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Nov 21, 2021 • 25min
291: A Shot to Save the World: The Story Behind the Covid Vaccine!
It’s been 2 years since Covid-19 first became the major global topic. I must admit, if you told me back then that we’d still be wearing masks and living our lives with Covid-19 precautions every day, I would have never believed you.
So much about this period in time is extraordinary. It’s hard to really appreciate that as we continue to live in the moment while this chapter in history continues to unfold.
We continue to see new variants pop up, we see ongoing restrictions to everyday life, and we are starting to see the economic impact of unprecedented monetary and fiscal stimulus including inflation rates not seen in over three decades.
Eventually the events during these years will take up a lot of chapters in a lot of history books. And through the lens of history we will decide what we did right and what we should have done differently. Certainly, there were many mistakes made along the way but we also had a lot of successes.
One of the most underappreciated accomplishments throughout this period was the extraordinarily fast development of an effective vaccine through the combined efforts of the public and private sectors.
New York Times bestselling author, Gregory Zuckerman, provides an inside story of this miraculous success in his new book A Shot to Save the World. I had a chance to interview him about the book for this week’s episode of Wealth Formula Podcast. Don’t miss it!
Gregory Zuckerman is a Special Writer at The Wall Street Journal. He is an investigative reporter who writes about various investing and business topics.
Greg is the author of A Shot to Save the World: A Shot to Save the World: The Inside Story of the Life-or-Death Race for a COVID-19 Vaccine, published by PenguinRandomHouse’s Portfolio division October 2021.
Greg is also the author of The Man Who Solved the Market: How Jim Simons Launched a Quant Revolution, a New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestseller. The book, which is being translated into 17 languages, was shortlisted by the Financial Times/McKinsey and the Society for Advancing Business Editing and Writing as one of the best business books of 2019.
Greg also is the author of The Frackers: The Outrageous Inside Story of the New Billionaire Wildcatters, a national bestseller published October 2014 that describes how several unlikely individuals created an American energy renaissance that has brought OPEC to its knees. The Frackers was named among 2014’s best books by The Financial Times and Forbes Magazine. Previously, Greg wrote The Greatest Trade Ever: The Behind-the-Scenes Story of How John Paulson Defied Wall Street and Made Financial History, a New York Times and Wall Street Journal best seller published December 2010.
Greg and his two sons wrote Rising Above: How 11 Athletes Overcame Challenges in their Youth to Become Stars and Rising Above-Inspiring Women in Sports, books that are aimed at inspiring young readers with stories of how stars in various sports overcame imposing setbacks in their youth. The books were chosen by Scholastic Teacher magazine as top picks in 2016 and 2017.
Greg is a three-time winner of the Gerald Loeb award, the highest honor in business journalism. He won the Loeb Award in 2015 for a series of stories revealing discord between Bill Gross, founder of bond powerhouse Pimco, and others at the firm, stories that led to his departure. In 2012, Greg broke news about huge, disastrous trades by the J.P. Morgan trader nicknamed the “London Whale,” trades that resulted in $6.2 billion losses for the bank.
Greg appears regularly on CNBC, Fox Business and other networks and he makes appearances on radio stations around the globe.
Greg joined the Journal in 1996 after writing about media companies for the New York Post. He graduated from Brandeis University in 1988. Greg lives with his wife and two sons in West Orange, N.J., where they enjoy the New York Yankees in the summer, root for the Giants in the fall, and reminisce about Linsanity in the winter.
Shownotes:
The incredible success story of Moderna
What is Operation Warp Speed?
Why use mRNA for vaccines?
The Moderna vaccine patent issue
What lessons can we learn from the way we dealt with the current Covid crisis?

Nov 14, 2021 • 38min
290: What are the 7 Deadly Economic Sins?
At the core of every individual’s subconscious there is a wealth thermostat. What sets the temperature is a combination of nature and nurture. Once it’s set, it’s difficult to change it. But if you know you have a thermostat, it’s a lot easier to change your mindset.
What do I mean by this? Well, think about yourself for a moment. Are you $200K/year type? $500K or a million/year type? Now, try to imagine yourself with either one more or one less zero behind your yearly income. Does that fit with your image of yourself? I’m sure it doesn’t.
If you are a $500K/year type, it’s good that you don’t see yourself as a $50K type because it’s what keeps you from becoming that person again (not that it’s a bad thing). But that limited image of yourself is also what will keep you from becoming a $5 million/year person.
I know this sounds like a lot of psychobabble but I truly believe it. The money thermostat exists. I have recognized it in myself and manipulated it several times in my life already.
Now the question is why we would limit ourselves to a certain amount of money. Certainly you can understand not wanting to be poor, but why would you create mental blocks from becoming a great deal wealthier than you are?
Well, maybe part of you doesn’t want to be rich. Maybe you grew up believing that rich people only got there because they took advantage of the poor. Maybe you believe that there is a finite amount of wealth out there and to take more than your share is greedy.
After all, we live in a Judeo-Christian society. The Bible says that money is the root of all evil. What was once considered “usury”, arguably is the basis of our economy now!
Our cultural baggage on money is deep and would require years of national therapy to unravel. But its effects are not hard to see in the modern, guilt-laden financial politics of progressive left today.
The truth is that money is a tool and a fool with a tool…is still a fool. But it can also do so much good. It can take away hunger and alleviate pain. It can and has raised the standard of living for the entire world.
Wealth is not bad. Wealth is a gift to us created by capitalism. All you need to corroborate that statement is to look at world history through the lens of economics.
Yet, politicians cannot escape what my guest on this week’s Wealth Formula Podcast, James Otteson, calls the 7 Deadly Economic Sins, that continue to mislead people and misdirect policy.
Make sure to tune in to this week’s show to make sure you don’t fall into these mental traps!
James R. Otteson is the John T. Ryan Jr. Professor of Business Ethics in the Mendoza College of Business at the University of Notre Dame. He received his BA from Notre Dame and a PhD from the University of Chicago, and has taught at Wake Forest University, Yeshiva University, NYU, Georgetown, and the University of Alabama. His published work focuses on Adam Smith, eighteenth-century moral and political thought, liberalism, political economy, and business ethics.
Shownotes:
Dr. Otteson’s book Seven Deadly Economic Sins: Obstacles to Prosperity and Happiness Every Citizen Should Know
Is capitalism is a zero-sum game?
Would society be better if we punish the rich?
The wave of cultural stigma against being rich

Nov 13, 2021 • 47min
HNW Charitable Strategies that are PROFITABLE
Last week I did an emergency podcast to make sure everyone is aware of an upcoming change related to the whole life policies we use inside of Wealth Formula Banking. It all revolves around recent changes made to IRC Section 7702, with is the IRS code that dictates how life insurance policies are taxed.
Since the 1980’s, the code mandated insurance companies who offer whole life to offer a 4% guaranteed interest rate on the cash value. Well, as you know, interest rates have come a long way since then. In essence, the change allows the insurance companies to choose the minimum rate they’ll offer on their products, putting it somewhere between 2.0–3.75%. The companies who have already released their new product have come in at a 3% guarantee.
To be clear, anyone who has one of these policies will continue to get your 4%. And, it isn’t as if the total return in these policies will all of a sudden drop dramatically. The change really only impacts things if the total return including the dividend, which is currently between 5–6%, drops to a level where we start bumping into the guaranteed rates.
With that being said, if you are someone who is planning on or even considering using Wealth Formula Banking to increase investment profits and would like to lock in the 4% guarantee, you’ll want to get the process started ASAP in order to make sure we hit the end-of-year deadline. The underwriting process typically takes 4–6 weeks to complete, and we expect to see a large surge of new business as we get closer to the deadline of January 1, so the sooner we act, the better chance we have of getting it done before the deadline!
If you’d like to review this option for yourself, send a message to rod@wealthformulabanking.com to discuss and decide the best course of action.
Now, in the spirit of Life Insurance Related Strategies, I am releasing a bonus podcast shortly about charitable strategies that involve life insurance. The interesting thing about these strategies, as you will see, is that they are win-win-win propositions. And for the high net worth individuals who can implement them can end up giving a ton of money but receiving even more.
It’s real and it’s perfectly legal. Listen to the podcast HERE.

Nov 7, 2021 • 42min
289: Is Bitcoin the Next Layer of Money?
I began talking about cryptocurrency on Wealth Formula Podcast in 2017. Many joined the crypto world after that and have made a significant amount of money. If you are one of those people…you’re welcome!
Those who stayed on the sidelines often felt, for good reason, that cryptocurrency was just a big digital fad and that it would probably die out like tulips of the past.
Well, there was a deep frost that did kill many projects between then and now, but one thing is now very clear. Cryptocurrency is here to stay.
Now learning about cryptocurrency is a little challenging because, in my humble opinion, it is actually more than one thing.
Let me summarize how I see the cryptosphere today. There is bitcoin which has established itself, even at the level of governments, as a digital asset with intrinsic value—a type of digital gold. Then, there are cryptocurrencies that are not bitcoin. These are known as alternative coins or altcoins.
To me, each of these altcoin projects are essentially a tech start-up. Bitcoin purists like calling altcoins “shit coins” and promise that they will all eventually fade away. I don’t personally believe that prophecy.
Let’s riff off of this idea that each altcoin is a tech start-up. Back in the dot com era there were companies like Amazon, Google and Apple that became legends in the tech sector. There were also companies like pets.com that went belly up in flames.
That’s what I think is going to happen with the alt space in cryptocurrency. Most of these tokens will be losers but there will be a handful of projects that will become household names or will simply become part of the fabric of daily life.
Today, you certainly see that some are less risky than others. Ethereum is a pretty safe bet to be in that future successful crew. It’s likely to be worth a lot more in 10 years than it is today. As far as crypto goes, this would be a blue-chip stock. Others will be more risky bets, but the gains could dwarf those that will be seen by Ethereum investors.
You could go down the line and make an argument about a number of decentralized protocols, a potential long-term success or failure. I look at them the same way I would look at startup companies and invest in them with my asymmetric portfolio accordingly.
But getting back to bitcoin—it’s totally different from the alts. Bitcoin is not a tech company. Bitcoin’s closest comparison in today’s financial world is gold. And as Wall Street and various governments start to adopt bitcoin, you can see it make its way into the future of money.
Nik Bhatia sees this economic history unfolding in real-time and will explain it to all of us in this week’s episode of Wealth Formula Podcast. Listen HERE.
Nik Bhatia is a financial researcher, CFA charterholder, and adjunct professor of finance and business economics at the University of Southern California Marshall School of Business where he teaches Applied Finance in Fixed Income Securities. Previously, Nik worked the US Treasuries trading desk for a large institutional asset manager and has extensive trading experience in money markets and interest rate futures. After starting his teaching career, Nik felt the urge to bring his research on both the international monetary system and Bitcoin together as one to write the book titled Layered Money: From Gold and Dollars to Bitcoin and Central Bank Digital Currencies. He has a BA in social sciences from University of Southern California and a Master in Finance from IE Business School in Madrid, Spain. Nik lives in Los Angeles, CA, with his wife and young daughter.
Shownotes:
Layered Money: From Gold and Dollars to Bitcoin and Central Bank Digital Currencies
How does Bitcoin fit into the natural progression of gold and Fiat currencies?
Does Nik see any influence from governments like the IRS that actually are going to change the trajectory of Bitcoin?
The Fed Coin

Nov 2, 2021 • 9min
Urgent Wealth Formula Banking Announcement!
This is a 5 minute update on Wealth Formula Banking changes that are occurring because of current tax legislation. PLEASE LISTEN NOW!

Oct 31, 2021 • 35min
288: Dennis Gartman: Inflation, the Fed and Trouble Ahead!
It’s not easy becoming a physician. You have to be at the top of your class in college to get into medical school. Then medical school itself is a pretty big commitment. Of course, I’m one of those crazies who added 7 years of residency training to my education.
But by the time you get done with all of that training, you really do get an opportunity to master a body of knowledge. And while medicine is always changing, what we know about human physiology doesn’t change much these days—at least the basics.
You know that the heart has to keep beating and your brain needs to keep functioning to live. You know that it’s better not to be obese and that cigarettes are bad for your health for a myriad of reasons.
There is some beauty in knowing the consistencies of the human body—that despite the fact that futuristic medicine is on the way and will change the way we live, the basic knowledge of form and function of the human body remains constant. That makes it easier as a practitioner.
Now if you are on the diagnostic side of the economy, it’s a little different. What financial diagnosticians, aka economists, use as the core principles to predict the health and well-being of the economy are in flux. The rules are changing rapidly. This has made it much easier to predict the rhythm of the heart than the future pulse of the economy.
It used to be that the United States Federal Reserve Bank had two mandates: to maximize employment and to stabilize prices. It typically did not respond to the whims of the financial markets. In other words, if the heart stopped on the New York Stock Exchange, stocks would get crushed and there would be no immediate resuscitative effort by the federal government or the Fed.
Now, the rules seem a little different. The Fed artificially suppresses interest rates and responds briskly to any potential downturn. The Fed responds to what’s going on in the stock market—emboldening people to continue investing even during the pandemic when it made no sense to have sky-high asset prices.
The net result, in my view, is that whatever rules we played by in the past don’t matter anymore. It’s a free for all. We are living in times characterized by an artificial economy without natural cycles or anything else that you could previously use to forecast its future.
And let me be clear, I’m not imposing my ideology here. I’m simply making an observation of the way I believe things actually are. On a recent episode of Wealth Formula, Marin Katusa made the point that as investors, our job is not to be stuck in dogmatic positions because of our beliefs. It is to respond to the reality on the ground.
So with this chaotic new economic paradigm, it is interesting to speak to someone from the economic old guard. Dennis Gartman is famous for his Gartman Letters that he consistently wrote since the early 1970s until just recently.
In this episode of Wealth Formula Podcast, I discuss what Dennis thinks is going on in the current economy and what his predictions are for the coming years—especially in light of what is an obvious new world economic order.
Listen HERE.
Mr. Gartman has been directly involved in the capital markets since August of 1974, after his graduate work at the North Carolina State University.
He was an economist for Cotton, Inc. in the early 1970′s, analyzing cotton supply/demand in the U.S. textile industry. From there he went to NCNB National Bank in Charlotte, North Carolina where he traded foreign exchange and money market instruments. In the late 70′s, Mr. Gartman became the Chief Financial Futures analyst for A.G. Becker & Company in Chicago, Illinois. Mr. Gartman was an independent member of the Chicago Board of Trade until 1984, trading in Treasury bond, Treasury note and GNMA futures contracts. In 1984, Mr. Gartman moved to Virginia to run the futures brokerage operation for the Sovran Bank, and in 1987 Mr. Gartman began producing The Gartman Letter on a full time basis. He continues to do so today.
Clients of The Gartman Letter, L.C. include many of the leading banks, broking firms, mutual funds, hedge funds, energy trading companies, and grain trading companies. Mr. Gartman has lectured on capital market creation to central banks and finance ministries around the world, and has taught classes for the Federal Reserve Bank’s School for Bank Examiners on derivatives. Mr. Gartman served a two-year term as an outside Director of the Kansas City Board of Trade from 2006-2008. He is the Chairman of the Akron University Investment Committee, serves on the Investment Committee at the North Carolina State University, and is a member of the Suffolk Industrial Development Authority. Mr. Gartman appears often in financial media discussing commodities and the capital markets, and speaks before various associations and trade groups around the world.

Oct 24, 2021 • 56min
287: Artificial Intelligence, the Robot Revolution and the New World Order!
I am a natural entrepreneur. It’s not something I tried to be. I’m just wired this way.
School does not teach you to be an entrepreneur. However, there is no doubt that certain subjects parallel my thinking as an entrepreneur.
It may surprise you to know that the classes I took that most resemble my way of entrepreneurial thinking, were in the area of organic chemistry.
Higher level organic chemistry relies on integrating the knowledge of how chemicals interact in order to create new relationships.
My organic chemistry exams typically consisted of just a couple of exercises. There would be an image of one complex molecular structure and then another more complex molecular structure.
The exercise would be to use all of the chemical reactions that I learned as tools to help me figure out the appropriate reactions in appropriate sequence to make one structure out of the other.
There were often multiple ways of doing it. You just had to prove that the way you got to your destination was supported by all of the chemical interactions that were possible.
It was challenging for sure. In fact, organic chemistry is considered the primary “weeder” class for pre-med students. Most people didn’t like it much.
I was one of those odd balls who really liked organic chemistry and excelled at it. In fact, my campus job for two years in college was to serve as an organic chemistry tutor.
I loved the idea of solving complex problems via logical progressive reactions. There was a certain creativity about it that I now find in my entrepreneurial life.
In organic chemistry, the primary limitations of the problems I could solve were chemical reactions, with which I was not familiar. If I had the knowledge of a reaction, it served as a tool for solving problems. If I wasn’t aware of the tools that I needed, then I couldn’t solve the problem.
There is an interesting parallel with that limitation in the entrepreneurial world. First, you have to recognize a problem. You have to at least be exposed to it. If you don’t have any exposure in a particular field, then you don’t know what the problems and inefficiencies are.
That is to say, if you are in the medical field, you know what the problems that need to be solved are because you are confronted with them every day. Where there is a problem, there is a business.
However, someone with an entrepreneurial mind can only solve that problem if he is familiar with that specific inefficiency in the medical field. He may be the guy to solve the problem, but he will never know it.
Therefore, I contend that the best thing for an entrepreneur to do is to learn about as much stuff as he can in hopes of finding problems. The benefit of broad education spanning multiple fields, is the ability to use tools acquired in one field to tackle problems in others. In organic chemistry parlance this would be akin to learning more chemical reactions to solve different kinds of organic chemistry problems.
These days, my entrepreneurial spirit is focused on investing. You know by now that most of the time, I like to keep it boring. Apartment buildings and self-storage are things that people need and will continue to need in the foreseeable future.
However, as an investor, it would be foolish for me to not pay attention to technology. Wouldn’t it have been great to get in early on the internet? What about blockchain? I started talking to you about bitcoin and blockchain in 2017 when I discovered it for myself.
Many of you benefitted from those podcasts significantly through the financial gains we have seen in that arena since then. But what if we got in just a couple years earlier?
So what should we be paying attention to now? I think the next major technology disruption will be in the field of artificial intelligence (AI). We are already seeing it play out in real time. But believe me, we haven’t seen anything yet.
AI may be the single biggest technology disruption the world will see in the next decade. We need to pay attention to it. It will change our lives in ways that we can’t even imagine. And when you are aware of that kind of disruption on the horizon, you have an opportunity to make a lot of money along the way.
Martin Ford is one of the world’s leading experts on Artificial Intelligence and is my guest on this week’s episode of Wealth Formula Podcast.
You won’t want to miss this interview! Listen HERE!
Martin Ford is a futurist and the author of four books, including Rule of the Robots: How Artificial Intelligence Will Transform Everything (2021), the New York Times Bestselling Rise of the Robots: Technology and the Threat of a Jobless Future (winner of the 2015 Financial Times/McKinsey Business Book of the Year Award and translated into more than 20 languages), Architects of Intelligence: The truth about AI from the people building it (2018), and The Lights in the Tunnel: Automation, Accelerating Technology and the Economy of the Future (2009). He is also the founder of a Silicon Valley-based software development firm.
His TED Talk on the impact of artificial intelligence and robotics on the economy and society, given on the main stage at the 2017 TED Conference, has been viewed over 3 million times. Martin is also the consulting artificial intelligence expert for the new Robotics and AI ETF from Lyxor/Societe Generale (Ticker ROAI), which is focused specifically on investing in companies that will be significant participants in the AI and robotics revolution. He holds a computer engineering degree from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor and a graduate business degree from the University of California, Los Angeles.
MFord_TEDHe has written about future technology and its implications for publications including The New York Times, Fortune, Forbes, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, Harvard Business Review, The Guardian and The Financial Times. He has also appeared on numerous radio and television shows, including NPR, CNBC, CNN, MSNBC and PBS. Martin is a frequent keynote speaker on the subject of accelerating progress in robotics and artificial intelligence—and what these advances mean for the economy, job market and society of the future.
Martin continues to focus on entrepreneurship and is an active board member of Genesis Systems, a startup company that has developed a revolutionary atmospheric water generation (AWG) technology. Genesis will soon deploy automated, self powered systems that will generate water directly from the air at industrial scale in the world’s most arid regions.
Shownotes:
What is Artificial Intelligence?
The possible dangers of AI
Where is the US compared to other countries when it comes to AI technology?
Blockchain and AI
https://mfordfuture.com

Oct 17, 2021 • 38min
286: Ninja Tax Strategies with Tom Wheelwright!
At our Wealth Formula meetup in Dallas a few weeks ago my CPA, Tom Wheelwright, got up on stage and surprised me.
Tom is a very smart guy. He wrote one of the books that I consider a “must read” for personal finance called Tax Free Wealth.
He is the Michael Jordan of CPA’s. He has several high profile clients including Robert Kiyosaki and is Robert’s Rich Dad Advisor on taxes.
I thought I had read up on or been exposed to just about every strategy Tom taught, but then he got up on stage and completely caught me off guard with a structure I hadn’t before seen.
It solves one of the biggest questions that high earning business owners have—how to turn active income into passive income.
Of course, being able to use depreciation losses from real estate is a tremendous advantage. But if you are not a real estate professional, you can’t use those passive losses against your active income.
But…if you can figure out how to turn that active income into passive income, then you can benefit from all of those tax advantages that real estate provides against your earned income.
Tom got up on stage and drew out a structure that not only showed the way to convert active income into passive income, but also showed how to do it while creating bullet proof asset protection and estate planning benefits that would survive even if the current tax legislation passed in entirety.
Not bad right?
Well, after that talk, I got a lot of questions about how this all worked so I decided to ask Tom to come on our show and explain it to all of our Wealth Formula community. And lucky for us…he agreed.
Curious on how it works? Make sure to tune into this week’s Wealth Formula Podcast!
Tom Wheelwright, CPA is the visionary and best selling author behind multiple companies that specializing in wealth and tax strategy. Tom is also a leading expert and published author on partnerships and corporation tax strategies, a well-known platform speaker and a wealth education innovator.
In Tom’s best selling book Tax-Free Wealth, Tom shows entrepreneurs and investors how to build massive amounts of wealth through practical and strategic ways to permanently reduce taxes.

Oct 10, 2021 • 51min
285: Chinese Evergrande and the state of the Global Economy!
Economics is a social science. While science is knowledge and application of existing aspects of the world and applications through physical laws, mathematics and research, social sciences deal with society and human behaviors.
Certainly there is plenty of math involved in economics but the math is predictive insofar as the behavior is predicted correctly. That is not an easy task when trying to predict things like the way the Chinese government will react to an internal crisis.
That’s why very smart economists often disagree with each other all the time. The disagreements are not insignificant either. One might predict hyperinflation while another predicts deflation. One might predict a decade of prosperity while the other predicts an outright depression.
I am not an economist, I am an investor. In that role, I pay attention to as much as I can understand and make my own conclusions on how to proceed with my money.
If I followed a gold-shilling Austrian economist to make investment decisions over the last decade, my wealth would be a standard deviation or more below where it is right now.
That said, the reality of all these predictions is that someone is usually right. While you might not be able to predict the future, you should be aware of what’s going on and make decisions based on knowledge rather than emotion alone.
A good example of economists disagreeing is playing out right now. China’s largest real estate development company, Evergrande, looks like it is about to go bankrupt. If you were at our meetup last week, economist Ryan Davis felt that the fallout would be isolated to Chinese banks.
My guest on Wealth Formula Podcast this week, Richard Duncan, does not buy that. He is far more concerned about the global ripple effects of default from this behemoth company.
Make sure to tune in to this week’s Wealth Formula Podcast to get his perspective!
Richard Duncan is the author of three books on the global economic crisis. The Dollar Crisis: Causes, Consequences, Cures (John Wiley & Sons, 2003, updated 2005), predicted the global economic disaster that began in 2008 with extraordinary accuracy. It was an international bestseller. His second book was The Corruption of Capitalism: A strategy to rebalance the global economy and restore sustainable growth. It was published by CLSA Books in December 2009. His latest book is The New Depression: The Breakdown Of The Paper Money Economy (John Wiley & Sons, 2012).
Since beginning his career as an equities analyst in Hong Kong in 1986, Richard has served as global head of investment strategy at ABN AMRO Asset Management in London, worked as a financial sector specialist for the World Bank in Washington D.C., and headed equity research departments for James Capel Securities and Salomon Brothers in Bangkok. He also worked as a consultant for the IMF in Thailand during the Asia Crisis.
Richard has appeared frequently on CNBC, CNN, BBC and Bloomberg Television, as well as on BBC World Service Radio. He has published articles in The Financial Times, The Far East Economic Review, FinanceAsia and CFO Asia. He is also a well-known speaker whose audiences have included The World Economic Forum’s East Asia Economic Summit in Singapore, The EuroFinance Conference in Copenhagen, The Chief Financial Officers’ Roundtable in Shanghai, and The World Knowledge Forum in Seoul.
Richard studied literature and economics at Vanderbilt University (1983) and international finance at Babson College (1986); and, between the two, spent a year traveling around the world as a backpacker.
Shownotes:
The Liquidity Tsunami
Is the current Inflation transitory?
What is China Evergrande?

Oct 3, 2021 • 36min
284: Jorge Newbery on the State of the Real Estate Market!
“It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
-Yogi Berra
The residential real estate market is on fire. No doubt. We are seeing this across the board from single-family homes to massive apartment complexes.
I’m not an expert on single-family home values. I don’t understand them as they are not rooted in cap rates etc. However, I can comment on larger residential real estate.
Cap rates have gone down primarily because of mortgage interest rates being at historic lows. This is just math. Leverage only works if the money you borrow at is less than the cap rate. Otherwise, you are leveraging losses, not profits.
So the question I often get from investors is, “What if interest rates go up?” It’s a good question but we have to understand that no component of the economy happens in a vacuum.
Cap rates are low because interest rates are low. Interest rates are low to avoid asset deflation. The fed is controlling mortgage interest rates by buying up 10 year treasury bonds.
The 10 year treasury typically reflects inflation. If it goes up, that means we’ve got inflation on the horizon. So, even if cap rates go up following increased mortgage interest rates, we should be able to raise our rents to match that inflation and offset the negative impact on us as sellers with increasing cap rates. That’s why I consider apartment complexes a hedge against inflation.
But the reality is that the economy is pretty darn fragile right now. The likelihood of the Federal Reserve allowing interest rates to naturally rise seems unlikely as any downward trends in the economy would likely result in a knee-jerk response and economic stimulation.
Of course, I could be wrong, but my personal feeling is that we have a runway of a good 5 years or more before the party ends.
So what to do? I’ll tell you what I’m doing. I’m doing what I always do. I’m investing in value-add real estate that does not rely on market appreciation to be profitable. If the market keeps heading north, then great. If not, it’s not the end of the world. We still have equity that we force through our value-add programs.
The bottom line, in my view, is that a reasonable approach is to continue to volume average into your investments. Not investing in an inflationary environment guarantees the loss of your buying power so you don’t have a lot of choices.
But my friend Jorge Newbery is trying to give us a few more choices. He’s a little less enthusiastic about the market over the next few years and is hedging his bets in a different way.
On this week’s Wealth Formula Podcast, Jorge gives us his perspective on the real estate market and his formula to come out ahead in this economy either way.
Listen HERE
In 2008, Jorge P. Newbery founded American Homeowner Preservation to buy distressed mortgages at discounts and offer struggling families sustainable solutions to stay in their homes.
However, when the homes backing the mortgages were vacant, he recognized that lenders frequently struggled as they tried to limit their losses.
In 2020, Jorge founded preREO to get these vacant properties into the hands of local investors during the foreclosure process which mitigates losses to lenders and accelerates returns for investors, a win-win.
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