The History of the Americans

This is our one hundredth episode, at least by some counts, and also our first interview. Eric Yanis, the creator and host of The Other States of America History Podcast, agreed to be our first interviewee. We chatted about a wide range of subjects, including: How the pandemic motivated both of us to start our podcasts; Eric on teaching middle schoolers in New York during the pandmic; The different ways in which we put together our episodes; The rapidly declining interest in history among college undergraduates and some of its causes, including the de-emphasis of history in primary and middle schools; Middle schoolers today have almost no exposure to history before the sixth grade -- "kids today" have not even heard of "teepees"; How interest in history rises as we age - "People become more interested in history the more history they have"; Should history podcasters be intimated by academic historians, and should academics be more supportive of popular history, even if it offends their professional sensibilities? "The zone where lives can live"; A digression on the historiography of the Popham/Sagadahoc Colony and the reasons for its failure; Our fantasy pub crawl with figures from sixteenth and seventeenth century America, assuming a universal translator; Things we hear from listeners; The competing claims for the inspiration of Shakespeare's "The Tempest"; Eric discusses the legacy of New Netherland in our language, our celebration of Christmas, and in our national self-image as a "melting pot"; So maybe I should publish the podcast on YouTube. This was fun, and I hope you all enjoyed it. For those of you listening along in real time, may the season be filled with happiness, and may you give and receive excellent history books! Jack on Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Eric on Twitter: @OtherStatesPod The Other States of America Podcast (Apple podcast link)

This episode is about the trading between the Dutch of New Netherland, the English first of Plymouth and then of Massachusetts Bay Colony, and the Algonquian and Iroquoian tribes in the region during the 1620s and 1630s.  These relationships were important, both to the profitability of settlement for the Dutch and the English, and because they so destabilized the balance of power among the tribes and the Europeans that they would eventually lead to the very ugly Pequot War of 1636-38. The indigenous ceremonial currency, wampum, sat at the center of this trade, and we take a first look at its monetization by the Dutch and then the English. Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Facebook: The History of the Americans Podcast Selected references for this episode Mark Meuwese, "The Dutch Connection: New Netherland, the Pequots, and the Puritans in Southern New England, 1620—1638," Early American Studies, Spring 2011. Paul Otto, "Henry Hudson, the Munsees, and the Wampum Revolution," published in The Worlds of the Seventeenth-Century Hudson Valley, ed. Jaap Jacobs and Lou Roper. Albany: SUNY Press, 2014 D. I. Bushnell, Jr., "The Origin of Wampum," The Journal of the Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland, Jan - Jun 1906. Wampum (Wikipedia)

In this episode, we return to New Mexico and look at the ambitious mission-building program of the Franciscans in the Pueblos of New Mexico during the long seventy years between the founding of Santa Fe in 1610 and the Pueblo Revolt of 1680. Among other moments, we recount the revolt at the Jemez Pueblo in 1623. The Franciscan project, in the end, involved a huge network of missions, much of it built quite voluntarily by Indian converts. It was, in some respects, a European-Indian society quite different from that evolving in Virginia, Massachusetts, and even Florida. Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Facebook: The History of the Americans Podcast Selected references for this episode John L. Kessell, Pueblos, Spaniards, and the Kingdom of New Mexico Herbert E. Bolton, The Spanish Borderlands: A Chronicle of Old Florida and the Southwest Andrew L. Knaut, The Pueblo Revolt of 1680 Matthew J. Barbour, "The Jemez Revolt of 1623" Matthew Liebmann, "At the Mouth of the Wolf: The Archeology of Seventeenth-Century Franciscans in the Jemez Valley of New Mexico"

In this episode we roll back the timeline a bit to 1602, and recount the exploration and mapping of the coast of California by Sabastian Vizcaino. He would name many of the famous places along that coast, and return a hero, only to be deprived of his just reward by perfidious Spanish politics. Had that not happened, American history in the west might have unfolded quite differently. Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Facebook: The History of the Americans Podcast Selected references for this episode Iris H. W. Engstrand, "Seekers of the 'Northern Mystery': European Exploration of California and the Pacific," California History, Fall 1997. Charles E. Chapman, "SEBASTIAN VIZCAINO: EXPLORATION OF CALIFORNIA," The Southwestern Historical Quarterly, April 1920.

This is an encore presentation of one of most popular episodes, "Notes on Thanksgiving," which dropped on Thanksgiving Day, 2021. This is a great pre-listen for your Thanksgiving celebration, insofar as you will be able to roll out all sorts of impressive Thanksgiving history factoids and impress those all-important in-laws! The original show notes are reproduced below. If you prefer to listen on a podcast app, here is the link for Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sidebar-notes-on-thanksgiving-encore-presentation/id1547078697?i=1000586884396 And for Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5D8jobBZe1LRKHyQp8zaiw?si=C8T_phZoR3uB6TVuQILpsw For "More Notes on Thanksgiving," a darker version, listen here or find it on a podcast app. This November, it has been 400 years since the traditional First Thanksgiving at Plymouth Colony – Patuxet in 1621. But the history of that collaborative feast of the English and the Wampanoag Indians was lost for more than 200 years. For most of that time, Americans celebrated “thanksgiving” all over the country at different days in the autumn, decreed by local and state governments, without knowing its origin story. This episode explores the conversion of thanksgiving from a local custom to a revered national holiday. Along the way, we learn about Sarah Josepha Hale, the remarkable woman to whom Americans owe the greatest debt for the holiday they will celebrate today. There were political objections to Thanksgiving, too, rooted in exactly the debates we have today after the proper role of the federal government, and how precisely to separate church and state. Finally, we learn about the central role of football on Thanksgiving, dating from Thanksgiving of 1873, only four years after the first college football game. By 1893, Americans were playing thousands of games of football across the country on Thanksgiving Day. Oh, and we should all be grateful that President Franklin Roosevelt didn’t screw it all up, which he very nearly did. Melanie Kirkpatrick, Thanksgiving: The Holiday at the Heart of the American Experience Melanie Kirkpatrick, “Don’t Let Ideologues Steal Thanksgiving” “How the Great Colchester Molasses Shortage Nearly Ruined Thanksgiving” All the Presidential Thanksgiving Proclamations 1789-2018 (pdf) The West Wing, “I get to proclaim a national day of Thanksgiving” The American Story Podcast: Sarah Josepha Hale

This Sidebar episode starts with my notes from my trip to Cuba "in support of the Cuban people," one of the exceptions to the general ban on Americans traveling there. Those notes lead to a story from American - Cuban relations: Three "filibustering" invasions of Cuba launched from the United States in the 1840s, the strange American origin of the flag of Cuba, the election of Franklin Pierce on the platform of acquiring Cuba for the United States, and the curious swearing in of his Vice President, William Rufus King, on a sugar plantation in Cuba. Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Facebook: The History of the Americans Podcast Selected references for this episode Ada Ferrer, Cuba: An American History Fulgencio Batista (Wikipedia) Franklin Pierce (Wikipedia) William Rufus King (Wikipedia) "As Cuba turns page on Castro era, economic reform gains urgency" "Economic Reforms In Cuba Over the Past Decade" "The rise of Vegas, thanks to the fall of Cuba"

This episode is about a happy-go-lucky Englishman named Thomas Morton, whom William Bradford dubbed the “Lord of Misrule,” and who would be a thorn in the side of Puritans in New England for more than fifteen years. Here’s how Bradford described Thomas Morton in Of Plymouth Plantation: …Morton became Lord of Misrule, and maintained (as it were) a School of Atheism. And after they had got some goods into their hands, and got much by trading with the Indians, they spent it as vainly in quaffing and drinking, both wine and strong waters in excess (and, as some reported) £10 worth in a morning. They also set up a maypole, drinking and dancing about it many days together, inviting the Indian women for their consorts, dancing and frisking together like so many fairies, or furies, rather; and worse practices. Frisking! And worse... But Thomas Morton was much more than that. In many ways, he was the first new American of a very particular sort, and his story reminds us that American traditions have always been in a struggle with each other. Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Facebook: The History of the Americans Podcast Selected references for this episode William Bradford, Of Plymouth Plantation John G. Turner, They Knew They Were Pilgrims: Plymouth Colony and the Contest for American Liberty William Carlos Williams, In the American Grain Peter C. Mancall, The Trials of Thomas Morton: An Anglican Lawyer, His Puritan Foes, and the Battle for a New England William Heath, "Thomas Morton: From Merry Old England to New England," Journal of American Studies, April 2007 Michael Zuckerman, "Pilgrims in the Wilderness: Community, Modernity, and the Maypole at Merry Mount," The New England Quarterly, June 1977 John Endecott (Wikipedia)

New Netherland gets off to a rocky start, with uncommonly poor leadership. Fortunately, a very capable leader, Peter Minuit, steps forward after a catastrophic attack on the Dutch at Fort Orange by the Mohawk. Minuit would consolidate most of the settlers at New Amsterdam, and buy Manhattan from the Leni Lenape Indians on the island. Notwithstanding its representation in American lore, we fearlessly consider whether that deal was, in fact, a great bargain for the Dutch, or actually at fair market value! See Jack's interview on The RSnake Show on Youtube. Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Facebook: The History of the Americans Podcast Selected references for this episode Russell Shorto, The Island at the Center of the World: The Epic Story of Dutch Manhattan and the Forgotten Colony That Shaped America Jaap Jacobs, The Colony of New Netherland: A Dutch Settlement in Seventeenth-Century America Eric Yanis, The Other States of America History Podcast New Amsterdam (Wikipedia) "Honoring a Very Early New Yorker" (NYT)

This is the beginning of the story of New Netherland, the Dutch colonization of today's New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and elsewhere in the mid-Atlantic. New Netherland was a long-ignored period in American history, but has come into its own in recent years. The Dutch and New Netherland are now seen to have had a significant impact on the early United States, with important downstream consequences. Such as the word "cookie," which is why we Americans don't call them "biscuits," as the English do. In this episode we discuss the geopolitical and economic considerations that led to the chartering of the New Netherland Company in 1614 and the much larger Dutch West India Company in 1621, both motivated in part by the fantastic success of the Dutch East India Company. We end the episode just before the first batch of Dutch settlers are to arrive in New York harbor. Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Facebook: The History of the Americans Podcast Jeff's pictures of the Wessagussett site Selected references for this episode Eric Yanis, The Other States of America History Podcast Russell Shorto, The Island at the Center of the World: The Epic Story of Dutch Manhattan and the Forgotten Colony That Shaped America Jaap Jacobs, The Colony of New Netherland: A Dutch Settlement in Seventeenth-Century America Mark Meuwese, "The Dutch Connection: New Netherland, the Pequots, and the Puritans in Southern New England, 1620-1638," Early American Studies, Spring 2011. Dutch East India Company (Wikipedia)

This is an encore presentation of our special Columbus Day episode, which originally dropped on October 12, 2021. It remains one of the most popular episodes of the History of the Americans. Last year I released it on the actual day, rather than on the Monday holiday, but this year I'll go with the flow. One of the reasons is that all the popular and social media discourse on Columbus happens on the government holiday, rather than the anniversary itself. This episode is not actually about the culture war over Columbus Day, except in passing. Instead, we consider the larger consequences of Columbus’s “Great Enterprise,” and various counterfactuals — “what if” moments that might have made it all go quite differently, and the possible long-term consequences. Along the way we say some challenging things that will irritate almost everybody, but we know you are only listening because of your resolutely open minds! Follow me on Twitter: @TheHistoryOfTh2 Or on Facebook: The History of the Americans Podcast Selected references for this episode Samuel Eliot Morison, Admiral of the Ocean Sea: A Life of Christopher Columbus Alfred W. Crosby, Jr., The Columbian Exchange: Biological and Cultural Consequences of 1492, 30th Anniversary Edition Charles C. Mann, 1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created Noble David Cook, Born to Die: Disease and New World Conquest, 1492-1650 Nathan Nunn and Nancy Qian, “The Columbian Exchange: A History of Disease, Food, and Ideas”