Swimming with Allocators

Earnest Sweat, Alexa Binns
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Mar 19, 2025 • 50min

The Secret Sauce of Allocating: Endurance is Key with Lockwood Holmes of Vincimus Capital

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Lockwood's Background and Journey (0:46) Vincimus Capital Overview (2:09) Democratization of Private Markets (3:51) Transition to Private Equity (4:52) Influence of Shackleton's Endurance (7:43) Current Market Opportunities (8:40) Criteria for Ideal Clients (14:26) Opportunities in Larger Investments (17:09) Slow Dating in Manager Selection (20:26) Evaluating Deal Opportunities (22:07) Insider Segment: SVB's Approach to Innovation (26:10) Diversification in Venture Capital (31:07) Investment Buckets (36:02) Philanthropy in Wealth Management (39:00) Fund Manager Dynamics (41:55) The Importance of Patience in Investment (46:28) Connecting with Contacting Vincimus Capital and Final Thoughts (48:22) Vincimus Capital is an investment platform and community founded upon shared values and trusted relationships. As a team of capital allocators, we seek to deliver risk-adjusted returns that support the present and future needs of the values-aligned families we serve. Learn more: https://www.vincimus.com/Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), a division of First Citizens Bank, is the bank of the world’s most innovative companies and investors. SVB provides commercial and private banking to individuals and companies in the technology, life science and healthcare, private equity, venture capital and premium wine industries. SVB operates in centers of innovation throughout the United States, serving the unique needs of its dynamic clients with deep sector expertise, insights and connections. SVB’s parent company, First Citizens BancShares, Inc. (NASDAQ: FCNCA), is a top 20 U.S. financial institution with more than $200 billion in assets. First Citizens Bank, Member FDIC. Learn more at svb.com.Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 5, 2025 • 53min

Investing for Justice: How Capital Drives Change with Ian Fuller of Westfuller Advisors

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Ian’s Journey in Wealth Management (0:41) Founding Westfuller Advisors (5:05) Challenges in Early Days (10:36) Current Differentiation and Pitch (12:18) Long-term Strategic Asset Allocation Model (14:37) Ownership Lens Focus (16:57) Advocacy for Due Diligence (18:16) Economic Mobility and Career Decisions (22:32) Insider Segmeng: Catalyst 2045 Initiative Overview (25:59) Investment Focus Areas (28:32) Challenges in Supporting Underrepresented Founders (32:16) Future of Values-Aligned Investing (35:04) Investment in Generative AI (40:56) Incremental Impact in Investment (43:46) Active Ownership and Corporate Stewardship (46:43) Building Long-Term Partnerships (48:39) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (50:55) Westfuller Advisors is a values-driven investment advisory and wealth management firm dedicated to providing advice, strategy, and investment management for mission-aligned individuals, families, nonprofits, and foundations globally. Committed to fostering a just and equitable society, Westfuller integrates clients' values into tailored financial solutions. Learn more: https://westfulleradvisors.com/Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), a division of First Citizens Bank, is the bank of the world’s most innovative companies and investors. SVB provides commercial and private banking to individuals and companies in the technology, life science and healthcare, private equity, venture capital and premium wine industries. SVB operates in centers of innovation throughout the United States, serving the unique needs of its dynamic clients with deep sector expertise, insights and connections. SVB’s parent company, First Citizens BancShares, Inc. (NASDAQ: FCNCA), is a top 20 U.S. financial institution with more than $200 billion in assets. First Citizens Bank, Member FDIC. Learn more at svb.com.Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 19, 2025 • 1h 6min

Capital Formation Secrets: Unlocking the Power Law in Venture Capital with Meghan Reynolds of Altimeter Capital

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Meghan's Background and Journey (1:18) Capital Formation Insights (7:39) Lessons from Goldman Sachs (9:05) Advice for Emerging Managers (11:11) Importance of Client Experience (17:00) The Competitive Landscape of Venture Capital (19:14) Changing GP and LP Relationships (23:29) Creativity in Investor Relationships (28:19) Insider Segment: Florida’s Diverse Venture Ecosystem (31:10) Challenges and Opportunities in Florida Startups (35:40) Talent Access and Flexibility (39:08) Institutional Reporting Challenges (41:02) Trust and Transparency in Fundraising (45:23) Institutional LP Process Advice (49:35) Power Law in Venture Capital (54:35) Understanding Capital Allocation (56:49) Fund Sizes and Venture Capital Dynamics (1:00:12) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (1:05:10) Altimeter Capital Management is a leading investment firm specializing in technology-focused public and private market investments. By integrating insights across markets, Altimeter aims to drive innovation in the financial industry.http://www.altimeter.com/Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), a division of First Citizens Bank, is the bank of the world’s most innovative companies and investors. SVB provides commercial and private banking to individuals and companies in the technology, life science and healthcare, private equity, venture capital and premium wine industries. SVB operates in centers of innovation throughout the United States, serving the unique needs of its dynamic clients with deep sector expertise, insights and connections. SVB’s parent company, First Citizens BancShares, Inc. (NASDAQ: FCNCA), is a top 20 U.S. financial institution with more than $200 billion in assets. First Citizens Bank, Member FDIC. Learn more at svb.com.Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 5, 2025 • 56min

Investment Strategies Through Cycles with Samir Kaji of Allocate

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: ​​Samir’s Background and Journey (0:31) Founding Allocate (1:09) Emerging Managers Focus (4:26) Market Cycles and Investment Strategies (8:11) Current Market Trends (12:22) Illiquidity in Venture Capital (14:04) Misconceptions About Venture Capital (16:05) Direct Investments vs. Fund of Funds (19:51) Operational Needs of Wealth Advisors (22:13) Building Infrastructure for Investment (24:16) Insider Segment: Nico Toro of Silicon Valley Bank (27:00) Customization in Different Markets (28:55) Understanding Local Ecosystems (30:07) Opportunities in Fintech (32:26) Consolidation in Private Equity (36:49) Investment Strategies for Family Offices (40:43) Responsible Participation in Venture Capital (44:50) Ideal Investor Profile (47:05) Market Growth and Challenges (50:04) Current Investment Climate (52:00) Connecting with Samir and Final Thoughts (53:12) Allocate is a platform designed to modernize and democratize private market investing by providing accredited investors with curated access to top-tier private capital funds and direct investment opportunities. Allocate’s mission is to empower a broader audience of investors to participate in private markets while emphasizing transparency, efficiency, and inclusivity. https://www.allocate.coSilicon Valley Bank (SVB), a division of First Citizens Bank, is the bank of the world’s most innovative companies and investors. SVB provides commercial and private banking to individuals and companies in the technology, life science and healthcare, private equity, venture capital and premium wine industries. SVB operates in centers of innovation throughout the United States, serving the unique needs of its dynamic clients with deep sector expertise, insights and connections. SVB’s parent company, First Citizens BancShares, Inc. (NASDAQ: FCNCA), is a top 20 U.S. financial institution with more than $200 billion in assets. First Citizens Bank, Member FDIC. Learn more at svb.com.Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jan 22, 2025 • 1h 3min

Building Europe’s First Tech-Focused Fund of Funds with Ertan Can of Multiple Capital

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Insider Segment: SVB’s Role in the Innovation Economy (1:14) Challenges for Emerging Managers (4:31) Global Innovation and Connectivity (6:15) SVB's Offerings Beyond Financing (8:41) Treasury Services and Liquidity Solutions (10:59) Ertan Can’s Background and Journey into VC (13:45) The Birth of Multiple Capital (17:41) Pan-European Portfolio Strategy (20:38) Investment Jurisdictions and Structures (24:06) Opportunities for US Investors (28:27) Exit Markets and Valuation Benefits (30:01) The Rise of European Startups (33:08) Identifying Outliers in the Ecosystem (35:10) Focus on Small and Seed-Stage Funds (38:31) Adapting to Market Changes (42:26) Advantages of Solo GPs (45:24) Future of the European Market (50:27) The Randomness of Venture Success (54:25) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (1:01:09) Multiple Capital is Europe’s first tech-focused fund of micro funds, founded in 2018 by Ertan Can. The firm invests in emerging and solo fund managers across Europe and the U.S., focusing on overlooked opportunities in niche geographies and verticals. With a portfolio spanning over 1,000 companies, Multiple Capital aims to democratize access to early-stage tech investments and foster innovation. Learn more: https://www.multiple.capital/Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), a division of First Citizens Bank, is the bank of the world’s most innovative companies and investors. SVB provides commercial and private banking to individuals and companies in the technology, life science and healthcare, private equity, venture capital and premium wine industries. SVB operates in centers of innovation throughout the United States, serving the unique needs of its dynamic clients with deep sector expertise, insights and connections. SVB’s parent company, First Citizens BancShares, Inc. (NASDAQ: FCNCA), is a top 20 U.S. financial institution with more than $200 billion in assets. First Citizens Bank, Member FDIC. Learn more at svb.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dec 4, 2024 • 43min

DDQ: OCIO Acquisitions, Family Office Co-Investments, and 2025 Predictions

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Reflections on Season 2 (0:45) Discussion on Industry Changes (2:18) Concerns Over Capital Allocation (6:05) Emerging Trends in Allocator Careers (8:18) Co-Investments Trend (10:23) Challenges of Co-Investing (12:43) Allocator Self-Awareness in Co-Investing (17:52) Debate on Valuation Processes (19:02) Challenges of Fundraising (22:00) Impact of AI on the Industry (23:21) Targeting the Right LPs (25:02) Predictions for 2025 (29:51) Future Guests for the Podcast (32:08) Recommended Reading (34:41) Final Thoughts and Reflections (37:12) Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 27, 2024 • 46min

The Water Is Fine: Debunking Common Investment Fears

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Bob’s Background and the Best and Worst of Running a Coffee Shop (0:11)   Transition to Nonprofit Work (1:59)   Formative Experiences in Finance (3:47)   Transforming Nathan Cummings Foundation (5:43)   Shifting Organizational Culture (7:36) Convincing Skeptics of Impact Investing (11:53) Defining Impact Investing (15:03)   Mission-Aligned Investing Toolkit (16:28)   Insider Segment: AI Solutions for Today’s Financial Institutions (18:43) Custom AI Solutions (20:36) Multi-Channel Strategies (22:39) Investment Team Reflection (25:02) Due Diligence 20 Pledge (27:49) Accountability in Search Processes (32:02) Impact America Fund Investment (35:53)   Understanding Allocator Decisions (37:26)  Pay It Forward Mindset (38:02)   Encouragement for Impact Investing (39:17) Flexible Capital Initiative and Parting Thoughts (41:38) Nathan Cummings Foundation is a multigenerational family foundation, rooted in the Jewish tradition of social justice, working to create a more just, vibrant, sustainable, and democratic society. We partner with social movements, organizations and individuals who have creative and catalytic solutions to climate change and inequality. Learn more: http://nathancummings.orgBottega8 offers secure and cost-efficient AI Model Training and Fine-Tuning tailored for financial institutions. If you're concerned about the expense and complexity of building in-house AI teams, or worried about the privacy and security risks inherent in Big Tech AI APIs, we provide the ideal solution for your proprietary data.Bottega8's solution is specifically designed for institutional financial clients, including PE/VC funds, hedge funds, broker-dealers, traders, investment banks, and fintechs. By partnering with us, you eliminate the need for expensive AI engineers, hefty API fees, and complex technical roadmaps—reducing your AI development costs by up to 85%. If you're seeking AI Model Training and Fine-Tuning services that prioritize security and cost-efficiency without sacrificing Big Tech fidelity, we'd love to talk to you. Learn more at bottega8.com/swimming.Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 20, 2024 • 1h 7min

Your Investor Path to Greatness

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: The Story of the Ford Foundation (1:05) Development of Mission Investment Criteria (4:08) Results of the Investment Strategy (7:21) Complexity of Impact Investing (10:16) Importance of Long-Term Perspective (12:57) Learning and Adapting in Impact Investing (17:08) Quality Jobs Impact Investing (21:41) Insider Segment: AI-Driven Solutions for VC Funds and Portfolios (24:09) Successful Engagements and Outcomes (27:55) AI Integration in Business Strategies (29:53) Public Recognition of AI Efforts (33:29) Capital Access Imbalance (35:14) Impact of Diversity on Economic Growth (37:02) Portfolio Diversity Challenges (40:39) The Weaponization of Quotas (42:52) The Role of Behavioral Insights (48:43) Strategies to Reduce Bias (52:02) Advice for Diverse Fund Managers (57:55) Mergers and Consolidation Opportunities (1:00:14) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (1:04:46) The Ford Foundation is an independent organization working to address inequality and build a future grounded in justice. For more than 85 years, it has supported visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide, guided by its mission to strengthen democratic values, reduce poverty and injustice, promote international cooperation, and advance human achievement. Today, with an endowment of $16 billion, the foundation has headquarters in New York and 10 regional offices across Africa, Asia, Latin America, and the Middle East.Bottega8 offers secure and cost-efficient AI Model Training and Fine-Tuning tailored for financial institutions. If you're concerned about the expense and complexity of building in-house AI teams, or worried about the privacy and security risks inherent in Big Tech AI APIs, we provide the ideal solution for your proprietary data.Bottega8's solution is specifically designed for institutional financial clients, including PE/VC funds, hedge funds, broker-dealers, traders, investment banks, and fintechs. By partnering with us, you eliminate the need for expensive AI engineers, hefty API fees, and complex technical roadmaps—reducing your AI development costs by up to 85%. If you're seeking AI Model Training and Fine-Tuning services that prioritize security and cost-efficiency without sacrificing Big Tech fidelity, we'd love to talk to you. Learn more at bottega8.com/swimming.Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 13, 2024 • 40min

The CIO Mindset Every VC Needs

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Sarah's Background and Career Journey (0:18) Importance of Capital Allocation (5:09) Investment Philosophy (8:30) Manager Selection Framework (9:41) Framework Adaptability (12:54) Team-Based Decision Making (15:51) Investment Edge and Sustainability (16:43) Insider Segment: Enhancing Fund Thesis Through Custom AI Solutions (18:14) Impact of AI on VC Firms (21:03) The Role of Discipline in Fund Management (23:10) Importance of Mentorship in the Industry (27:38) Supporting Emerging Fund Managers (30:33) Explorer Rating Platform (32:45) Community Foundations' Impact (33:49) Braving Our Savings (35:05) Advice for Emerging Allocators (37:24) NEPC, LLC is one of the industry’s largest independent, full-service investment consulting firms, serving more than 400 clients with over $1.7T assets under advisement. Our mission is to help governments, institutions, families, and individuals preserve and grow their capital across different asset classes and market cycles. Our research-driven investment solutions are tailored to support your unique financial goals, constraints, beliefs and time horizons. As trusted and thoughtful stewards of capital, we measure our accomplishments by the success of our clients. As an employee-owned company, we know our greatest strength is our people, an exceptional and diverse group of professionals united in their commitment to fulfilling your long-term financial objectives. Our goal is to deliver objective investment advice and the highest level of service. We invite you to experience the NEPC difference. Visit nepc.com to learn more.  Bottega8 offers secure and cost-efficient AI Model Training and Fine-Tuning tailored for financial institutions. If you're concerned about the expense and complexity of building in-house AI teams, or worried about the privacy and security risks inherent in Big Tech AI APIs, we provide the ideal solution for your proprietary data.Bottega8's solution is specifically designed for institutional financial clients, including PE/VC funds, hedge funds, broker-dealers, traders, investment banks, and fintechs. By partnering with us, you eliminate the need for expensive AI engineers, hefty API fees, and complex technical roadmaps—reducing your AI development costs by up to 85%. If you're seeking AI Model Training and Fine-Tuning services that prioritize security and cost-efficiency without sacrificing Big Tech fidelity, we'd love to talk to you. Learn more at bottega8.com/swimming.Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Nov 6, 2024 • 46min

Adopting Marketing and Client Services Best Practices in Venture

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Christina's Accidental Career Path (0:51) Entry Into Hedge Funds (2:43) Storytelling in Venture Capital (3:22) Market Research Importance (5:54) Lessons from Bridgewater (7:55) Consulting at FBG (11:28) Education's Role in Consulting (13:03) Client Needs for Reliable Data (15:32) Understanding Venture Goals (17:39) DPI vs. IRR Narrative (18:43) Insider Segment: Custom AI Model Training (21:10) Data Security Risks (26:11) Cost-Effectiveness of Custom Solutions (28:14) Renaissance Venture Capital Overview (30:36) Overview of Startup Event Success (35:07) Investment Culture in Michigan (37:45) Criteria for Fund Selection (39:11) Importance of Risk Management (41:24) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (44:15) The Renaissance Venture Capital Fund was formed with the philosophy that venture capital is important for economic growth and that many major industrial and business regions such as the State of Michigan are underserved in the amount of venture capital available to fund exciting new ideas and technologies. Success is often built by a combination of innovation, capital and strong working relationships. Our belief is that by providing much needed capital to top tier venture capital firms that are active in Michigan and by building bridges between young innovation companies and Michigan's established business community, we can achieve regional success in the form of strong investment returns and economic growth.Bottega8 offers secure and cost-efficient AI Model Training and Fine-Tuning tailored for financial institutions. If you're concerned about the expense and complexity of building in-house AI teams, or worried about the privacy and security risks inherent in Big Tech AI APIs, we provide the ideal solution for your proprietary data.Bottega8's solution is specifically designed for institutional financial clients, including PE/VC funds, hedge funds, broker-dealers, traders, investment banks, and fintechs. By partnering with us, you eliminate the need for expensive AI engineers, hefty API fees, and complex technical roadmaps—reducing your AI development costs by up to 85%. If you're seeking AI Model Training and Fine-Tuning services that prioritize security and cost-efficiency without sacrificing Big Tech fidelity, we'd love to talk to you. Learn more at bottega8.com/swimming.Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies. The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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