The Fire Time Podcast

Tim Reed
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Dec 9, 2025 • 1h 7min

Grant Falco - Sales is a Race to 10 Points

"Try to win the games that no one else realizes they're playing." This week , Tim dives into one of his favorite quotes with its proverbist, Grant Falco, President of Falcos Spokane. They explore everything from greeting customers, to effort towards finding answers, to how your parking lot looks, in order to win ten points and make the sale - because everything your business does is either gaining points or losing points. Tune in now to hear why the race to ten is not that hard if you understand the game and why you should do the small things the same way you do the big things. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read The Fire Time Magazine Reader Edition online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://magazine.itsfiretime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download The Fire Time Magazine app to get full access to the magazine (for free): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/app⁠⁠
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Dec 2, 2025 • 1h 13min

Steve Marshman - Why Everyone Should be Planning for Retirement

"Money does not buy security. Money does not buy freedom. It does buy flexibility." This week , Tim sits down with Steve Marshman to talk about financial investing to create wealth future wealth. In a change of pace from podcast topics of sales, marketing, or leadership, they dive into thinking about the future, planning for retirement, and being wise. Tim and Steve discuss: Planning for the future when you are running a business and busy dealing with daily operations, problems, or responsibilities. Where to start and the Top Four Rules of Investing: 1) Diversify your investments. 2) Know your fees. 3) Have a "time horizon." 4) Emotion is your biggest enemy. How to think about market volatility, the pros/cons of a financial advisor, and index funds vs. actively managed funds. Happiness, being a successful investor over time, teaching others to invest, and teaching others to give. Don't miss this unique and practical episode to hear what you should be putting in place for yourself, or the people that work within your organization, to build wealth and create flexibility for the future. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read The Fire Time Magazine Reader Edition online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://magazine.itsfiretime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download The Fire Time Magazine app to get full access to the magazine (for free): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/app⁠⁠
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Nov 25, 2025 • 57min

Gary Yoder - Serve First, Win Second

"At the core - every interaction, every connection that we make, we try not to ever look at an order as just another dollar. It's an interaction with someone." In this episode, Tim is joined by Gary Yoder, President of Sales and CMO at Stoll Industries, to discuss generosity and their notoriously positive approach to business. In the heart of the season, they talk about the purpose of business and stewardship of our resources, in order to be generous to the people around us. Tim and Gary cover: Relationships being at the core of what you do and having your impression and impact be more than just dollars and cents. Making wise and sustainable decisions in how and what you give back to the community. How an approach of generosity inspires people, builds momentum, and fuels team member engagement. Challenges that come with having an approach of service and generosity. Check out Stoll at https://www.stollindustries.com and don't miss this episode to hear how harnessing generosity as a superpower supports your team, grows deep customer loyalty, and can be a force for good. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read The Fire Time Magazine Reader Edition online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://magazine.itsfiretime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download The Fire Time Magazine app to get full access to the magazine (for free): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/app⁠⁠
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Nov 18, 2025 • 1h 7min

What's Best Next? Prioritizing the 4 Critical Tasks of a Salesperson

"How do we make the most of the time that we have, realizing that there are so many things pulling at us for our focus and attention?" This week, Tim shares one of his courses from the 2025 Digital Fire Time Summit. In his course, Tim talks about: Managing the tension of the "whirlwind" and the wildly important work that has to get done. The axis scale of urgent vs. important and the four quadrants of work. "The Tim Rethlake Time Ratio" and the benefit of investing the time to understand a customer's problem and advise a solution. Prioritizing the 4 Critical Tasks of a Sales Person: 1.) Sit down with every customer and complete an Understanding Form. 2.) Write an estimate for every customer before they leave. 3.) Follow up with 15 customers each week. 4.) Send thank-you cards to your customers every month. Tune in now to experience this live class and learn how to have more capacity on the back end by being diligent on the front end. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read The Fire Time Magazine Reader Edition online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://magazine.itsfiretime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download The Fire Time Magazine app to get full access to the magazine (for free): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/app⁠⁠
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Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 27min

Kenneth Walker - Showrooms Part 3

"We're treating people the way we want to be treated." This week, Tim and Kenneth Walker pull a hat trick for a Part 3 of their discussion about the process of building a winning showroom. In this episode, Tim and Kenneth wrap up the showroom miniseries answering questions and talking about: What to think about in the early phases of building a showroom: finding a location, venting, staffing, hours, and knowing the difference between "retail" and "showroom." When and how to determine your product lines while considering your space, product positioning/placement, and variety balance before looking into models or manufacturer availability. How to maximize a small showroom by thinking about what your area supports, what kid of products you can comfortably sell, and where you can grow down the road. Items that should be on a Showroom Build Checklist and a Showroom Execution Checklist: 1. Weekly Traffic Counter, 2. Customer Understanding Form, 3. Showroom Basics List, 4. Easy Estimate Solution, and 5. Repeatable Sales Process. Finish this showroom episode trifecta to hear what should be in place when starting a showroom and how execute a plan with tools and confidence. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read The Fire Time Magazine Reader Edition online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://magazine.itsfiretime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download The Fire Time Magazine app to get full access to the magazine (for free): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/app⁠⁠
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Nov 4, 2025 • 54min

Sales Lessons from Pat Butson

"Sales is a 30-minute love affair." This week, Tim shares lessons from Pat Butson, a hearth industry legend who became Tim's sales mentor in his retirement. With four decades of experience at Vermont Castings, Majestic, and Whitfield—plus a legendary handshake as a national arm wrestling champion—Pat combined fierce confidence with gentle compassion that made him unstoppable on the sales floor. In this episode, Tim shares Pat's wisdom through stories and practical lessons: The three-step sales hierarchy that changes everything: First sell yourself, second sell your company, third sell your product—in that exact order. The 30-minute love affair philosophy: Pat fell in love with every customer, giving everything of himself during their time together rather than treating them with jaded indifference. First person to talk loses: After sliding your quote across the table and stating the price, shut your mouth and let the customer respond—they'll reveal whether you have a sale or need to address objections. Don't miss this tribute episode honoring a sales master who proved that confidence without compassion means nothing, and that finding ways to give customers a win will always beat protecting margin on every transaction. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 34min

Mark Stoner & Kenneth Walker - Building a Winning Showroom (Part 2)

"Pick the story first, then go find the brands to fit it." This week, Kenneth Walker returns and is joined by podcast and industry veteran Mark Stoner, President of Ashbusters, to have a practical conversation about the process of building an actual showroom. In this episode, Tim, Mark, and Kenneth discuss: Product positioning in your showroom so that they tell a cohesive story and make it easier for customers to understand both what they are and how they can solve their particular problem. The Good/Better/Best display approach: Good - cost effective with a few basic options. Better - "Bang for the buck." Best - Premium look with the most design flexibility. Showroom elements, layout, and coming up with a plan/sticking to it; displays, digital design centers, music, and how to balance those things effectively. What are we doing with the opportunities that we have? Using foundational metrics to turn intentional marketing dollars into estimates and sales. The planned follow-up for showroom visits and "Explaining the Process" to customers, while maintaining the goal of getting into the home. Don't miss this follow-up to last week's episode to hear why applying the sales and marketing process to a showroom in a new way can make you a better service company. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read The Fire Time Magazine Reader Edition online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://magazine.itsfiretime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download The Fire Time Magazine app to get full access to the magazine (for free): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/app⁠⁠
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Oct 21, 2025 • 1h 29min

Kenneth Walker - 5 Principles for a Winning Showroom

"The purpose of your showroom is to sell the in-home visit." This week, Tim welcomes Kenneth Walker, independent sales rep for Fire Walker Sales covering nine states, to break down the five principles every winning fireplace showroom needs. Kenneth has seen hundreds of showrooms—from thriving retail operations to struggling chimney service companies trying to break into retail—and shares exactly what separates success from failure. In this episode, Tim and Kenneth discuss: Why marketing your showroom is step one: Most customers don't randomly walk into hearth stores—they're destination shopping, which means if you don't tell them you exist with clear CTAs, QR codes on trucks, and explicit messaging, they'll never find you. Simple and thoughtful always beats big and fancy: A tight 20x20 showroom with strategic product placement will outsell a massive space with 40 wood stoves and 17 brands where customers get lost and salespeople can't become experts on anything. Product positioning is your secret weapon: Stop trying to show everything from every brand and instead build a clear price ladder using each vendor's strengths—like the taco truck with beef, chicken, and fish tacos, not 45 varieties of beef. Signage and pricing eliminate customer anxiety: Posting average installed price ranges shows customers the full ladder from $4,000 to $9,500, takes price off the table as an objection, and naturally wins the sit-down estimate without awkward budget conversations. In-home appointments are where you actually sell fireplaces: The showroom sells the home visit, the home visit sells the fireplace—and charging customers $250 to come measure means you're tripping over hundred dollar bills trying to pick up pennies. Don't miss this tactical guide to building a showroom that creates buying experiences instead of browsing experiences. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 2min

Seth Fultz - Value Over Price: The Long Game in Sales

"The work starts when you make the sale." This week, Tim does a deep-dive into the intricacies of sales with his friend Seth Fultz, Regional Sales Manages at Bridgewell Resources, who talks about his experience wearing multiple hats within his role - from inventory management and in/outbound logistics, to truck driver manager and even amateur psychologist. In this episode, Tim and Seth cover: Selling on price, value, and service when your product is the same as your competitors or you are competing against manufacturers. Developing a sales process and why sales is ultimately about service. Behaviors that every salesperson should adopt and pursuing business that hasn't closed yet. Persistence, sticking with a process, and being comfortable with rejection in order to make it long-term. Tune in now to hear this unique perspective from a completely different industry and how it relates to your business and sales process. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Oct 7, 2025 • 33min

Bart Ogden - Building a Service-First Business

"Service isn't a necessary evil—it's your most valuable relationship builder." This week, Tim welcomes Bart Ogden, owner of Home Safe Hearth & Chimney in Wichita, Kansas, to discuss how service work can be the foundation of a thriving hearth business. Starting as a chimney sweep in 1979 in a town of 600 people, Bart built his company on a simple principle: if someone calls needing help, we're going to help them—regardless of brand, age, or who installed it. In this episode, Tim and Bart discuss: Why servicing everything—not just what you sell—builds long-term customer relationships that outlast and outperform the initial sale. The lifetime value of a service customer: How annual or bi-annual maintenance over decades generates more revenue than the original installation, and creates trust when replacement is finally needed. Profitability through knowing your numbers: Why specialty service businesses need 60% margins to thrive, and how to build a supply chain that supports servicing all brands. Building a systematic training program: How Bart created a 100-day curriculum using certification paths (CSIA, NFI) that trains every technician to the same standard, regardless of their background. The power of great inspections: Why every successful service job starts with ensuring customers know the exact condition of their system, then letting them choose what happens next. Don't miss this episode that reframes service from an afterthought into the strategic foundation of a sustainable hearth business. ------ Become a supporter of The Fire Time Network and get access to awesome rewards: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://itsfiretime.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more audio articles from our magazine, subscribe to the Fire Time Magazine Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/magazine⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get a copy of the 2025 Fire Time Journal: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.itsfiretime.com/journal⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read The Fire Time Magazine Reader Edition online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://magazine.itsfiretime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠

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