
LCIL International Law Centre Podcast
The Lauterpacht Centre for International Law is the scholarly home of International law at the University of Cambridge. The Centre, founded by Sir Elihu Lauterpacht QC in 1983, serves as a forum for the discussion and development of international law and is one of the specialist law centres of the Faculty of Law.
The Centre holds weekly lectures on topical issues of international law by leading practitioners and academics.
For more information see the LCIL website at http://www.lcil.cam.ac.uk/
Latest episodes

Mar 15, 2019 • 59min
Hersch Lauterpacht Memorial Lecture 2019: 'Democracies and International Law: The Trials of Liberalism (Part 2)' - Professor Tom Ginsburg
A series of three lectures by Professor Tom Ginsburg, Leo Spitz Professor of International Law, Ludwig and Hilde Wolf Research Scholar, Professor of Political Science, The University of Chicago Law School.
All lectures are held at the Lauterpacht Centre at 6 pm on Tuesday 12 March, Wednesday 13 March and Thursday 14 March with a Q&A at 1 pm on Friday 15 March (sandwich lunch from 12.30 pm).
Lecture Two: International Law and Democratic Backsliding
We live in an era of democratic erosion, in which the number of democracies has been declining and even long-established democracies are coping with systemic challenges from populism and institutional decay. What, if anything, can international law do about this? This lecture surveys the role of regional institutions in Africa, Latin America and Europe in confronting threats to democracy. The evidence to date is mixed, and we should be modest in our expectations. Nevertheless, I argue that international law can play a more robust role through richer normative frameworks which are emerging.
The Hersch Lauterpacht Memorial Lecture is an annual three-part lecture series given in Cambridge to commemorate the unique contribution to the development of international law of Sir Hersch Lauterpacht. These lectures are given annually by a person of eminence in the field of international law.

Mar 13, 2019 • 1h
Hersch Lauterpacht Memorial Lecture 2019: 'Democracies and International Law: The Trials of Liberalism (Part 1)' - Professor Tom Ginsburg
A series of three lectures by Professor Tom Ginsburg, Leo Spitz Professor of International Law, Ludwig and Hilde Wolf Research Scholar, Professor of Political Science, The University of Chicago Law School.
All lectures are held at the Lauterpacht Centre at 6 pm on Tuesday 12 March, Wednesday 13 March and Thursday 14 March with a Q&A at 1 pm on Friday 15 March (sandwich lunch from 12.30 pm).
Lecture 1: Democracies and International Law
In this lecture, I seek to explore whether and how democracies behave differently than non-democracies in their use of international legal instruments. Understanding this relationship requires returning to some of the foundational assumptions of the literature, especially those associated with liberal theory. Scholars in the 1990s argued that international law among liberal states was qualitatively different from that among illiberal states. This is, as I argue, an empirical question, and the first lecture will go about testing whether liberal states are indeed more likely to cooperate using legal mechanisms. I show that international law in our era is largely produced by and utilized by democratic states, but I go on to argue that liberal theory did not provide a complete theoretical account. Instead I draw on the theory of public goods to develop an explanation for international legal institutions.
The Hersch Lauterpacht Memorial Lecture is an annual three-part lecture series given in Cambridge to commemorate the unique contribution to the development of international law of Sir Hersch Lauterpacht. These lectures are given annually by a person of eminence in the field of international law.

Mar 11, 2019 • 32min
LCIL Friday Lecture: 'What is the WTO Agreement on TBT All About?' by Professor Petros Mavroidis
Lecture summary: The WTO Agreement on TBT (Technical Barriers to Trade) aims at taming NTBs (nontariff barriers), the main instrument segmenting markets nowadays. Some of the terms used in TBT to flesh out the commitments undertaken are borrowed from the GATT, and some originate in the modern regulatory reality as expressed through SDOs (standard-development organizations). The TBT does not share a copy-cat function with the GATT, though. Alas, the WTO Appellate Body, by understanding words as ‘invariances’, e.g., interpreting them out of context (without asking what is the purpose for the TBT?), has not only exported its GATT case law, but also misapplied it into the realm of TBT, and ended up with significant errors. In what follows, we explain why the current approach is erroneous, and advance an alternative understanding, which could help implement the TBT in a manner faithful to its negotiating intent, and objective function.
Petros C. Mavroidis is Edwin Parker Professor of Law at CLS. Acted as chief reporter for the American Law Institute study on International Trade Law: the WTO. His latest major publication is The Regulation of International Trade, MIT Press, 2016.

Mar 4, 2019 • 45min
LCIL Friday Lecture: 'Double Amnesia: Zionism and Human Rights in History and Memory' by Professor James Loeffler
Lecture summary: 2018 marks the seventieth anniversary of two momentous events in twentieth-century history: the birth of the State of Israel and the creation of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Both remain tied together in the ongoing debates about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, global antisemitism, and American foreign policy. Yet the surprising connections between Zionism and the origins of international human rights are completely unknown today. Drawing on his recent book, Professor Loeffler will discuss how the forgotten Jewish past of human rights holds timely lessons for thinking about the intertwined futures of global justice and Jewish politics.
James Loeffler is the Berkowitz Professor of Jewish History at the University of Virginia, where he teaches courses in Jewish, European, and international history and the history of human rights. He received his BA from Harvard and his MA and PhD from Columbia University. He also studied Jewish thought as a Dorot Postgraduate Fellow at the Hebrew University. He is the author of Rooted Cosmopolitans: Jews and Human Rights in the Twentieth Century (Yale, 2018), which was a finalist for the Jewish Book Council’s Natan Prize for Best Jewish Book of 2018. His first book, The Most Musical Nation: Jews and Culture in the Late Russian Empire (Yale, 2010), won eight major awards and honors. Other publications include the forthcoming anthology, The Law of Strangers: Jewish Lawyers and International Law in Historical Perspective (Cambridge, 2019), and the new special issue of the journal Law & Contemporary Problems on “The Future of Human Rights Scholarship.” He is the co-founder of the University of Virginia Human Rights Research Network, Former Dean’s Visiting Scholar at the Georgetown University Law Center, and former Fellow of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. His writing on contemporary Jewish politics, antisemitism, and human rights has appeared in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, Slate, and The New Republic. For ten years he curated a concert series of Jewish classical music at the Kennedy Center in Washington, DC. He is currently at work on two books: a study of how the Holocaust became Genocide, and a biography of the author of “Hava Nagila.”

Feb 25, 2019 • 45min
LCIL Friday Lecture: 'Let's Talk About the Boteros: Law, Memory and the Torture Memos at Berkeley Law' by Prof Laurel Fletcher
Lecture summary: What parts of their uncomfortable histories should universities remember, and how? Recent debates have erupted at institutions of higher learning over their ties to early benefactors who held views antithetical to the values that today’s leading schools espouse. These controversies stir public “memory work” through which learning communities negotiate their relationship to the past. At Berkeley Law, several paintings from Fernando Botero’s Abu Ghraib series controversially adorn a central corridor, reminding viewers of law’s failure to protect against torture in the US War on Terror. The canvasses also serve as a normative rebuke to the Torture Memos which created a new legal framework for interrogation of suspected terrorists after 9/11, and to John Yoo, the Berkeley Law faculty member who wrote them. I argue that the paintings are a form of public memory, a site of communicative interplay between viewers, the paintings, and the debates about the school’s association with Yoo. Understanding the Boteros as public memory places the paintings and the controversy surrounding them into a larger conversation about the responsibility of law schools and educational institutions to inculcate values of respect for human dignity and freedom and to prepare graduates to serve and safeguard these same principles.

Feb 18, 2019 • 39min
LCIL Friday Lecture: 'Instrumental International Criminal Justice' Professor Miles Jackson
Lecture summary: The International Criminal Court is engaged in investigations in a number of situations of ongoing conflict. Recent scholarship and practice has paid attention to the question of whether the threat of prosecution at the international level contributes to the pursuit of domestic trials. Implicit in much of this work is an assumption that contributing to the pursuit of such domestic trials is always a good thing. In this paper, I challenge this assumption. The central argument is that the Office of the Prosecutor at the ICC ought to, in at least some cases, try to use its coercive power and discretion in order to bring about other, non-retributive, ends.
To make that argument, the paper proceeds in four parts. First, on a normative and political level, it argues that the classic tensions between trials and other, incommensurable goods at stake in peace negotiations is as strong as ever, despite conceptual and institutional developments. Second, it looks to literature on compellence theory in international relations, particularly relating to sanctions, and suggests that threats of prosecution and, further along the investigative chain, promises of non-prosecution might be able to contribute to these other, non-retributive, ends. Third, on an institutional level, it argues that although not without risks, the use by the OTP of its discretion in this way is not inconsistent with the Statute and the Court's institutional mandate. Fourth, practically, the paper considers what such an approach would look like in reality, its challenges - both political and bureaucratic - and the difficult issue of prosecutorial accountability. Overall, the aim is to propose an approach that integrates the ICC into an international order that is not, and should not be, concerned primarily with criminal accountability.
Miles Jackson is an Associate Professor of Law at the University of Oxford and a Fellow of Jesus College. He holds MA and DPhil degrees from the University of Oxford, an LLM degree from Harvard Law School, and an LLB from the University of South Africa. His doctoral research, supported by a Rhodes Scholarship, was on complicity in international law and was published by Oxford University Press in 2015. He has published in a range of journals, including the European Journal of International Law, the Oxford Journal of Legal Studies, and the Journal of International Criminal Justice. In 2017, he was awarded the Cassese Prize for International Criminal Law Studies.

Feb 12, 2019 • 42min
LCIL Friday Lecture: 'Some Reflections on Territorial Sovereignty Today' Prof Malcolm Shaw QC
Lecture summary: This talk reflects upon the evolution of territorial sovereignty in international law. Professor Shaw will trace the classic origin and formulation of this key concept and discuss the major challenges to it, from internal threats such as self-determination and secession to external challenges such as the rise of international human rights, international criminal law and international environmental law. What may be concluded as to the balance between globalisation and territorialism today?
Professor Malcolm Shaw QC is a Senior Fellow at the Lauterpacht Centre for International Law and Emeritus Sir Robert Jennings Professor of International Law, University of Leicester.
Author of International Law, 8th ed, 2017 (translated into Chinese, Hungarian, Polish, Portuguese and Turkish); of the 5th edition of Rosenne’s Law and Practice of the International Court of Justice, 2016, and of Title to Territory in Africa, 1986, as well as of many articles in leading journals such as the British Year Book of International Law, the International and Comparative Law Quarterly and the European Journal of International Law.
Lectures delivered include the Hersch Lauterpacht Memorial Lectures in Cambridge (2010); the inaugural General Course on International Law at the Xiamen Academy of International Law, China (2006) and the first Shabtai Rosenne Memorial Lecture in the Peace Palace, Hague (2011).
Former Trustee of the British Institute of International and Comparative Law. Elected Associé of the Institut de Droit International in 2013.
Practising barrister at Essex Court Chambers specializing in public international law.

Feb 4, 2019 • 37min
LCIL Friday Lunchtime lecture: 'Decolonising the International Law Curriculum' Dr Christine Schwöbel-Patel
Dr Christine Schwöbel-Patel is Associate Professor at Warwick Law School, University of Warwick. She previously held positions at the University of Liverpool, Leiden University and Kings' College London.
Christine researches and teaches in international law. Her research focuses on questions of conflict and humanitarianism, mass atrocities and institutions of law, as well as pedagogy. These themes are brought together through a political economy and aesthetics critique.
She is writing a monograph titled 'Marketing Global Justice' which analyses the political economy of global justice projects, to be published with Cambridge University Press in 2019.

Jan 21, 2019 • 40min
LCIL Friday Lecture: 'From Timbuktu to The Hague and Beyond: The War Crime of Intentionally Attacking Cultural Property' by Prof Mark Drumbl
Lecture summary: This essay refracts the ICC’s criminal conviction and reparations order in the Al Mahdi case into the much broader frame of increasingly heated public debates over the protection, removal, defacement, relocation, display, and destruction of cultural heritage in all forms: monuments, artefacts, language instruction, art, and literature. What might the work product of the ICC in the Al Mahdi proceedings – and international criminal law more generally – add, contribute, or excise from these debates? This essay speculatively explores connections between the turn to penal law to protect cultural property and the transformative impulses that undergird transitional justice which, in turn, often insist upon cultural change, including to cultures of oppression and impunity. Along the way, this essay also unpacks thorny questions as to how to value cultural property; how to determine what, exactly, constitutes the kind of property whose destruction should be criminalized; and which ‘cultures’ should be protected by ‘whom’ and in ‘whose’ interests.
Professor Mark A Drumbl is the Class of 1975 Alumni Professor at Washington & Lee University, School of Law, where he also serves as Director of the Transnational Law Institute. He lectures, practices, and publishes widely in the area of international criminal law, post-conflict justice, and public international law. His book, Atrocity, Punishment, and International Law (Cambridge University Press, 2007) has won commendations from the International Association of Criminal Law (U.S. national section) and the American Society of International Law. In 2012, he published Reimagining Child Soldiers in International Law and Policy (Oxford University Press), which has been effusively reviewed and critically acclaimed. He is co-editing the Research Handbook on Child Soldiers (with Dr Jastine Barrett). He has additionally taught at a number of law faculties, including Oxford, Paris, Melbourne, Monash, Ottawa, and the Free University of Amsterdam.

Dec 7, 2018 • 1h 58min
International Law in an Era of Nationalism
Round table discussion: 'International Law in an Era of Nationalism'.
Speakers: Prof John Dugard SC - Doughty Street Chambers; Sir Christopher Greenwood GBE CMG QC; Prof Catherine Barnard - University of Cambridge; Dr Lorand Bartels - University of Cambridge; Dr Sarah Nouwen - LCIL Co-Director.
https://www.lcil.cam.ac.uk/press/events/2018/11/lcil-event-international-law-era-nationalism-round-table-discussion