

People Who Read People: A Behavior and Psychology Podcast
Zachary Elwood
This is a podcast about deciphering human behavior and understanding why people do the things they do. I, Zach Elwood, talk with people from a wide range of fields about how they make sense of human behavior and psychology. I've talked to jury consultants, interrogation professionals, behavior researchers, sports analysts, professional poker players, to name a few. There are more than 135 episodes, many of them quite good (although some say I'm biased). To learn more, go to PeopleWhoReadPeople.com.
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May 8, 2022 • 1h 25min
Reading relationship "tells": Behavioral indicators of strong or unhealthy couples
A 2019 talk with psychologist and relationship researcher Dr. Brandi Fink. Topics discussed include: some common physical and verbal behaviors (like eye rolls and other indicators of contempt) that indicate trouble in a relationship, and those that can indicate relationship improvement or health; the goals of analyzing the video-taped behaviors of couples/families; tips for improving a relationship; the challenges of creating a behavior coding system (not wanting to go too micro-level or too macro-level).
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May 1, 2022 • 1h 16min
Pros and cons of different social media content moderation policies, with Bill Ottman
A talk with Bill Ottman, co-founder and CEO of the social media platform Minds, which is known for its minimal content moderation approach. Ottman and others (including Daryl Davis, a black man known for singlehandedly deradicalizing white supremacists) recently wrote a paper titled "The Censorship Effect," which examined how strict censorship/banning policies may actually increase antisocial, radicalized views. We talk about the psychology behind how increased censorship policies may increase grievances and anger, about Elon Musk buying Twitter and what it means, about the complexity of the problems we face, and about strategies they've used on the Minds platform.
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Apr 19, 2022 • 48min
Are a majority of Americans actually racist? Or is "new racism" overstated?
I talk with political scientist Leonie Huddy on the topic of research on American racism and prejudice. I was interested in discussing framings like this one from a 2012 USA Today article: "U.S. majority have prejudice against blacks" and ask her if such confident framings were justified based on the research, or if they were over-stated and irresponsible. Topics discussed: the ambiguity that can be present when attempting to study prejudice, especially for studies that seek to measure it rather indirectly; how worst-case and pessimistic framings and interpretations of studies and surveys can add to us-versus-them political animosity.
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Apr 10, 2022 • 52min
Cryptocurrency, problem gambling, and addiction, with Paul Delfabbro
A talk with psychology and addiction behavior researcher Paul Delfabbro about cryptocurrency, problem gambling, and addiction. Delfabbro has worked on several papers related to cryptocurrency, including a paper titled "The psychology of cryptocurrency trading: Risk and protective factors" and one titled "Cryptocurrency trading, gambling, and problem gambling." Other topics: the extent to which problem gambling is a problem amongst cryptocurrency traders; some psych factors that can be present for the more addicted and cult-like crypto behaviors; whether covid might have played a role in cryptocurrency price fluctuations; the role of the internet in amplifying temptations and addictions; the role of social media in getting people excited about cryptocurrency; video game addiction.
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Mar 17, 2022 • 1h 30min
A talk with a Trump voter who thinks the 2020 election was stolen
An examination of the reasons why people believe the 2020 election was "rigged," stolen, or otherwise illegitimate. This includes a talk with Peter Wood, a sociologist and political thinker and writer, who strongly believes that the 2020 election was stolen. Other topics discussed: election distrust by liberals (in 2016, for example), and how election distrust and chaos is a common endpoint for very polarized democratic nations.
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Mar 16, 2022 • 51min
Detecting lies via facial muscles and machine learning, with Dino Levy
A talk with Dino Levy about his research team's research, which used monitoring of facial muscles and machine learning to detect lies at an impressive 73% success rate. Their paper was titled "Lie to my face: An electromyography approach to the study of deceptive behavior." We talk about the results, the possible explanations, comparisons to polygraph lie detection, and applications of this research and lie detection technology in general.
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Mar 5, 2022 • 59min
How many Americans actually support political violence?, with Thomas Zeitzoff
A talk with political scientist Thomas Zeitzoff, who has studied political conflicts. We talk about survey results that show an increase in Americans' willingness to support political violence, and how that relates to our fears over future violent conflicts and "civil war" scenarios in America. Other topics discussed include: the ambiguity in political surveys; how overstated claims of support for political violence can lead to a self-reinforcing dynamic and a self-fulfilling prophecy; the psychology of polarization; the Ukraine-Russia conflict and the role of social media in that; the effects of social media on society in general.
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Feb 16, 2022 • 58min
The challenges of studying poker tells scientifically, with Brandon Sheils
Brandon Sheils is a professional poker player who recently did a scientific study of poker tells as part of getting a Masters degree in Psychology. Topics discussed: the challenges of studying poker behavior; how he structured his study; what the results were; AI and machine learning potential for studying behavior; some times he's used behavior to make a poker decision.
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Feb 9, 2022 • 60min
On how distance can make it easier to kill (and do other harsh things), with psych researcher Abe Rutchick
Psychological researcher Abe Rutchick talks about his work showing that killing is easier at a distance. He talks about how the experiment was designed, and about antisocial behavior in general being more likely when at a distance. We talk about his research related to how people attribute moral responsibility when it comes to harm inflicted by autonomous self-driving vehicles. And we talk about some studies he worked on that involved poker.
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Feb 3, 2022 • 1h 21min
On American polarization and experiences as a black conservative, with John Wood Jr.
John Wood Jr. is a leader and ambassador of the depolarization group Braver Angels. He ran for Congress in 2014 as a Republican against Maxine Waters. Topics discussed include: the history of American polarization; us-vs-them behaviors of leaders on both political sides; what drew him to conservative politics; how traditional conservatism differs from the Trump brand of conservatism; what it's like being black and conservative; black American political thought; GOP efforts to make voting harder.
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