

The Burn Bag Podcast
Burn Bag Media
We’re here to redefine how scholars and policymakers approach national security and foreign policy. Join us, as we make sense of a world in crisis.
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Feb 25, 2022 • 45min
What in the World?: Ukraine Under Attack (02/25/22)
In this episode, A'ndre and Ryan discuss Russia's invasion of Ukraine. They breakdown where analysts (and Ryan) went wrong, how the offensive has unfolded, and what the next days and weeks may look like. Please check out these Twitter accounts to stay up-to-date on the war:Rob LeeMicheal KofmanChristopher MillerIllia PonomarenkoNeil Hauer

Feb 21, 2022 • 57min
Inside the IC: Classification, Whistleblowing, and Oversight with Former ODNI General Counsel Jason Klitenic
In this episode, Ryan is joined by former ODNI General Counsel Jason Klitenic. Jason begins by providing an overview of his career, noting why he joined the US government and what is was like working to stand up DHS after 9/11. He then discusses the structure of the ODNI and how the interagency process works in practice. Jason, who served as a senior official and counsel to the DNI, talks about what it was like to work as the top lawyer for the IC as well as the classification and declassification processes, clearances, and oversight. The conversation concludes with Jason's thoughts about intelligence sharing, civil liberties, and emerging threats.

Feb 14, 2022 • 1h 6min
2022 Olympics Special: The War on the Uyghurs with Professor Sean Roberts
With all eyes on China for the 2022 Beijing Olympics, we decided to rerelease our conversation with Professor Sean Roberts on the Uyghur cultural genocide. This episode, originally published in November 2020, discusses the history of the Uyghurs, how China came to view them as a threat, and what the international community can do to stop this cultural genocide. Our conversation is based on Professor Roberts' book, The War on the Uyghurs: China's Internal Campaign against a Muslim Minority.

Feb 11, 2022 • 28min
What in the World?: US Intel Says Russia Will Invade, Biden Releases Afghanistan Aid, and a Hijab Ban in India (02/11/22)
In this week's episode, A'ndre and Ryan react to reports that US intelligence belie Putin has decided to invade Ukraine. They also discuss the use of seized Afghan Central Bank funds for humanitarian aid and a 9/11 victim fund, the banning of the hijab in an Indian state, and the Canadian trucker protest.

Feb 7, 2022 • 59min
Not a Failure of Imagination: COVID-19's Lessons Learned with Johns Hopkins Professor Gigi Gronvall
This week, we speak with Johns Hopkins Professor Gigi Gronvall, a leading biosecurity expert who has tracked and monitored the scientific response to COVID-19, in addition to having served on and led varying government sponsored committees/groups advising the Defense Department on varying global health issues. Professor Gronvall discusses the response to COVID-19, asserting that the now years-long crisis isn't a failure of the imagination -- but rather a problem of attention and funding. Professor Gronvall compares the U.S. response to the pandemic to that of other countries, while also dispelling common myths about the virus. Professor Gronvall provides her take on the misinformation that has circulated around the pandemic, talks about the pandemic's uncertain origins, and what future concerns for further mutations currently look like. We also evaluate China's Zero-COVID policy, in addition to framing COVID-19 as a national security issue, applying some of the lessons learned to future preparation for both pandemics and purposeful biowarfare.Here is Professor Gronvall's paper on the origin of SARS-CoV-2.

Feb 4, 2022 • 29min
What in the World?: US-led Operation Kills ISIS Leader, Russian Tactics Unveiled, and Xi Jinping's Olympics (02/04/22)
In this week's episode, A'ndre and Ryan breakdown the US-led operation in Syria that killed the leader of ISIS with Javed Ali. They also discuss how the US release of a Russian false flag plans impacts the current crisis and delegitimizes any Russian claims of defense. The conversation ends with an update on British PM Johnson and the kickoff of the Beijing Olympics.

Jan 31, 2022 • 1h 2min
The Edge of War: Will Russia Invade Ukraine (Again) with Former Ambassador Ian Kelly
In this week's episode, A'ndre and Ryan speak with former U.S. Ambassador to OSCE Ian Kelly on the question of whether Russia will invade Ukraine. Ambassador Kelly, who also served as chief diplomat to Georgia, discusses the 2008 Russo-Georgian War and Russia's perspective on NATO expansion. Ambassador Kelly also covers the War in Ukraine's Donbas and speaks on the Russian-backed separatists there, and discusses the OSCE process (the OSCE being the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, an intergovernmental body) with Ukraine. The Ambassador provides his perspective on the question of whether Russia will invade, and gives his take on if the Biden Administration's response has been satisfactory.

Jan 26, 2022 • 40min
Snap Podcast: Dissecting the Russia/Ukraine Crisis
In our very first snap podcast, A'ndre and Ryan are joined by special guests Tyler Breeden and Theodore Tymowski. They begin by providing an update on the current situation and a brief overview. The conversation then delves into why Russia is so fixated on Ukraine, what the force posture looks like, and if an invasion is imminent. The group outlines individual projections on if and how an invasion could unfold before discussing deterrent mechanisms.To learn more, check out these sources:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-seeks-protect-europes-energy-supplies-if-russia-invades-ukraine-2022-01-25/https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-places-hundreds-of-troops-on-standby-for-deployment-to-eastern-europe-in-standoff-with-russia-11643051349https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/24/ukraine-eu-us-embassy-russia/https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/01/21/russia-sanctions-stop-putin-energy-markets-us-invasion-527524https://www.fpri.org/article/2022/01/moscows-compellence-strategy/https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russia-fsu/2021-12-28/what-putin-really-wants-ukrainehttps://warsawinstitute.org/occupied-donbas-stronghold-russian-military/https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1498.html

Jan 24, 2022 • 1h 9min
"Damascus Station": Former CIA Analyst David McCloskey on his Spy Novel set in Syria's Civil War
David McCloskey, a former CIA analyst with a focus on the Middle East, discusses his spy thriller 'Damascus Station,' set during Syria's Civil War. He shares insights into his journey from analytical writing to fiction, crafting a narrative that intertwines romance and espionage. The podcast delves into character complexities amid war, the historical context of the Syrian conflict, and the internal dynamics of the Assad regime. McCloskey also talks about the challenges of navigating the CIA's pre-publication review process and teases his next project on CIA strategies against Putin.

Jan 21, 2022 • 29min
What in the World?: Biden's Ukraine Flub, an Interim Havana Syndrome Report, and the Houthis Attack Abu Dhabi (01/21/22)
In this week's episode, A'ndre and Ryan provide an update on the Russia/Ukraine crisis, predict Boris Johnson's fate, and dig into the CIA's interim Havana Syndrome report. They also discuss the tragic volcano eruption in Tonga, North Korea's renewed antics, and the likely designation of the Houthis as a terrorist organization.