
The Heart of Yoga
Mark Whitwell and friends present heartfelt conversations from the heart of yoga.
“Indeed a soft message for a hard time. Please listen to Mark Whitwell. God is in this moment. God is as close as your own breath. So be here now! Mark will show you an easy way.” — Ram Dass on Mark’s book ‘The Promise’
In the spirit of yogaś citta-vṛtti-nirodhaḥ, we offer this podcast as a tool to direct attention towards relationship, intimacy with our experience, and the sublime beauty of our human situation. Ever since he met his yoga teachers TKV Desikachar and his father Tirumalai Krishnamacharya in Madras / Chennai in 1973, Mark has been sharing the tools of intimacy with body and breath through asana, pranayama and meditation, the practical method of response to grace in our life. The influence of J and UG Krishnamurti has clarified Yoga for all time as a practice of participation in the given reality, not a struggle towards a future result. "If you can breathe, you can do Yoga!"
Join us for an experience of union / Yoga (not just more knowledge about it), resolution of spiritual confusions, insight from decades of teaching experience, stories from the diverse sangha of practitioners, practical relationship discussion, and the application of Yoga to every aspect of our everyday life.
To find out more about teachings, retreats, online yoga classes, and our in-depth online yoga courses for both beginner and advanced practitioners, please visit www.heartofyoga.org.
Latest episodes

Jun 19, 2024 • 53min
From The Archive: Mark at The Omega Institute
This episode is a recording of a talk Mark Whitwell gave at the Omega Institute in New York in 2008. He speaks of Reality itself as an intelligent nurturing force, like a mother. Yoga is our direct participation in this nurturing reality, not an effort to achieve some future spiritual goal. This episode is a dharmic reset-reminder of yoga as participation in union, merging strength and receptivity just as we came into being ourselves through the union of our parents. Mark encourages listeners to see that any pain or difficult circumstance in life is ultimately healing and rebalancing when embraced fully. The practice of yoga reconnects us to the fact that we are cared for, no matter what arises. Quotes: - "Looking for God implies God is absent." - "The more charming or logical a teacher is, the more they'll delude you into thinking you are less and have to get somewhere." - "Spiritual language implies you're not already there and have to attain something." - "Relate to the life in people rather than labeling something as evil." - "Mother is here. You are utterly cared for." - "This pain is healing. My pain is nurturing." - "On the mat is my complete intimacy with reality. I can now go off the mat and do it." Timestamps: 4:00 - Discussing reality as nurturing force 8:00 - Pain as healing 15:00 - Promising a daily yoga practice 27:00 - Relating to pain and healing 38:00 - Reality appearing as you 58:00 - Closing discussion

Jun 13, 2024 • 54min
God And Sex: Part 3
Welcome back to “God and Sex” book club part 3. Mark and Rosalind argue about themes of the book around relationship, love and intimacy. Mark goes to the root of things as usual, connecting up the separate self to how relationship chaos plays out, and how yoga intervenes. We discuss the longing for a “soulmate” and whether this idea is useful, reflect on the China teacher training, and a few more controversial subjects relating to intimacy. Be aware some of these subjects may be connected with painful emotions in ourselves & feel free to reach out any time if you need to. Key Topics Covered - The presumption of being a separate self as the root of human suffering - How religions tend to devalue the body and sexuality - Ramanuja's teaching that we need yoga to actualise oneness - Participating in the union of opposites through yoga - Merging with your experience to understand yourself and life - Letting go of ideas like "soulmate" that create impossible expectations - How vulgarity and abuse can also be expressions of denying sex - Sharing yoga as a way to increase intimacy and improve relationships Key quotes: - "The hostility and disturbance in the world arises because people are not loving their life." - "If the man could learn to love bodily, sexually, then there would be peace." - "Consciousness perceiving an object is a single movement — there is no separation." - "Once you've tasted actual intimacy, the common patterns of sex finish." - "There must be yoga, and there must be the polarity of opposites within and without." - "The presumption of being a separate self with problems is an illusion." - "You can't use anybody to make you happy." Resources - God and Sex: Now We Get Both by Mark Whitwell - Yoga of Heart by Mark Whitwell Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction [00:01:00] The problem of separation as the root of suffering [00:06:00] Ramanuja's teaching about needing yoga [00:11:00] How religion devalues the body and sex [00:16:00] Krishnamacharya's example of yoga and family life [00:21:00] How modern society still denies sex [00:26:00] Merging with your experience through yoga [00:31:00] Letting go of the myth of "soulmates" [00:36:00] The misery caused by unrealistic expectations [00:41:00] The problem with techniques and sacred sexuality [00:46:00] The motivation to share these teachings [00:51:00] Being cautious about rushing into relationships

Jun 5, 2024 • 1h 4min
Intimacy With The Natual World w/Henriette Geber
This episode explores rekindling our innate connection to nature through yoga and sensing practices. Rosalind has an insightful conversation with her friend Henriette Geber, a yogini with a deep love of the mountains, plants and animals. They discuss how yoga helps us become more sensitive, intuit nature's aliveness, and dissolve harmful ways of relating that assume separation. Henriette shares how yoga empowers her natural affinities, from studying art history to living with the German Alps. We discuss removing overlays of ideology to intuitively relate directly with the living world. Key Topics - How yoga cultivates sensitivity to ourselves as nature - Dissolving the illusion of separateness from nature ingrained by society - Honoring the aliveness and subjectivity of all creatures and systems - Henriette’s countercultural move from the mountains to the city and back again - Following our natural talents and relationships that emerge through yoga Insights - Assumptions of nature as passive or dead prevent us from sensing its aliveness - Rituals trying to "connect" can reinforce separation if that belief is still there - Our bodies intuitively know which plants are healing if we relax our seeking mind Quotes "Yoga has given me this, that I trust what comes out of me. I think I was very outward oriented, like, how do you do certain things? How am I perceived? Always thinking like, oh, my perception might be really wrong or not even feeling how do I relate from the inside to this and giving me the sensitivity to actually feel how is my relationship to this, how is my sensing of this and then the strength to also act upon it and not be afraid." "If you cannot feel your body, you cannot feel the natural world because ultimately it's the same thing. It's totally the same thing." “It’s always there. It's there. You just need to listen.” Resources - Franz von Stuck's painting "Sin" that Henriette wrote her thesis on - The Correction by Amy Mindell, a book referenced Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction [00:01:00] Henriette's background in the mountains and move to Berlin [00:05:00] How yoga enabled tuning into her needs [00:10:00] Studies in art history and disconnect from life [00:15:00] Henriette's return to the mountains from the city [00:20:00] Painting of a woman and snake Henrietta was drawn to [00:25:00] Positive symbolism of the snake across cultures [00:30:00] Henriette's relationship with animals and plants [00:35:00] Accessing intuitive knowledge about medicinal plants [00:40:00] Story illustrating the ever-present relationship between humans and nature [00:45:00] Rituals reinforcing separation versus assuming connection [00:50:00] Being in relationship versus demanding feelings from nature [00:55:00] Living creatures acknowledging Henriette [01:00:00] Moving to farm not being the happily ever after [01:03:00] Closing

Mar 14, 2024 • 52min
Andrew Raba: Keeping Safe with Psychics and Seers
In this week's episode of the Heart of Yoga Podcast, Mark and Andy Raba explore the world of psychics, seers, shamans and sages. As director of the Yoga Education in Schools Charitable Trust in New Zealand, Andy leads initiatives to bring yoga-based health programs to young people in NZ and abroad.With a Master's degree and over a decade of experience fostering literacy in NZ schools, Andrew has extensively published on yoga and meditation and is dedicated to bringing yoga's benefits to students' wellbeing. They discuss how to discern truth from charlatanry, the ethics around predicting the future, and why embodiment through yoga is key. Mark emphasizes the importance of maintaining autonomy through daily yoga practice rather than seeking escape or solutions from spiritual leaders. He shares perspective on how psychics and seers should serve the community without claiming special powers. Mark and Andy also talk about relating to the subtle realm, trauma healing, and keeping ourselves safe from disempowerment on the spiritual path. Tune in for an insightful discussion about navigating the mystical with open eyes and an empowered heart. Key Points: There are genuine psychics and seers who have special abilities to perceive realms beyond normal perception. However, there are many more charlatans who falsely claim such abilities. To discern truth from falsehood, it's important to have your own direct participation and intimacy with reality through yoga practice. This gives you autonomy and empowerment. Making predictions about the future is unethical. It implies you don't have access now to deeper knowledge about your life. Psychics and seers should be ordinary, humble people, not claiming to be special or different. Their abilities should be used to serve the community, not for ego or profit. For people with trauma, the subtle realm can seem an escape. But yoga brings embodiment and healing, not escape. Wake down into the body, don't go up into the subtle. The gross tangible world and the subtle intangible world are one, not separate. Through embodiment and intimacy with the tangible, we access the intangible. Keep yourself safe from disempowerment by spiritual leaders. With yoga practice for autonomy, you can discern who to learn from without losing yourself. Connect with Any Raba : Instagram: @_andyraba_ www.yogainschools.org.nz Follow this podcast for new episodes here: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | RSS/XML If you feel moved to submit a question for a future episode, you can do so here: https://www.heartofyoga.com/podcast You can find more from the Heart of Yoga on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yogaofheart YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeartofYoga and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/markwhitwell

Nov 27, 2023 • 1h 4min
No Such Thing as A Thoughtless State: Embracing Presence Over Ideals in Yoga with Eva Košćak
In this episode, Mark interviews Eva about her journey discovering Yoga and music. Eva shares how she was classically trained in cello as a child but hated the competitive pressure. She dropped music for 18 years until finding Yoga, which helped her rediscover enjoyment and presence. A few years into Yoga, Eva spontaneously picked up guitar and started playing purely for pleasure, posting videos online. Mark and Eva explore how yoga catalyzed Eva's musical reawakening. Yoga helped Eva let go of striving for perfection and future attainment, and instead play music for the joy of each moment. Eva discusses how Yoga taught her to receive support and gave her courage to be vulnerable sharing imperfect musical videos. She also describes realizing Yoga isn't about achieving a thoughtless state, but being fully immersed in each experience. Eva offers an inspirational example of how Yoga provided the foundation to rediscover her musical self by cultivating presence, receptivity and relationship. Keypoints: [00:03:00] Discovering yoga helped Eva find enjoyment and presence [00:05:00] Yoga was the catalyst that allowed Eva's musical talent to emerge [00:08:00] Eva learned to receive support and be vulnerable through Yoga [00:12:00] Eva rejected the competitive classical music system as a teen [00:18:00] Finding a Yoga teacher who respected Eva as an individual was pivotal [00:20:00] Yoga felt like the opposite of Eva's prior athletic yoga experience [00:25:00] Eva played music purely for enjoyment rather than future goals [00:30:00] Eva had to unlearn criticism and perfectionism around mistakes [00:40:00] Simple Yoga helped a depressed musician rediscover her artistry [00:50:00] Eva realized Yoga wasn't about achieving a thoughtless state Memorable Quotes "Yoga as a system should adapt to the individual, not the other way around." "It's not to get to the end, to the grand crescendo of the great symphony. It's every note along the way in harmony with every other note." "There's no state like that, that I should be striving towards. What I have right now and what I'm doing right now is it." Follow this podcast for new episodes here: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | RSS/XML If you feel moved to submit a question for a future episode, you can do so here: https://www.heartofyoga.com/podcast You can find more from the Heart of Yoga on Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram.

Nov 14, 2023 • 48min
From Recognition to Embodiment: A Yogi's Journey with Irina Esposito
In this episode of the Heart of Yoga podcast, Mark has an insightful conversation with his student Irina Esposito about her journey with Yoga. The cosmos and everything in the cosmos is obviously a pure intelligence, energy and an intrinsic harmony. In religious language of ancient India it is Shiva Shakti… or all that is, and there are no problems. This was Irina’s sudden realization. It hit her “like a done of bricks”. This is the realization of an ordinary life of anybody when the Hatha Yoga Tantras are practiced daily, actually, naturally and non obsessively. Life is unity, an indivisible condition of no separation, no difference, unique individuation in the context of utter singularity. Thank you Irina for your Yôga realization and sharing this, your self with the world Here. Irina shares how the simple daily yoga practice Mark taught her is transformative. She began to feel more connected to herself and worry less. The conversation explores pivotal moments of recognition Irina experienced through her practice, as well as how yoga shifted her perspective on body image and food. An illuminating part of the talk is when old family patterns came up after a vacation with a parent, showing there are still habitual conditionings even after deep insights. Overall, the episode offers a beautiful glimpse into the power of dedicated yoga practice. Timestamps: 3:55 - They discuss Irina's experience in yoga teacher training with Mark and how she started a daily practice. 12:55 - Irina talks about how yoga helped her feel more connected to herself and her body. 28:35 - Irina describes a moment of recognition where she deeply felt that the whole universe is female and male energy. 38:50 - Irina shares how yoga changed her relationship to food and body image. 55:15 - Irina talks about going on vacation with her mother after her recognition and how old patterns came up again. Quotes: "You gave us the simple practice and I just tried to do it every day. And this is so different to the practice I did before." "I don't overthink that much. The crown is open and receiving." Follow this podcast for new episodes here: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | RSS/XML If you feel moved to submit a question for a future episode, you can do so here: https://www.heartofyoga.com/podcast You can find more from the Heart of Yoga on Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram.

Oct 23, 2023 • 1h 4min
Breathing, Unity, and Healing: On The Yoga Bus with Joseph Lauricella (#54)
In this episode, I'm joined by Joseph Lauricella. We dive into Joseph's journey on The Yoga Bus, making yoga accessible to everyone. It is truly inspiring. We talk about the power of yoga for newcomers and the limitations of the popular styles. Joseph shares his motivation behind his book, "Miracle of Body Wisdom," and his vision for authentic yoga education for all. We discuss the discipline of writing a book. Also the function of yoga in dealing with anxiety in tough times. We explore how whole body breathing can boost our well-being and making yoga suitable for everyone, regardless of beliefs or body type. We discus the YES program, Yôga Education in Schools. How Yoga isn't just an exercise; it's vital for our future, a subject as vital as any other subject taught in schools, such as mathematics or physics! We discuss unity, authenticity, and the healing journey after loss. Joseph shares his personal story of loss and healing, and the positive impact of recent gatherings and upcoming retreats in Mexico. We're all in this together. Follow this podcast for new episodes here: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | RSS/XML If you feel moved to submit a question for a future episode, you can do so here: https://www.heartofyoga.com/podcast You can find more from the Heart of Yoga on Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram.

Sep 7, 2023 • 42min
Kurtis Goodwolf x Mark Whitwell: A Voyage to India, Mark's First Steps (#53)
In this episode, we dive deep into Mark's transformative journey to India. Mark shares his personal experiences and first impressions upon arriving in this vibrant and diverse country. He discusses how The Beatles' presence in Rishikesh influenced his interest in Indian wisdom traditions, making it a global phenomenon. Mark reflects on the powerful impact of rock music from England and the U.S. on his life, particularly highlighting the musical genius of Ray Davies from The Kinks. He opens up about his initial moments in India, painting a vivid picture of the sights, sounds, and emotions that overwhelmed him. We explore the challenges and insights of being a white minority in India, contrasting it with Mark's observations as a part of the white majority in New Zealand. Mark shares his candid thoughts on India's lack of a social welfare system and how survival takes on a unique meaning in this bustling country. Throughout our conversation, Mark takes us on a spiritual journey, recounting his encounters with Bhakti Vedanta Swami and the worldwide temple movement initiated through chanting in Hyde Park. We delve into the essence of India's holy cities, bringing to light the blend of spirituality and commerce that characterizes them. Mark's trip to India serves as the central narrative, intertwining with various topics such as colonialism and the preservation of authenticity in a rapidly changing world. Mark's personal experiences and insights offer a captivating window into his adventure and the profound impact it had on his life. Follow this podcast for new episodes here: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | RSS/XML If you feel moved to submit a question for a future episode, you can do so here: https://www.heartofyoga.com/podcast You can find more from the Heart of Yoga on Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram.

Jul 7, 2023 • 40min
Yoga Adapted to Cultural Context: Japan with Minami Takashima (#52)
Our guest today is our wonderful collaborator in Japan, Minami Takashima. Minami is a yogini and heart of Yôga teacher, teaching in the traditions of the hathayoga non dual Tantra. She has written the introduction to the Japanese second edition of Mark Whitwell’s Yôga Heart and teaches throughout Japan and the world. Born in Sapporo, Japan, she found that early life spiritual awakenings were not really helping with the pain of corporate life and socialization, but were rather making society’s misalignment with nature’s flow even more obvious and miserable. One day, she came across Mark’s book Yoga of Heart, and says “this changed my life completely.” “There’s no steps to be taken”. “Everything you are seeking to become, you already are.” “You are the power of the cosmos”— the book was a great statement of your life’s actual worth. Minami has had victory over the oppressive misogyny of society that restricts women, and men, and all of life. In this victory she understands the difficulties of the usual life, so can be extremely helpful to others going through what she has had to go through herself. In Yôga such a person is called the “Acharya”, one who can teach. Minami found that traditional heart of Yoga, Hathayoga practice bridges spirituality and tangible reality, allowing our masculine and feminine aspects to find their natural harmony. Knowing herself and her students to be Reality itself (“divine existence” itsel.) Minami teaches from the authority of her own experience and power. She lives in Japan and New Zealand with her yogi-musician husband Rey. Teaching mainly one on one in an intimate, traditional way, Minami serves others to find their innate power, intelligence and beauty. Follow this podcast for new episodes here: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | RSS/XML If you feel moved to submit a question for a future episode, you can do so here: https://www.heartofyoga.com/podcast You can find more from the Heart of Yoga on Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram.

Jun 16, 2023 • 1h 39min
Clayton Joseph Scott Talks of Music, Addiction, Seeking and Surrender (#51)
Clayton Joseph Scott is a singer, songwriter and master Yoga Teacher. Born in Los Angeles, California, he attended Santa Monica High School. Clayton lived most of his life as a street hustling native of Venice Ca. He was raised in the culture of musicians and pioneers of the counter culture. Clayton speaks clearly about over coming addiction of every kind. He was in his own words, a gourmet addict, masterful at keeping addictions finely counteracting each so as to hold them in all in place. Until…. ? As a Yôga enthusiast (one of his addictions) for many years Clayton mastered all the popular styles of the yoga industry. In this context he discovered the principles of the modern founder of Yôga, Tirumalai Krishnamacharya and was then able to make sense of it all. Clayton’s own music career is highlighted by his touring band Brightside. He has a number of notable albums of poetic depth and beauty. Albums and EPs include Heavy Rest, More Love, West of Lincoln, Let Go and View from the Moon. Follow this podcast for new episodes here: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | RSS/XML If you feel moved to submit a question for a future episode, you can do so here: https://www.heartofyoga.com/podcast You can find more from the Heart of Yoga on Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram.