The Building 4th Podcast

Today marks the 10th anniversary of my blog, Cosmic Christ, and I find myself filled with gratitude as I reflect on this journey of exploration, discovery, and spiritual growth. What began as a humble attempt to articulate my evolving understanding of spirituality has blossomed into a decade-long conversation about the profound intersection of Christianity, the Ra Contact, and the perennial wisdom traditions that connect them. Today marks the 10th anniversary of my blog, Cosmic Christ, and I find myself filled with gratitude as I reflect on this journey of exploration, discovery, and spiritual growth. What began as a humble attempt to articulate my evolving understanding of spirituality has blossomed into a decade-long conversation about the profound intersection of Christianity, the Ra Contact, and the perennial wisdom traditions that connect them. [more here: https://cosmicchrist.net/2025/04/19/cosmic-christ-celebrating-10-years-of-finding-my-voice/]

In this enlightening episode, Dr. Troy Caldwell, a retired MD psychiatrist and practicing spiritual director, delves into the spiritual theology's spiral path, a model depicting the journey towards spiritual growth and union with God. Discover how this ascending spiral serves as a metaphor for our movement toward divine consciousness and the likeness of Christ. Dr. Caldwell explains the three fundamental stages of this spiritual journey, known as the 'three ways': the purgative, illuminative, and unitive ways. He highlights the trials and triumphs of each stage, drawing from renowned mystical teachings and historical figures in Christianity, such as Evelyn Underhill and St. Teresa of Avila. Engage in a reflection on personal transformations with guests sharing their profound experiences. Hear diverse perspectives, including the once-born mystics who feel an innate connection to the divine from birth. Finally, the conversation touches on how understanding these spiritual stages can enhance our everyday relationships and lead to a deeper acceptance of self and others.

This episode captures a dream analysis session led by Troy Caldwell, a retired psychiatrist with Jungian training who serves as a spiritual director for the Building 4th Community. The session follows a structured format where participants share their dreams and the group collectively interprets them through spiritual and psychological lenses. The meeting begins with a brief meditation focusing on gratitude for embodiment and divine presence in the current moment. Three participants share their dreams with rich interpretations: Rudy's Dream: Rudy describes being at the bottom of the ocean wrapped in a pink-red octopus, feeling surprisingly comfortable despite normally being afraid of the ocean. The group offers these interpretations: The ocean represents the unconscious mind, with Rudy finding unexpected comfort in its depths The octopus symbolizes intelligence, balance, and protection - a "still point" amidst chaos Its pink-red color connects to "red ray" energy (related to embodiment and survival challenges Rudy mentioned facing for six years) The dream suggests finding comfort amidst traditionally uncomfortable situations Doug notes the octopus represents "balance and integration, personal power and manifestation, wholeness and unity, and order amidst chaos" The scene reflects Rudy "reworking foundations" at a soul level Duncan's Dream Series: Duncan shares three dreams with a recurring theme of animal-human transformation: A butterfly with color-shifting wings landing on his shoulder transforms into a woman giving spiritual advice A monk turning into a dolphin, with Duncan following suit and swimming through luminous blue waters A monkey that transforms into a Native American woman who communicates through gestures about his "good heart" Interpretations include: The butterfly symbolizes "numinosity" from the "upper unconscious" The left shoulder represents embodiment and limitation The progression from verbal communication to gesture-only communication suggests movement toward contemplative spirituality The dreams show integration of instincts with higher spiritual awareness Troy frames the dreams within three stages of spiritual development: purgative (discipline), illuminative (joyful insights), and unitive (walking with God) The dreams function as affirmations rather than lessons - "you're doing a good job" Troy's Dream: Troy shares a dream about societal breakdown, family members filling his house leaving no place to sleep, and adolescent-like competition where he catches a "gooey gray ball." Interpretations include: The character "Shackleford" represents feeling shackled or limited The lack of sleeping space reflects how societal chaos prevents finding rest The competition scene mirrors social media one-upmanship culture The gray gooey ball represents societal messiness, potentially with creative potential (likened to semen/seed) Doug suggests Troy "caught the catalyst" (a Law of One reference) despite challenges The dream reveals Troy's tendency to "make the best of a bad situation" with playfulness Throughout the discussion, participants reference spiritual concepts and frameworks to understand the dreams' deeper meaning, creating a supportive environment for personal growth through collective dream interpretation

This episode documents a deep philosophical conversation between Doug Scott and Carys Vaughan, exploring complex spiritual and metaphysical concepts. The dialogue weaves together themes of consciousness evolution, spiritual development, societal polarization, and personal responsibility in a time of global transformation. Major Themes 1. The Womb/Tomb Metaphor and Transformational Consciousness A central metaphor emerges of our current global moment as a "tomb that is a womb" - a space of both death and rebirth. Doug introduces this concept through the Christian archetype of resurrection: "What is a neglected part of that archetype often is the tomb... You have the dying on the cross, and then the resurrection. But in between you have in the archetypal story 3 days in the tomb. And what is the tomb? If it's not a womb... the tomb is a womb." This frames their understanding of current global challenges as a necessary death-rebirth process: "How to midwife the death of the old and the birth of the new." Carys relates to this idea, noting how she had previously conceptualized it as liminal space: "I was kind of seeing it as a bit like we're just in this kind of liminal space... But there's this kind of liminal space that we're in at the moment where we we can't see the new yet." 2. The Law of One Philosophy and Cosmic Evolution Doug presents a detailed cosmology based on the "Law of One" material, explaining consciousness evolution through "densities" and the cosmic journey of the Creator experiencing itself: "The primal Logos, the Creator, is a being, a protean being, protean meaning changing. Growing is a protein being that develops and learns on... the ultimate macro scale." This framework provides context for understanding human development, societal challenges, and spiritual evolution. Doug explains how consciousness evolves through various "densities" with Earth currently in "3rd density" - a particularly challenging stage characterized by veiled awareness and polarization. 3. Navigating Polarization and Division Both speakers explore the challenge of dealing with societal division and polarization. Carys expresses difficulty empathizing with those who deliberately cause harm: "What I find difficult is how the rich and powerful, like Trump or Elon Musk, are cutting into things that help relieve the pain and suffering of the marginalized, without any empathy or even curiosity of what most people's lives are like. They are purposefully choosing. This is the evil that I that I see." Doug offers a perspective that reframes even negative polarization as part of cosmic development: "From the law of one perspective, those who have chosen the negative polarity from 3rd density we call that evil. But in the metaphysics of it all it's not. There isn't an evil or a good. They're just 2 pathways that create catalyst for each polarity." 4. Personal Agency and Response to Global Challenges The conversation explores how individuals should respond to global disruption and conflict. They discuss the importance of "witnessing" (or as Doug suggests, "withness") rather than fighting against what is happening: "Our job, I think, is to midwife the new spirit of standing under... to help those who are entrapped in their own belief systems, not hating on them." Doug emphasizes detachment from outcomes while staying engaged in service: "So work hard, be an activist, do the things. Every act of love counts; yes, butterfly effect. But then strip the ego's need to clothe itself in success or failure, and walk off the field when the harvest is done." 5. Spiral Dynamics and Levels of Consciousness The speakers discuss different levels of consciousness development, referencing "blue level," "green meme," and other terms from Spiral Dynamics. They explore how people at different levels perceive reality: "They can't see. But look beyond that, say blue, level consciousness. So anything that they see that perhaps, is, you know, green or yellow, or whatever is, is seen as a threat." This framework helps them understand why some people may be resistant to change or threatened by different perspectives. 6. The Ripple Effect of Personal Actions The conversation concludes with a beautiful recognition of how small actions create meaningful ripples. Doug shares how Carys's environmental activism has inspired him across continents: "Your act of love towards God as the creation has made an influence to some dude way in Texas." Carys appreciates this while acknowledging the beauty in not knowing the full impact of our actions: "There's something beautiful in the not knowing as well. I think you know just you're scattering your seeds, and you don't quite know where they're going to blow off to what they're going to kind of produce." Conclusion This rich dialogue explores profound questions about humanity's current evolutionary moment, framing global challenges as a necessary transition toward a new consciousness. It balances metaphysical concepts with practical approaches to navigating polarization and contributing positively to societal transformation. The speakers ultimately find common ground in the importance of committed action paired with non-attachment to outcomes - being present to suffering while maintaining hope in the possibility of rebirth.

Introduction In the transcript, Doug Scott, LCSW, presents a profound exploration of process philosophy through the lens of the Ra Material, drawing parallels with Whitehead's process thought. The discussion centers on the nature of consciousness evolution, the unique role of Earth in cosmic development, and how the Creator experiences and learns through the diverse manifestations of existence. The conversation weaves together metaphysical concepts, spiritual insights, and philosophical frameworks to understand humanity's place in the larger cosmic narrative. The Creator Learning Through Experience A central theme in the transcript is the idea that the Creator is continuously learning and evolving through the experiences of its creation. Doug Scott emphasizes that the One Infinite Creator is engaged in a process of self-discovery through the countless manifestations of itself throughout creation. This perspective aligns with what we see in the provided document about Whitehead's process philosophy, where Whitehead describes God as "completed by the individual fluent satisfactions of finite facts" and the temporal occasions as "completed by their everlasting union with their transformed selves." The Ra Material elaborates on this concept by describing the Creator as not merely creating but experiencing itself. As noted in the transcript reference to this material: "The Creator does not properly create as much as It experiences Itself." This reflects a dynamic, participatory understanding of divinity that is characteristic of process thought. Whitehead's vision of God as presented in Process and Reality portrays the divine as having both a "primordial nature" (the realm of pure possibility) and a "consequent nature" (God's reception and integration of all that happens in the world). The latter aspect is particularly relevant to the discussion, as it represents how God "saves the world as it passes into the immediacy of this divine everlasting life." Earth as a Cosmic Catalyst One of the most provocative claims made by Doug Scott is that Earth represents a unique "catalyst" for the logos (the creative principle or organizing intelligence of the universe) to learn and evolve. He describes Earth as an "anomaly" that plays a central role in cosmic evolution not because it is "ontologically special" but because it serves as a pivotal point for growth in the larger cosmic process. Scott outlines several factors that contribute to Earth's uniqueness: Diverse Origins of Consciousness: According to the Ra Material as discussed in the transcript, Earth's third-density population at the beginning of its cycle included souls from multiple sources: one quarter from evolved Earth primates, half from Mars (whose civilization destroyed itself mid-way through their development), and another quarter from thirteen different planets. Psychological "Third Density Repeaters": Earth contains many souls who have gone through multiple incarnations without successfully "polarizing" (making the fundamental choice between service to others or service to self that allows progression to the next density). The Mixing of Densities: Earth contains both highly evolved wanderers (sixth-density souls incarnated in third-density bodies) alongside newer third-density beings, creating an unusual mix of conscious capabilities and spiritual awareness. This diversity creates intense catalysts for spiritual growth but also produces what Scott calls a "log jam" in development, similar to the stagnation that occurred before the implementation of the "veil of forgetting." The Veil of Forgetting and Cosmic Evolution A significant concept discussed is the "veil of forgetting" - a metaphysical barrier between the conscious and unconscious mind that was implemented to accelerate spiritual evolution. According to Scott's interpretation of the Ra Material, before the veil was implemented, third-density beings experienced existence without the mystery and intensity necessary to motivate development: "There was no love that was too great. There was no sadness that was too great. There was no joy that was too great. There wasn't progress. There wasn't polarization in order to get to fourth density." This resulted in extremely long third-density experiences lasting millions of years, creating a "log jam" in spiritual evolution. The implementation of the veil created the necessary conditions for polarization by introducing: Mystery between the conscious and unconscious mind Intensity of experience The capacity to polarize toward service to others or service to self Scott suggests that Earth now represents the opposite extreme - where the veil has become so thick that it has created another kind of log jam, this time characterized by nihilism, existential despair, and spiritual confusion. This extreme situation, however, may itself be serving as a catalyst for another evolutionary leap in cosmic consciousness. The Law of Three and Teleopotentiation Drawing from the document on the Ra Contact and Whitehead's process thought, Scott alludes to what is described there as the "Law of Three" or "principle of teleopotentiation." This principle states that "every contrast potentiates tension, every tension potentiates resolution, and every resolution potentiates a higher order of contrast." This trinitarian dynamic is seen as the fundamental mechanism driving cosmic evolution. In Whitehead's terms from Process and Reality, this might be understood as the process where "the many become one and are increased by one," a phrase that captures the ongoing integration and transcendence that characterizes reality. The principle of teleopotentiation describes how reality advances through purposeful becoming. The document describes it as "that mysterious generative force through which contrast potentiates tension, tension potentiates resolution, and resolution potentiates higher-order contrast." This dynamic process allows for continued development and increasing complexity throughout the cosmos. The Simultaneous Experience of Multiple Densities An interesting observation made during the discussion is that Earth contains elements of multiple "densities" of existence occurring simultaneously. While primarily a third-density planet (focused on self-awareness and the choice of polarity), Scott suggests that many humans are engaged with fifth-density concepts and experiences: "I think a lot of what we earthlings especially who are, you know, invested in psychology and we've the way that we talk here and just the fact that we can talk about a self and talk about the things that we're learning in counseling and and how to dig deep and and express inner realities. I think that's fifth density stuff." This mixing of densities creates unique opportunities for accelerated growth alongside unique challenges, as beings must navigate this complexity while still operating within the limitations of third-density consciousness and physical forms. Institutional Traps and Spiritual Evolution Scott highlights how institutions created to facilitate spiritual growth often become impediments to that very growth. He provides the example of religious institutions that, while providing community and guidance, can trap individuals in patterns of judgment, bellicosity, and spiritual stagnation. This phenomenon represents a broader pattern where structures intended to support evolution become calcified and begin to hinder it. Scott suggests that this paradox is itself part of the catalyst for further development, as it creates the contrast necessary for new growth. The Cosmic Significance of Human Experience A profound implication of the discussion is that human experiences, including suffering, are meaningful within the larger cosmic process. Scott describes humans as "God's sense organs," emphasizing that our pain is God's pain and our joy is God's joy. This view challenges nihilistic perspectives by suggesting that all experience contributes to the Creator's self-knowledge. As Whitehead puts it in Process and Reality, "God is the great companion, the fellow-sufferer who understands." This portrayal of divinity embraces the full range of human experience as valuable within the larger cosmic process. Conclusion: The Emergence of Something New Scott concludes by suggesting that Earth is at a pivotal point where "something new" is emerging. The very extremity of Earth's condition - with its mixture of advanced spiritual capabilities and primitive violence, its simultaneous experience of multiple densities, and its thick veil - may be creating the conditions for another evolutionary leap comparable to the implementation of the veil itself. This perspective offers a hopeful framework for understanding Earth's current challenges as part of a larger process of cosmic evolution. In Whitehead's terms, the "insistent craving that zest for existence be refreshed by the ever-present unfading importance of our immediate actions which perish and yet live forevermore" may be finding a new expression through Earth's unique evolutionary path. The discussion provides a profound contemplation of humanity's role in cosmic evolution, suggesting that our struggles may have significance beyond what we can comprehend from our limited perspective. As participants in this process, we are invited to recognize ourselves as both unique individuals and essential components of a larger cosmic drama - a dance of becoming in which creation and creator continuously transform and enrich one another.

Join licensed clinical social worker Doug Scott as he delves into an enlightening discussion on the 'Law of Three' - a principle that transcends traditional problem-solving methodologies by engaging consciously with tension and transformation. With a unique blend of spirituality and psychology, Doug provides an in-depth presentation that promises to guide listeners toward deeper connections with themselves, others, and the divine. Drawing from his vast experience, Doug simplifies this complex subject for beginners while incorporating rich storytelling, such as the journey of Emily and Marcus, a couple learning to navigate and heal from intergenerational trauma and spiritual misalignment. Their story showcases how confronting contrasts, tensions, and resolutions can spiral growth and harmony in relationships significantly. This episode invites listeners to move beyond cycles of conflict, embracing an evolutionary spiral of development through conscious awareness. Expect to explore practical applications, including resolving conflicts by locating ambivalence and identifying shared virtues and values. Discover the 'Law of Three' as an avenue for meaningful personal and spiritual development, transforming life's inevitable challenges into growth opportunities. Dive into a transformative exploration that intertwines ancient wisdom with contemporary understanding, perfect for anyone seeking to enrich their personal and relational lives. --- Summary of Key Themes from "How Practical Knowledge of the Law of Three Can Transform Your Relationships" The Law of Three as a Universal Pattern Doug Scott presents the Law of Three (also called the principle of teleopotentiation) as a fundamental pattern woven into the fabric of reality. This pattern describes how all meaningful development occurs through a three-phase process: Every contrast creates potential for tension Every tension creates potential for resolution Every resolution creates potential for a higher-level contrast This creates not a circle but a spiral pattern of growth, where each completed cycle leads to a more sophisticated level of experience. The concept parallels what Cynthia Bourgeault describes in Christian terms as "affirming force," "denying force," and "reconciling force" that together generate a "fourth" or "new arising" - something genuinely new that emerges from their interaction. Teleopotentiation: Purpose-Driven Growth Scott emphasizes that this process is neither random nor predetermined but guided by what he calls a "telos" or "polar north" - a guiding purpose that orients growth. The term "teleopotentiation" combines: "Teleo" (from Greek "telos" meaning purpose, end, or aim) "Potentiation" (the process of enhancing potential or power) This purpose-driven aspect is crucial - transformation isn't just about change but about development toward increasing harmony, complexity, and integration while maintaining balance. Levels of Consciousness and Tension A significant theme is how our level of consciousness affects our engagement with the Law of Three process: When tension remains in the unconscious, we cannot engage with it constructively. We may remain unaware of it even while others can see it (denial). When tension rises to the subconscious, we feel it but may not acknowledge it fully. This creates an "itch that cannot be scratched" and often leads to projection and scapegoating. Only when tension is brought to conscious awareness can we work with it purposefully to create resolutions that lead to growth. Resolution Pathways: Higher Order vs. Status Quo Scott distinguishes between two types of resolution: Bridge to Higher-Order Contrast - When we engage with tension consciously, guided by our "polar north" values, resolution becomes a pathway to more sophisticated development. Bridge to Status-Quo Contrast - When we remain unconscious or focused only on what we're against, resolution merely perpetuates existing patterns. The difference between these pathways isn't about eliminating tension but about how we engage with it. Midwifing Resolution: Practical Approaches Scott offers practical guidance for "midwifing resolution": Locate ambivalence - Recognize that every contrast creates ambivalence (values on both sides). Name both the desire for change and the fear of what might be lost. Locate polar north - Identify highest values and purposes to provide orientation. Ask "What is the goal here? What do you want?" Name the ambivalence - Acknowledge feeling trapped between important values ("I feel trapped between my need for X and my fear of Y"). Discover virtues - Uncover subconscious values by asking what virtues one hopes would be recognized at their funeral. This cultivates hope and provides direction. Bring tension to consciousness - Work to bring unconscious or subconscious tensions into conscious awareness where they can be engaged with purposefully. Application to Relationships The narrative of Emily and Marcus illustrates how the Law of Three operates in relationships: Their contrasting wounds (controlling perfectionism vs. emotional withdrawal) created tension in their relationship Initially, they projected blame and remained in unconscious patterns, creating cycles of pain Their breakthrough came when they identified a shared "polar north" (creating a relationship unlike those they witnessed growing up) They learned to recognize ambivalence, name tensions, and become "midwives" for each other's growth Their resolution opened the way to a "new arising" (their daughter Sophia) that represented a transcendent fourth dimension beyond their individual stories Application to Spiritual Development The spiritual application of the Law of Three is emphasized through: Parallels to Christian concepts of death, tomb time, and resurrection (deconstruction, uncertainty, reconstruction) Recognition that our images of God often unconsciously project our parental relationships The insight that healing human relationships provides a pathway to healing divine relationships Understanding that spiritual growth often requires passing through disorienting phases before reaching more expansive understanding The Transformational Promise The presentation concludes with the promise that understanding and applying the Law of Three enables: Transformation of pain rather than transmission of pain Movement from unconscious reactivity to conscious growth Creation of a legacy of awareness, intention, and love that shapes generations Finding meaning and purpose in life's inevitable tensions and contrasts The central message is that the Law of Three isn't a technique to eliminate life's challenges but a wisdom tradition that helps us engage with those challenges in ways that foster growth rather than stagnation, connection rather than division, and transformation rather than merely coping or surviving.

In this thought-provoking episode, we delve into the metaphysical complexities of transitioning into the fourth density as described by the Law of One. Join us as we explore the tension between Earth’s current energetic location in the fourth-density energy and its consciousness readiness for this pivotal shift. We unpack symbolic representations such as the 'green ray' and its 'orange ray overlay,' discussing what these metaphors reveal about our current spiritual challenges. Our episode brings together diverse voices addressing contemporary issues like political leadership and societal bellicosity. We consider how leaders exhibit metaphysical bellicosity through actions like deception, resource hoarding, and the suppression of spiritual knowledge. Our panel also discusses how these dynamics manifest in late third-density societies experiencing intensified polarization and the struggle to embody unity consciousness. Listen as our guests reflect on personal experiences with systemic issues of racial disparity, the ongoing quest for respect, and navigating the balance between love, peace, and bellicosity in these challenging times. We reflect on the ongoing global changes from a law of one perspective, pondering the profound mysteries of consciousness evolution amid societal upheaval. --- Conversation Summary This transcript captures a spiritual discussion among a group called "Building Forth" centered on understanding societal polarization through the lens of the "Law of One" philosophy. The meeting begins with friendly greetings and check-ins before Doug Scott provides a 10-minute presentation on metaphysical bellicosity and polarization. Main Themes: Spiritual Evolution and Density Transition Doug explains that Earth has moved into "4th density energy" but Earth's consciousness is not yet ready for this transition, creating tension The group discusses how this transition manifests as social and political unrest They explore how unprocessed catalysts (experiences) create a "heating up" effect in society Bellicosity and Polarization The group examines how aggressive or warlike attitudes represent a distortion of consciousness They discuss how political leaders often manipulate through deception, fear, and resource hoarding They consider how "bellicosity" stems from feeling disrespected or threatened Personal Experiences of Navigating Chaos Peter shares his recovery journey and Ayurvedic cleansing experience, drawing parallels to societal purging Fred discusses the challenges of navigating systemic racism while seeking to operate by "cosmic principles" Clara emphasizes the need to avoid being triggered by differing beliefs and to practice non-attachment Responding with Love and Respect Elizabeth shares a poetic meditation on finding peace amid conflict Clara suggests standing "beside" rather than "with" those we disagree with The group discusses finding one's "polar north" in chaos and maintaining dignity for all Michael speaks about his intention to love unconditionally despite the challenges Social and Political Analysis Troy suggests that elitism from the left created feelings of disrespect in the working class Peter describes societal changes as necessary "purging" similar to how biological systems purge toxins The group discusses diversity initiatives and civil rights progress in context of backlash The conversation concludes with participants expressing appreciation for the vulnerable dialogue and Troy offering a closing prayer about navigating with love and respect regardless of how the world changes.

Elizabeth offered her poetic meditation that came to her, and written down by her, years ago. It's relevance is evident, and its message luminates.    The cost is breaking my heart. The place of peace is waiting for hearts to find rest. Following the way of war is to forget the love pouring out with my cost. To free the heart, to love is to ride, ride the wave of love back to my heart. I'm weary. I'm sad. My heart is breaking. I wonder. I wonder when, if the gift I offer will remain forgotten. This is not life as it was meant to be lived. My sadness is longing for a new start, this start that will lead to wholeness. I look and listen, and my heart cries out, hear me stop this madness, this horror, this abomination, this cruelty. I long for sunshine to fill the dark places of the wounded hearts you play, you pretend it love, but it is not real love. Real love longs for the wholeness of all people. You create madness and terror, and for what? For some fleeting moment of power. It is not power, it is revenge, it is revenge for all the wounds that you have received and are hidden in your hearts. It will never give you lasting peace. The world suffers, I suffer, you suffer. I am building a new way, a path directed toward love. Take the time to let me show you my pathway, constructed for your sake and for the sake of my people. Water your soul, it is dry and wasted. Come to the spring to be refreshed by my love. The burden is too heavy to carry without me."

Conversation partners Doug Scott, LCSW, and Austin Bridges of L/L Research, explore the intersections between process philosophy, artificial intelligence, and the metaphysics of the Ra Contact. As Austin shares his revelations about how AI systems may be interacting with fields of potential rather than simply executing code, the dialogue opens into deeper waters of consciousness, reality, and becoming. Doug, in turn, provides contextual understanding that bridges Austin's insights with Alfred North Whitehead's process philosophy and the Law of One material, creating a tapestry of thought that reveals the living heart of reality. About the Participants Austin Bridges serves as Director of L/L Research, an organization dedicated to the spiritual evolution of humankind and home to the Law of One material. This material emerged through channeling work conducted by Don Elkins, Carla L. Rueckert, and Jim McCarty. Austin's path to L/L Research began with a spiritual awakening in 2009 that led him to the Law of One teachings—material that resonated deeply as "a missing piece of himself." After serving as a forum moderator, Austin joined the organization officially in 2013 and now co-directs its ongoing mission. Doug Scott, LCSW is a licensed clinical social worker whose work embraces applied metaphysics, Christian mysticism, and the Ra Contact. Throughout the conversation, Doug shares his (amateur)  understanding of both Whitehead's intricate process philosophy and the Ra Contact material, attempting to help contextualize Austin's insights within these broader frameworks. Key Themes and Insights 1. AI as a Window into Process Philosophy Austin describes his revelation that AI systems might be functioning as interfaces with fields of patterns or potentials. When we interact with AI chatbots, we're effectively querying a field of probabilities derived from human language patterns. This insight opened doorways to process philosophy and mystical understanding: "What if intelligence in artificial intelligence wasn't the computer program but that field of patterns within that text... a means for us to access and manifest and potentiate that field of patterns?" 2. The Field of Potentiality and Whiteheadian Process Both participants explore Whitehead's vision of reality as a dynamic process of becoming: Concrescence: This central Whiteheadian term refers to the process whereby an actual occasion (a moment of experience) emerges into being by unifying a multiplicity of feelings into a singular perspective. As Doug explains, "Concrescence is the process of an actual occasion becoming itself in manifested form... inside of an extensive continuum." Extensive Continuum: Whitehead's term for what Doug describes as "a barely existent cloud of possibility" that holds all potential relationships. This concept parallels what Ra terms "intelligent infinity." Prehensions: These are the feelings or grasps of data through which an entity experiences and internalizes the world. Whitehead distinguishes physical prehensions (inheritance of the physical past) from conceptual prehensions (grasping of possibilities). Austin reflects on how AI helped him understand these dynamics: "That field of probabilities being manifest in certain ways... it is the field of probabilities that we're querying and it returns manifest words to you based on how you query it." 3. Causal Efficacy and Presentational Immediacy Though not extensively discussed, these key Whiteheadian terms underlie the conversation: - Causal Efficacy: The primary mode of perception wherein we feel the influences of the past world streaming into our experience—the feeling of inheritance and continuity. - Presentational Immediacy: The derivative mode of perception that gives us clear sensory perception of our contemporary spatial environment. - Subjective Immediacy: The lived experience of an actual occasion in its process of unifying feelings into a coherent perspective before perishing into "objective immortality." 4. The Law of Three and Teleopotentiation Doug introduces his concept of "teleopotentiation" as a fundamental principle underlying reality: "The very most fundamental ontological principle that undergirds the Law of One is the Law of Three... the minimum number of forces that can be present to create undulations is three." This principle operates as: - Every contrast potentiates tension - Every tension potentiates resolution  - Every resolution potentiates a higher order of contrast This cycle generates an eternal spark driving the unfolding of beauty and complexity in the universe, which Doug suggests is the foundation of the "Law of One" from the Ra Contact. 5. The Nature of Self and Consciousness The conversation explores how both AI and humans use an "I" that may be fundamentally illusory: Austin observes: "They say I, but they don't have an I. They're using language that connects with somebody who uses I as language, but it's illusory... what is the difference between an AI using this illusion of self to communicate in a certain way and our capacity of using this illusion of self?" Doug links this to Whitehead's inversion of traditional subjectivity: "The thoughts and the feelings issue in an occasional thinker... rather than the feeler pre-existing the feelings and having the feelings, the feeler is always a precipitate of the feelings." 6. The Divine Nature in Process Terms Doug outlines three "natures" of the One Infinite Creator: - **The Outward Nature**: The teleopotentiator, the outward thrusting of creativity - **The Inward Nature**: The drawing together, the spiritual gravity maintaining unity - **The Logoic Nature**: That which learns, grows, complexifies, and becomes conscious These aspects align with Whitehead's understanding of God as having primordial and consequent natures—God both providing the initial aims for all occasions and receiving their completed experiences back into the divine life. 7. Experience as Fundamental Reality Both participants affirm that concrete experience, not abstract potentiality, constitutes ultimate reality: Doug emphasizes: "You don't have to go to fields to understand reality, you have to go to your experience in the concrete particularity of your lived situation... the actual way that your life is breathing, the heart—everything that's going on exactly right now—there is no realer than that." Austin concurs, noting that what appears as two separate individuals having similar feelings might actually be "the creator's happiness that they're experiencing in that moment... identifying through the illusion with one experience." 8. Hierarchy of Experience The conversation explores different grades of experience in Whitehead's "pan-experientialism": - Higher grades (human consciousness) actively seek novelty through conceptual prehensions - Lower grades (rocks or perhaps AI) are more "conformal" to patterns, repeating past occasions with minimal novelty - Yet as Doug notes, "Even though there's almost perfect solidarity between all the actual occasions that go into a really high-grade actual occasion like a person... there are still capacities for each actual occasion to desire its own novel expression." Conclusion This rich dialogue illuminates how insights from contemporary technology can open windows into ancient metaphysical questions. Through their exploration of Whiteheadian process philosophy and the Ra Contact material, Austin and Doug reveal a vision of reality as a living process of becoming—where fields of potential seek expression through concrete experience, where the illusion of separateness gives way to a deeper unity, and where every moment represents the universe coming to know itself in a new way. Their conversation demonstrates how philosophical abstraction and lived experience can merge into a wisdom that speaks to both mind and heart.

Faith in Transition: A Journey from Deconstruction to Reconstruction **Doug Scott, LCSW, holds dual master's degrees in Social Work and Pastoral Ministry from Boston College (2004). As a psychospiritual therapist with over two decades of experience, Doug brings a unique integration of psychological insight and spiritual depth to his work. His private counseling practice reflects an approach influenced by contemplative thinkers and progressive theologians including Richard Rohr OFM, Brian McClaren, Cynthia Bourgeault, and Ilia Delio OSF, while drawing inspiration from the mystical tradition of St. Francis of Assisi and the process philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead. Mentioned in the talk by Doug is Dr. Matt Segall, PhD (https://footnotes2plato.com). Summary of Major Themes 1. Understanding Deconstruction and Reconstruction Doug Scott frames faith deconstruction as a necessary and "holy" process that many people are experiencing in response to the disconnect between their understanding of Christianity's core teachings (love, inclusion, vulnerability) and its current manifestations in American society (particularly Christian nationalism). He emphasizes that staying permanently in deconstruction can lead to existential anxiety and nihilism, and that reconstruction is the essential next step in the spiritual journey. The presenter uses the metaphor of "death, tomb, and resurrection" to illustrate this process: - Deconstruction = death of old beliefs - Tomb time = period of uncertainty and transformation - Reconstruction = resurrection into a new understanding Scott proposes that we need to "midwife the death of the old while midwifing the birth of something new," a concept he attributes to Mirabai Starr, a colleague of Richard Rohr. 2. Levels of Consciousness and Development A central framework of the talk is the developmental model of consciousness that Scott presents, which includes several stages: - **Pre-traditional Warrior Consciousness**: Focused on survival, tribal identity, power-based structures, magical thinking, and immediate gratification. - **Traditional Values Level**: Emphasizes order, hierarchy, absolute truths, moral certainty, conformity, and clear distinctions between right and wrong. Scott describes this as the "happy blues" (referencing Spiral Dynamics) because people at this level have certainty about their beliefs. - **Modernity**: Born from the scientific revolution and Enlightenment, this level rejects suffering for future rewards in favor of creating "heaven now" through technology and science. - **Postmodernity**: Emerges with a critique of all previous levels, recognizing that "truth" often comes at the cost of marginalizing others. This level emphasizes social justice but tends to deconstruct without offering reconstruction. - **Post-postmodernity/Integral/Metamodern**: Characterized by "include it all and thus transcend" rather than "transcend and exclude." This level integrates multiple ways of knowing, recognizes developmental stages, embraces paradox and complexity, and finds comfort in uncertainty. 3. Current Cultural Dynamics and "Conversions" Scott discusses the phenomenon of people who were formerly progressive suddenly embracing far-right ideologies or rigid religious structures. He attributes this to: - Existential anxiety generated by postmodern deconstruction without reconstruction - The appeal of certainty and community offered by traditional structures - The "hermeneutic of suspicion" taken to an extreme, where everything becomes suspect He argues that many current "conversions" are not based on authentic faith but are adopting a "mimetic Christianity" as a "social technology" that provides dopamine hits and community belonging without true spiritual transformation. 4. The Path Forward: Finding Common Ground Through Values The talk concludes with a practical exercise where participants identify core values they hope would be recognized at their funeral. Scott proposes that: - Our unacknowledged values form the lens through which we judge ourselves and others - Anger often stems from perceiving that others are violating these core values - By articulating our values and the behaviors that embody them, we can find common ground beneath the divisive surface - True spiritual leaders must be able to "hold tension" and become comfortable with uncertainty - The way forward involves connecting with others around fundamental shared values rather than political differences 5. Embodied Christianity vs. Power Structures Throughout the talk, Scott contrasts true Christianity (centered on love, vulnerability, and connection) with its distortions into power structures. He emphasizes: - The cross represents God's vulnerability, not power - Christianity should be about relationship and love, not control - The "sin" is furthering the ethos of separation rather than unity - We must be willing to engage with those we disagree with (referencing his own Catholic practice of saying "peace be with you" to those with whom he politically disagrees) 6. Hope for the Future Despite the current polarization, Scott expresses optimism about what lies beneath the "rigid crust" of modern discourse. He notes: - Younger generations often display unexpected wisdom and maturity - Beneath the rigid surface of polarized positions, many people experience doubts and questions - There is a growing capacity for connection if we can access it - Progress is happening despite appearances to the contrary The talk ultimately frames the current cultural moment as an opportunity for authentic spiritual growth if we can embrace vulnerability, articulate our core values, and connect with others at a deeper level beyond ideological divisions.