
The Doctor & The Nurse
Fascinating conversations with world-class performers from a variety of fields to uncover the strategies, habits, and mindsets that set them apart. Whether it's athletes, entrepreneurs, artists, or innovators, we explore the stories behind their success, revealing the tools and insights they've used to reach the top of their game. Listeners will discover practical takeaways and thought-provoking perspectives, learning what it truly takes to excel and sustain greatness in any area of life. Each episode is a journey into the minds of the best, offering inspiration and lessons for personal transformation.
Latest episodes

Jul 1, 2025 • 44min
Mastering the Wheel of Health for Peak Performance | Todd Vande Hei
Todd Vande Hei—CEO of Stark Health—joins David for the final episode of season 2, sharing his transformation from medical crisis in his 30s to top-tier health in his 50s. Todd outlines his game-changing “Wheel of Health” framework—designed to assess and optimize all key health domains—and explains how integrating lifestyle, exercise, nutrition, stress management, hormone balance, and data tracking leads to sustainable gains.
Together Todd and David debunk magic bullets, emphasizing fundamentals and strategic measurement using tools like DEXA, HRV tracking, blood panels, and hormone labs. Todd also touches on enhancing mental resilience through cold immersion, AI-assisted personalized training, and when hormone therapy can be a foundational game-changer.
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon once again joins David for the final part of this episode, this time discussing the importance of muscle quality over quantity and advocating measuring the fat within the muscle to assess true muscular health. The two reinforce the importance of body autonomy, stating that if a tool helps someone mentally and emotionally—whether they have 5 or 50 pounds to lose—it’s valid. The key takeaway from this conversation: health is not fate, it’s a skill that can be acquired and mastered to achieve peak performance.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Holding My Baby—Morning Epiphany
01:13 From Medical Crisis to Peak Health
05:14 Building the Wheel of Health Framework
07:34 Life Integration vs Balance—The Dance
12:30 Measurement Tools: Oura, DEXA, Labs
16:56 What Works—Lifestyle Always Comes First
18:23 Hormone Therapy: A Foundational Tool
21:20 Cold Plunges & Brain Growth
22:22 Teen Testosterone Decline & Digital Stress
24:01 AI’s Role in Personalized Training
27:57 Minimal Viable Training: 2–4 hrs/week
29:43 Individual Variability: Goals & History
32:44 Key Metrics: Grip, VO₂max, Mental Health
34:58 Final Takeaways + How to Follow Todd
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Jun 24, 2025 • 36min
The Five Pillars of Purposeful Living | Dawn Mussallem
Dr. Dawn Mussallem, an integrative oncologist at Mayo Clinic, joins David to share her extraordinary journey—surviving Stage IV lymphoma, enduring a near-death flat line, and later undergoing a heart transplant—guided by her joy, faith, and steadfast commitment to a lifestyle-centered healing approach. Traveling to Dharamsala to meet the Dalai Lama reinforced Dawn’s belief in love, compassion, and unity as essential complements to medical science. She unpacks metrics for heart and cancer prevention (like Apo-B, lipoproteins, calcium scoring, early detection tests), debunks extremes, and champions five daily pillars—connection, movement, nutritious eating, sleep, and reducing toxins—as foundational to vibrant, purposeful living.
At the end of the episode, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon joins David to highlight the most actionable biomarkers and tools for heart and cancer prevention. Gabrielle underscores a shift toward individualized care and warns against outdated generalizations—like past assumptions linking testosterone to prostate cancer—underscoring the evolving nature of medical understanding.
This episode blends profound personal experience, spiritual enlightenment, and evidence-based lifestyle guidance. Whether you're fighting illness or striving for vitality, Dawn's infectious joy and practical wisdom illuminate a path that uplifts body, mind, and spirit.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Meeting the Dalai Lama: love, compassion & time standing still
03:48 Cancer diagnosis: facing Stage IV lymphoma in medical school
06:55 Cardiac aftermath: near-death flat-line & living with 8% ejection fraction
10:33 Integrative medicine at Mayo: holistic care & lifestyle optimization
15:08 Heart health metrics: Apo‑B, lipoproteins & imaging insights
19:20 Cancer prevention through lifestyle: nutrition, movement & sleep
24:59 Environmental factors: navigating risks without fear
27:12 Five daily habits: connection, movement, food, sleep & toxin awareness
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Jun 17, 2025 • 50min
DNA as the Blueprint for Peak Performance | Kashif Khan
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What if your health, energy, and mental edge were already coded into your DNA—and all you had to do was unlock it? Kashif Khan, founder of The DNA Company, joins David on this week’s episode of The David Nurse Show to break down how your genes really do hold the blueprint for peak performance and longevity.
During their conversation, Kashif walks David through his personal DNA results, revealing shocking insights about gut health, mitochondrial energy production, and the so-called "clutch gene" that influences high-pressure performance. The two also discuss whether killer instinct is born or built, how to fix poor genetic detox systems, and why many popular supplements may be doing more harm than good if your body isn’t genetically suited for them.
Finally, learn why some people never feel full, why keto can backfire based on your fat metabolism gene, and how your DNA can predict future disease risk—so you can take action before it’s too late. Don't miss this fascinating conversation!
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Can You Develop Killer Instinct or Is It in Your DNA?
02:29 Kashif’s Health Journey and Founding of The DNA Company
04:37 The Neurochemical Blueprint of Clutch Performance
08:11 How Genomics Predicts Mental Toughness and Trauma
09:48 Developing Killer Instinct Through Genetic Expression
11:23 Personalized Health: Gut Issues and Missing Detox Genes
15:48 Mitochondrial Dysfunction and the Future of Your Energy
21:09 Cardiovascular Risk and the Truth About Endothelial Health
24:37 The Vaccine, mRNA, and Young Athletes' Heart Risk
28:40 Is Gene Therapy Real or Just Hype?
30:27 What Really Slows Aging: Genes, Mitochondria & Inflammation
32:14 The Warrior Gene: Training Based on Your Hormones
36:53 Is There a Fat Gene? Why Diets Succeed or Fail by DNA
39:02 How to Get Your DNA Tested and Optimize Your Life
40:18 The Dopamine Map: Broke or Billionaire?
42:00 Facing Mortality and the DNA of a Life Well Lived
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Jun 10, 2025 • 44min
America’s Broken Approach to Healthcare & Nutrition | Dr. Will Cole
Dr. Will Cole sits down with David on today’s episode of The David Nurse Show to unpack one of the most pressing issues facing America: our broken approach to healthcare and nutrition. Despite spending more on healthcare than any other industrialized nation, the U.S. faces skyrocketing chronic disease and declining life expectancy. Will doesn’t just point out the problems—he presents solutions through his work with the “Maha” movement (Make America Healthy Again), which is aiming to democratize access to functional medicine and break the grip of the pharmaceutical and processed food industries.
Together Will and David expose the deep-rooted issues: food subsidies that promote disease, misinformation in media, and political agendas that distort the truth. They also tackle the cultural contradictions—how toxic diet culture has swung to glorify obesity under the guise of body positivity, and why self-respect should be the foundation of nutritional choices. The conversation balances big-picture activism with personal responsibility, offering both inspiration and actionable guidance.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Why the U.S. Health System Is Set Up to Fail
01:20 The Truth About Lucky Charms and Processed Foods
02:45 MAHA Movement: More Than Politics
04:10 Inside the Kellogg’s Headquarters Protest
07:10 The Power of Deep, Dark Pharma Money
10:00 Hope vs. Juggernaut: Can Change Really Happen?
11:45 Public School Food, Subsidies, and Chronic Disease
14:00 Body Positivity vs. Self-Respect in Health
16:00 The Cultural Overcorrection and Virtue Signaling
18:00 Behind-the-Scenes at MAHA and Kellogg’s
21:00 Realignment of Political Ideals in Wellness
25:00 Why Stats on Health Should Wake Us Up
28:15 The Core Four Inflammatory Foods to Cut
31:25 What to Eat Instead: Nutrient-Dense Healing Foods
33:30 Feeding Your Head and Heart with Intention
35:00 Stevia, Zevia, and the Peanut Butter Addiction
38:00 Guilty Pleasures and the Truth About Balance
41:30 Holding Each Other Accountable for Health Habits
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Jun 3, 2025 • 22min
Optimizing Salt, Hydration, & Cardiovascular Health | James DiNicolantonio
On today’s episode of The David Nurse Show, cardiovascular researcher and pharmacist, Dr. James DiNicolantonio, sets the record straight on one of the most misunderstood nutrients—salt. Far from being the enemy, sodium is essential for performance, focus, energy, and cardiovascular health. During his conversation with David, James explains why most people are chronically under-consuming salt and how this impacts everything from fatigue to hormonal health.
Together David and James explore how low salt levels can increase insulin resistance, stress hormones, and even cravings, creating a dangerous cycle that sabotages physical and mental performance. James also breaks down how proper sodium intake improves endurance, sleep, and stress resilience—and gives specific guidance on how to tailor salt intake based on your activity level and lifestyle. This episode is a must-listen for athletes, entrepreneurs, and anyone wanting to perform at their highest level.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Introduction to Dr. James DiNicolantonio
01:32 Why Salt Is Not the Enemy
03:45 The Real Science Behind Sodium and Blood Pressure
06:10 Hydration Myths That Hurt Performance
08:05 Signs of Salt Deficiency in High Performers
10:22 How Low Salt Increases Insulin and Stress Hormones
13:01 Optimizing Sodium for Energy and Focus
15:17 Best Forms of Salt and Electrolyte Supplements
18:00 How to Personalize Your Salt Intake
20:04 Final Takeaways on Salt, Health & Longevity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 27, 2025 • 50min
Building Elite Fitness Through Consistency | Don Saladino
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Celebrity trainer Don Saladino joins David Nurse for this raw, energizing conversation about what it really takes to build and sustain elite-level health and performance—physically and mentally. On today’s episode Don outlines why consistency is the single most overlooked and irreplaceable factor in transformation—revealing how he’s structured his training for over 30 years to avoid burnout, stay injury-free, and keep evolving.
Together the two explore how Don’s approach has evolved from his early Equinox days to working with top-tier Hollywood clients, and why standards—not hacks—create real transformation. Don discusses resistance training as the “entrée” to fitness, how he integrates cardio for recovery and longevity, and why NSVs (non-scale victories) are a far more reliable progress marker than the number on the scale. Don also takes a firm stance on the influencer vs. coach debate—calling out the lack of real-world experience in the online fitness space—and shares why application trumps lab results when it comes to real change.
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon joins David toward the end of the episode to break down intramuscular adipose tissue (IMAT) as a game-changing new health marker and how movement is essential for skeletal muscle quality. They also discuss the best ways to track nutrition for body composition, the psychology of standards, and what truly sustainable excellence looks like.
No matter where you’re at in your fitness journey, this episode will challenge you to raise your standards, think deeper, and train with more purpose.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Don Saladino’s Relentless Consistency
03:00 40,000+ Sessions and What They Taught Him
06:45 Periodization, Recovery & Training Blocks
11:20 Real Coaches vs Influencers
13:40 The Science vs Application Debate
16:00 Tracking, Feel, and Nutrition Misconceptions
18:45 Metabolic Flexibility and Real RMR Gains
21:15 Training to Failure: What It Really Takes
23:00 Celebrity Coaching and Industry Experience
26:15 Why Standards > Motivation
28:45 NSVs and Sustainable Progress
31:00 Ozempic, Shortcuts, and Long-Term Costs
34:00 Gabrielle Lyon on iMAT and Muscle Health
38:00 Optimal Training Frequency & Recovery
42:00 Reframing Body Fat vs Muscle Quality
46:00 Standards as a Lifestyle Filter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 20, 2025 • 31min
Unlocking the Body’s Repair System Through Stem Cell Activation | Christian Drapeau
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Christian Drapeau, a leading expert in stem cell science, joins David Nurse to unpack the often misunderstood world of stem cells and how they are changing the game for health, healing, and longevity. Rather than splurging on expensive injections abroad, Christian outlines how specific plant extracts can trigger your own body to release millions of stem cells daily—jumpstarting recovery, rejuvenation, and regeneration from within.
David and Christian’s conversation also navigates the socio-political resistance to stem cell technologies in Western countries, detailing how the pharmaceutical industry’s profit-driven model clashes with treatments that actually restore health rather than manage symptoms.
Christian brings clarity to a cutting-edge yet practical health approach that many medical professionals still dismiss simply because it challenges the status quo. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to optimize performance, prevent disease, or better understand how to support the body’s natural healing abilities.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 The Future of Medicine—Stem Cell Repair Potential
02:07 Why Stem Cells Are Misunderstood
03:00 Stem Cells as the Body’s Repair System
04:54 Regulatory Resistance and the Pharma Business Model
08:47 The Truth About Stemregen and Plant-Based Activation
10:32 From Lab to Reality: Proof of Heart Regeneration
12:33 How Much Stem Cell Release Is Possible?
14:58 Top 5 Plants That Mobilize Stem Cells
15:37 Study: Accelerated Injury Recovery in Elite Athletes
18:59 Microtrauma, Athletic Recovery & Injury Prevention
19:21 What is ESCM (Endogenous Stem Cell Mobilization)?
21:20 What It'll Take for Mainstream Acceptance
24:44 Why This Could Be a Turning Point in Modern Health
26:30 Stem Cells: From Concept to Cultural Acceptance
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May 13, 2025 • 48min
Ketones, Brainpower & the Future of Performance Fuel | Dr. Latt Mansor
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Dr. Latt Mansor’s path from a small town in Malaysia to earning degrees at Columbia and Oxford is a story of relentless curiosity, resilience, and timing. In this compelling conversation with David Nurse, Latt reveals how a series of unexpected decisions led him to the forefront of ketone research at H.V.M.N., where he now leads groundbreaking studies on performance, focus, recovery, and heart health.
He breaks down the science behind ketones—why the brain and body love them, how Ketone IQ differs from traditional energy sources like caffeine, and what the data shows in real-world applications: improved endurance, sharper mental clarity, deeper sleep, and even enhanced cardiac output in heart failure patients.
But this episode is about more than science. Latt shares how personal loss, cultural identity, and internal self-doubt shaped his mission to help others live longer, more optimized lives. It’s a conversation on fuel—not just for the body, but for the mind, purpose, and belief.
Whether you’re training for peak performance, building a business, or simply aiming to think and feel your best, this episode delivers the clarity, consistency, and actionable insight you need to operate at your highest level—physically and mentally.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Latt's Journey: From Malaysia to Oxford
06:43 Breaking Into Biotech Without a Plan
12:59 The Startup Pivot: From Academia to Entrepreneurship
17:01 How Ketones Work in the Body
21:50 Ketone IQ vs. Caffeine: Real Energy Without the Crash
25:33 Sports Performance & Anaerobic Gains
30:20 Ketones for Mental Focus & Flow State
33:45 Sleep Enhancement & Ketones at Night
37:02 Appetite Suppression & Weight Control Studies
40:25 Heart Health Breakthroughs in Ketone Research
43:57 Risks, Cautions & What Ketones Can't Do
45:31 The Real Takeaway: Consistency, Self-Belief & Performance Optimization Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 6, 2025 • 36min
The Future of Hormone Optimization and Peptide Therapy | Dr. Chris Asandra & Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
Dr. Chris Asandra, one of the top hormone and peptide therapy experts in the world, sits down with David Nurse to discuss the frontier of health optimization—and why it's not just about looking younger, but truly feeling better, longer. From testosterone therapy to breakthrough peptides like BPC-157, CJC-1295, and GHK copper, this conversation unpacks the real science behind the “Hollywood stacks” transforming how top performers—from actors to athletes—prepare their bodies and minds. Known as a leading expert in anti-aging and performance medicine, Dr. Asandra shares the truth about TRT, peptide stacks, Ozempic alternatives, and the secrets behind Hollywood’s physique transformations.
The episode covers the stigma around hormone replacement, the power of copper peptides, and how hormone balancing is transforming both male and female lives. David and Chris also explore gene therapy trends, optimal supplement stacks, and what the future of personalized medicine looks like. Dr. Asandra pulls back the curtain on peptides that heal gut lining, stimulate growth hormone, burn fat, and even promote collagen and hair regrowth. The two also dive into Ozempic and its alternatives, the growing impact of GLP-1s, and how people are using these compounds safely to transform their health—with less risk and more reward than traditional pharmaceuticals.
Whether you’re getting ready for a blockbuster role or just want to feel your best, Dr. Asandra maps out the exact protocols and stacks that get real results—and why working with a qualified professional matters more than ever. If you're curious about anti-aging, aesthetic performance, or the truth behind what top-level talent is using, this episode will open your eyes to a powerful new health paradigm.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Introduction to Dr. Chris Asandra
01:42 The Science and Stigma Behind Peptides
05:20 Ozempic, GLP-1s, and Safe Fat Loss
10:03 The Power of Copper Peptides
13:00 TRT: Truths, Myths, and Proper Use
17:50 Building the Ideal Stack: Lean vs. Mass Goals
23:15 Injectables vs. Orals: What's Safer?
26:45 Brian Johnson, Gene Therapy, and Follistatin
29:00 Hormone Therapy for Women: Pre and Post-Menopause
32:40 How to Work with Dr. Asandra
34:10 Final Thoughts on Changing Lives with Hormones Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 2min
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon | Muscle, Metabolism & the Future of Health Optimization
What if everything you thought you knew about nutrition, muscle, and longevity was outdated?
In this high-impact conversation, David Nurse sits down with Dr. Gabrielle Lyon—founder of the Muscle-Centric Medicine® movement—to break the mold on traditional health thinking. From exposing the myths behind evidence-based medicine to unveiling the overlooked power of muscle in aging and disease prevention, this episode covers the cutting edge of metabolic health.
You’ll hear insider insights on peptides like BPC-157, Ozempic vs. Manjaro, stem cell therapies, copper’s role in vitality, intramuscular adipose tissue (IMAT), and how discipline starts with standards—not motivation. Gabrielle also shares visionary takes on body composition, and what recovery will look like 10 years from now.
If you're tired of the same recycled fitness advice and want real science, real stories, and real strategies from one of the sharpest minds in the field, this episode is your edge.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 The Real Metric: Muscle Quality Over Body Fat
06:43 Ozempic, Manjurno & the Future of Weight Loss Drugs
12:20 Stem Cells, Peptides & What’s Actually Worth It
18:52 Copper, Iron, and Hormones: Micronutrient Talk
24:30 The Training Equation: Movement, Strength & Consistency
30:15 Standards, Discipline & The Power of Mission
36:20 Genetic Drive vs. Environment: Raising the Next Greats
42:18 Mortality, Hospice & Facing the End Well
47:35 Cancer, Heart Health & What Tests Actually Matter
52:18 Overconsumption, Processed Foods & Global Health Gaps
56:47 Reaching the Masses: From Protein to MrBeast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices