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Dickens said, it was the best of the times, it was the worst of the times. The words have never been truer. Best because there’s never been a better time to be an entrepreneur. Worst because the clutter is mind-numbing. Founder Thesis breaks through the noise to bring you stories of success & failure, grit & struggle, bouquets & brickbats from some of the most brilliant entrepreneurs in India.
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Sep 2, 2022 • 1h 8min
Why My previous Startups Failed & What I Learned | Anubhav Jain (Rupifi)
"The good thing about starting for the fourth time is that you know what things you should not be doing."This powerful insight from Anubhav Jain captures the essence of his journey. Unlike first-time founders focused on what to do, this serial entrepreneur has built a formidable "negative knowledge" playbook, using lessons from past failures to de-risk his current venture and scale faster.Anubhav Jain is the Co-Founder & CEO of Rupifi, a B2B fintech platform radically changing how small businesses access credit. A serial entrepreneur and a credit risk expert from IIM Indore, Anubhav honed his skills for a decade at American Express. His previous lending startup, Qbera, was acquired after building a loan book of over ₹250 Crores. At Rupifi, he is on a mission to empower India's underserved SMEs, having already disbursed over ₹5,000 Crores in credit to more than 150,000 businesses across 500+ cities, backed by global investors like Tiger Global and Bessemer Venture Partners.Key Insights from the Conversation The "Anchor-Led" Growth Model: Rupifi's genius lies in its B2B2C strategy, partnering with large marketplaces ("anchors") like Flipkart Wholesale and Zomato's Hyperpure to acquire SMEs at near-zero cost. Underwriting the "Un-bankable": Rupifi uses real-time transaction data from its marketplace partners to underwrite businesses, allowing it to provide credit to the 45% of its customers who had no prior formal credit history. The Outsourced-Tech Trap: Anubhav shares a critical lesson from his previous startup, Qbera, which faced a forced acquisition because its core technology was outsourced to a partner on an equity basis, crippling its ability to scale and raise funds. Collections as a Core Competency: To solve for the long-tail SME, building a powerful, multi-channel collections capability from day one is non-negotiable. At Rupifi, nearly half the team is dedicated to collections. The Power of Subvention: Rupifi's "Buy Now, Pay Later" product is typically free for the small retailer. The cost is borne by the marketplace (a "subvention"), which in turn sees significant growth in sales and customer stickiness.Chapters(00:00) The Biggest Lesson from a 4-Time Founder(01:36) Building Risk Fundamentals During the 2008 Financial Crisis(02:37) My First Startup Failure: What I Learned from Building an EdTech (05:25) The Second Venture: Building Consumer Lending Platform Qbera(11:15) The Operational Hack for 24-Hour High-Ticket Loan Disbursal(17:41) Why We Were Acquired: The Critical Mistake of Outsourcing Tech(24:02) How 500 LinkedIn Messages Helped Me Find My Co-Founders(28:14) The Rupifi Thesis: Solving the Real Credit Gap for Indian SMEs(33:41) The Anchor-Led Model: How We Partner with Flipkart, Zomato & Others(37:32) The Science of Underwriting SMEs with Zero Credit History(49:43) Our Secret Weapon: Why Half Our Team Works in Collections(55:31) How Rupifi Makes Money with a 0% Cost Product for Retailers(01:04:46) The Key Challenges to Scaling B2B Embedded Finance in IndiaHashtags for YouTube#FounderThesis #StartupPodcast #AnubhavJain #Rupifi #Fintech #SME #B2BLending #EmbeddedFinance #StartupIndia #VentureCapital #Entrepreneurship #FounderStory #BusinessPodcast #StartupLessons #RiskManagement

Aug 31, 2022 • 1h 3min
How I Built Two Unicorns After Being Arrested By The FBI | Sandeep Aggarwal (Droom & ShopClues)
"Most entrepreneurs think that insufficient capital goes against them. You die due to indigestion, not due to hunger."Sandeep Aggarwal's powerful insight challenges the "blitzscaling" mentality prevalent in the startup world. In this episode, he explains why having too much capital can be more dangerous than having too little, leading to a lack of discipline and inefficient spending. It's a hard-won lesson on the importance of capital efficiency, forged from the experience of building two unicorns.About Sandeep AggarwalSandeep Aggarwal is the only tech entrepreneur in India to have founded two unicorns back-to-back: ShopClues, India's first managed marketplace, and Droom, India's largest automobile e-commerce platform. After a successful 14-year career as a top-ranked Wall Street internet analyst covering giants like Google and Amazon, he moved to India to launch his entrepreneurial journey. Despite losing his first company amidst a personal and legal crisis, he founded Droom in 2014, scaling it to a $1.2 billion valuation. His first company, ShopClues, became India's 5th consumer internet unicorn and achieved that status having spent only $70 million.Key Insights from the Conversation The "Real India" Thesis: ShopClues’ initial success was driven by a visionary strategy to target the millions of small sellers and buyers in India's Tier 2 and 3 cities, a market completely ignored by competitors at the time. The Viral Growth Hack: Sandeep reveals how a simple but brilliant marketing campaign—selling an Adidas deodorant for just ₹9—led to an explosion in user growth for ShopClues, taking them from 18 to 200 orders per day almost overnight. Engineering Trust with Tech: Droom’s entire business model is built on creating trust in the highly fragmented used-car market through a proprietary tech stack, including an algorithmic pricing engine Orange Book Value and a digital inspection service ECO . Resilience as a Superpower: The conversation highlights how Sandeep turned a career-ending crisis, including his arrest and the loss of his company, into the clarity and motivation needed to build his second, even more resilient, unicorn.Chapters02:23 - Surviving the Dot-Com Burst & Landing a Top Wall Street Job07:07 - The "Real India" Thesis: Why We Ignored Cities to Win the Heartland09:46 - How We Onboarded Our First Sellers And Created Digital Catalogs from Scratch15:00 - The ₹9 Deodorant Hack That Got Us 30,000 Users Overnight22:58 - Understanding the Insider Trading Allegations29:48 - The Comeback: Analyzing 52 Ideas to Found Droom32:00 - The Droom Thesis: Fixing Trust in the Broken Used Car Market38:52 - How Droom's Transaction Model Actually Works41:09 - Engineering Trust: Building OBV, ECO & Droom History45:41 - Droom Credit: Fixing the Used Car Loan Problem53:30 - Path to Profitability & The Economics of DroomHashtags#FounderThesis #SandeepAggarwal #Droom #ShopClues #StartupIndia #Entrepreneurship #Unicorn #Ecommerce #FounderStory #StartupJourney #Resilience #Comeback #GrowthHacking #Marketplace #IndianStartup #VentureCapital #BusinessPodcast #MakeInIndia

Aug 29, 2022 • 1h 9min
A Masterclass on Digital Lending for "Middle India" | Madhusudan Ekambaram (KreditBee)
"I told students, 'Please break our system. If you break it, the product is free for you.'"This counterintuitive approach reveals the genius behind Madhusudan Ekambaram's early strategy. Instead of avoiding failure, he gamified it, turning his first users—students—into a dedicated team for stress-testing and fraud detection, building an incredibly robust platform from day one.Madhusudan Ekambaram is the Co-founder and CEO of KreditBee, one of India's leading digital lending platforms. He has scaled the company to serve over 70 million users , disbursing ₹21,000 crores in loans in FY24 alone. Under his leadership, KreditBee has underwritten over 40 million customers and achieved significant profitability, with profit after tax growing nearly 200% in the last fiscal year.Key Insights from the Conversation: The Co-lending Model: KreditBee scales capital efficiently through a "skin-in-the-game" co-lending model, where its own NBFC takes a portion of the loan risk alongside partners, building immense trust in the debt ecosystem. Winning "Middle India": The company's core strategy focuses on the massive, underserved market in non-metro cities, with over 77% of its customers coming from this demographic. The Data Quantum Moat: The true competitive advantage is not just the algorithm but the sheer volume of data from underwriting over 40 million customers, which makes their risk models uniquely powerful. Regulation as a Strength: By operating with its own NBFC license from the start, KreditBee built a resilient business that was well-prepared for India's evolving regulatory landscape for digital lending.Chapters: (01:34) - From Corporate Life to a Fintech Insight (06:28) - The "Zero-Cost" Go-To-Market with Students (11:26) - How We "Hacked" a BNPL Product (17:52) - The "Skin-in-the-Game" Co-lending Model (28:27) - The Fundraising Journey: From Xiaomi to Premji Invest (35:54) - Navigating the COVID-19 Crisis (45:45) - The Underwriting Moat: Why Data is King (54:59) - Customer Acquisition Beyond Google & Facebook (1:05:03) - Why Regulated Fintechs Still Need Equity#KreditBee #MadhusudanEkambaram #FounderThesis #FintechIndia #DigitalLending #StartupPodcast #NBFC #Lending #RiskManagement #Underwriting #StartupIndia #Entrepreneurship #VentureCapital #Fundraising #Scaling #Profitability #BNPL #IndianStartups #BusinessStrategy #Leadership

Aug 26, 2022 • 56min
Building a $500M EdTech Platform in 16 Months | Ravi Bhushan (BrightChamps)
"A superstar team is better than a team of superstars."This single cultural insight was the engine behind BrightChamps' explosive, capital-efficient growth. In this episode, founder Ravi Bhushan breaks down how fostering a community of passionate, mission-aligned individuals—from teachers to engineers—created a powerful growth flywheel that well-funded competitors struggled to match.Key Insights from the Conversation: Global-First Strategy: Learn why BrightChamps launched in the Middle East before India, a counterintuitive move to build a truly global product from day one. Customer-Funded Growth: Discover how the company was bootstrapped to its first $10 million ARR solely on customer revenue, proving product-market fit before raising significant VC funding. The Teacher Flywheel: The key to great learning outcomes and retention is treating teachers as valued community members with growth paths, not transactional "gig workers." The Acquire-to-Build Playbook: BrightChamps uses strategic acquisitions to rapidly enter new verticals (like financial literacy) and markets, accelerating its mission to be a one-stop life-skills platform. Tech-Led Efficiency: The company uses technology to optimize everything from a lean counseling team to an algorithmic engine that matches the perfect teacher to each student globally.Chapters:(00:00) Introduction(01:22) The Spark: From "Hardcore Techie" to EdTech Founder(04:35) Mission: Solving the "Everlasting Gap" in Global Education(08:44) Product V1 & The "Execution Risk" Bet(12:22) The Hypergrowth Story: $10M ARR with Zero VC Funding(19:23) The Flywheel: Why Passionate Teachers are a Superpower(27:57) Using Tech for Personalization & Global Scale(33:50) The Business Model: Mastering LTV/CAC for Profitability(43:35) The Playbook for Building a High-Ownership Culture(48:26) Future Vision: Scaling Through Strategic M&AHashtags:#FounderThesis #StartupPodcast #RaviBhushan #BrightChamps #EdTech #Entrepreneurship #ScalingGlobally #VentureCapital #Bootstrapping #ProductMarketFit #StartupStrategy #Leadership #BusinessPodcast #Unicorn

Aug 24, 2022 • 55min
Disrupting The Trillion Dollar Business Travel Market | Mayank Kukreja @ Itilite
As a McKinsey consultant, Mayank saw firsthand the inefficiencies in corporate travel. This led him to build Itilite, a Tiger Global-backed SaaS enterprise that offers travel and expense management solutions to companies to ensure seamless travel. Mayank speaks about bringing the ease of personal travel experience to business travel.Know about:- Incentivize people to save money Defining the problem statement differently “You are not as unique”- learnings at McKinsey Strategy to enter the US market

Aug 22, 2022 • 1h 3min
Personal Loans At Scale | Ashish Goyal @ EarlySalary
The availability of formal short-term credit boosts financial well-being by helping people make ends meet when facing a temporary financial crisis. Ashish is an investment banker and CA by profession. His decade-long extensive experience in Portfolio Management combined with a deep understanding of growth and strategy led him to build one of India’s leading consumer lending fintechs. EarlySalary is unique among its peers as it has its own in-house NBFC. Find out more about he scaled EarlySalary!Know about:- Identifying the product Tracking customer retention Fundraising journey Customised underwriting

Aug 17, 2022 • 1h 5min
Making Manufacturing Smart | Vipin Raghavan @ Haber
Even though India has been slow when it comes to modernizing machines, Haber might change that. With pathbreaking AI solutions, the Robot-as-a-Service startup is set to revolutionize the manufacturing industry. Listen on as Vipin Raghavan speaks about the compelling value proposition of Haber!Know about:- Product understanding and features Fuzzy algorithm Variable frequency drive Future plans- solving for sensors

Aug 15, 2022 • 43min
Building Dashboards For The Body | Vatsal Singhal and Mohit Kumar @ Ultrahuman
Second-time entrepreneurs, Vatsal and Mohit, speak about building Ultrahuman, one of the world's most advanced fitness and metabolism tracking platforms. Listen on as they share their journey of starting up again, getting into the fitness space, and coming up with India’s first metabolism tracker wearable.
Know about:-
Trends in wearables
Figuring out your “healthy”
Launching Ultrahuman M1
Customer acquisition strategy

Aug 12, 2022 • 47min
Pioneering Hyperlocal Logistics | Vatsal Singhal and Mohit Kumar @ Runnr
Cockpit of innovation, scale, and form, Vatsal and Mohit built one of the most well-known hyperlocal logistics startups that helped food tech giant Zomato successfully pivot from a food discovery app to a food delivery app. With a principle of “Click, Pick and Delivered”, Runnr has grown the revenue of companies like Mcdonald's, KFC, Myntra and Snapdeal. Listen to this episode where the duo talks about their journey of building this B2B platform from scratch.
Know about:-
All things last mile
Ola’s playbook and targeting hypergrowth
TPH and the much-hyped acquisition by Zomato

Aug 10, 2022 • 1h 13min
Solving For Credit | Prashanth Ranganathan @ PaySense
A Stanford graduate who returned to India to solve the big credit need in the market culminated in building one of India’s leading lending platforms- that’s the story of Prashanth. Tune in to this episode to hear about how his testing period of life paid him rich lesson dividends.
Know about:-
Building SayNow Corp, acquired by Google
Stint at PayPal
Bet on the jockey, not the horse
Journey of acquisition