous waters.

Tanya Plibersek, Australia's Minister for the Environment and Water, discusses her intervention in a contentious gold mining project that has sparked significant debate. Jim Beyer, CEO of Regis Resources, shares his frustrations over the halted McPhillamy goldmine, emphasizing the economic stakes at play. The conversation dives into the clash between cultural heritage laws and mining interests, highlighting the complexities of Indigenous rights and environmental protection. Both guests explore how these issues impact investor confidence and the future of mining in Australia.

Jess Hill, a journalist and co-author of a rapid review aimed at ending violence against women and children, shares her urgent insights on transforming how the government addresses domestic violence. She discusses the crucial integration of health services in prevention efforts and the importance of engaging men in conversations about healthy masculinity. Hill emphasizes the need for systemic reforms in family law and stresses the inclusion of Indigenous voices in crafting effective policies. Her call to action highlights the pressing need for genuine government commitment.

Jonathan Pearlman, the world editor of The Saturday Paper and editor of Australian Foreign Affairs, dives into the escalating tensions in the Middle East, focusing on the recent rocket attacks from Hezbollah and Israel's retaliatory strikes. He discusses the precarious balance between both parties, emphasizing their reluctance to plunge into full-scale war. The podcast also explores Hezbollah's substantial military presence in Lebanon, its ties to Iran, and the implications for regional alliances, including its support for Hamas amidst ongoing geopolitical complexities.