The Innovation Civilization Podcast

We're joined by tech billionaire and investor Christian Angermayer to discuss the 'Next Human Agenda,' i.e., the technological bets he's taking and how they will shape the future of humanity (in terms of computing, health, society, and governments). Over the past 20 years, Christian has been involved in directly building a lot of unicorns and decacorns and has been involved in more than 50 IPOs or exits in the public stock market. Christian is an active thought leader himself, and is affiliated with the World Economic Forum as a Young Global Leader. He's a partner of the Munich security conference and advisor to President Paul Kagame of Rwanda, and also a founding member of President Macron's scale-up Europe initiative. Christian's family office, Apeiron Investment Group, has more than 3 billion US dollars of assets under management and invests across life sciences, fintech, crypto, future tech, experience, hospitality, and happiness. He runs the Angermayer policy initiative and innovation forum, which convenes international heads of State, investors, politicians, and scientists to come together to discuss global priorities. Christian is also passionate about mental health and runs the Aurora Institute, which is the first nonprofit incubator of its kind focused on funding the world's leading individuals and NGOs related to solving the global mental health crisis.  We cover a wide array of topics: -The Rise of AI and the Future of Society: What will society look like with full AI/AGI adoption, and how can we prepare for it? -Revolutionizing Biotech and Psychedelics: Gain insights into the ground-breaking developments in biotech and psychedelics, exploring their potential to revolutionize healthcare and mental health treatment. -The Middle Eastern Innovation Landscape: Christian shares insights into the burgeoning tech scene in the Middle East, particularly in countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia, where governments are fostering environments conducive to technological advancement and biotech innovation. -⁠Geopolitical Realities and Multipolarity: Reflecting on the evolving geopolitical landscape, Christian discusses the strategic maneuvers of emerging powers like China and Russia, as well as the savvy diplomacy of smaller nations seeking to navigate the complexities of a multipolar world. -Brexit and the Future of Europe: Offering astute observations on Brexit and its implications for the UK and Europe, Christian explores the missed opportunities and potential pitfalls in Britain's departure from the European Union while also reflecting on the broader trajectory of the European project. -Harnessing Innovation for Global Challenges: Christian emphasizes the transformative potential of technological innovation in addressing pressing global challenges, from climate change to economic development, underscoring the importance of agile governance and strategic investment in fostering sustainable solutions. Join us for an illuminating discussion as we explore the dynamics of technological disruption, geopolitical strategy, and the imperative of innovation in shaping the future of our interconnected world. Follow our host, Waheed Nabeel (@iwaheedo), for more updates on tech, civilizational growth, progress studies, and emerging markets. Here are the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp for the episode. (00:00) - Intro (03:20) - What's the vision Christian has of the world 100 years from now? (11:06) - Does the unprecedented speed of technological advancement today, exemplified by OpenAI's rapid user growth, amplify the risk of social dislocation during these transitions, given historical trends of slower adoption? (14:08) - Can AI be perceived as both a catalyst for economic growth and a potential threat to traditional employment, considering its capacity to exponentially increase productivity and revenue, thereby prompting a discussion on the balance between efficiency and human labor? (17:50) - What actionable steps are recommended for individuals who may not be deeply engaged in tech discussions to prepare for the impact of AI and automation on their professions over the next decade, and what role should governments play in facilitating this transition? (22:39) - Use of Psychedelics for mental health problems (39:31) - What is the 'Next Human Agenda'? (47:47) - What breakthroughs can we expect in longevity research funding, and can we foresee substantial increases in human lifespan in the near future? (52:25) - How does the concept of biological age influence Christian's research, especially in relation to the lifestyles of centenarians in blue zones, and what implications does this have for longevity strategies? (56:51) - In the face of rapid technological disruption, what role do governments in the 21st century play? (60:22) - How can we address the short-term focus of politicians, especially in democracies, to ensure effective long-term planning for the future? (64:24) - How can we manage increasing debt in Western countries amidst the challenge of implementing unpopular but crucial policies for long-term fiscal stability? (67:27) -  Less government intervention, like libertarians versus more regulation, as seen in Europe's approach to innovation? (69:00) - Do you think pharmaceutical innovation has been slowed by regulation compared to the faster progress seen in less regulated fields like computer science? (74:13) - Are there any government models you've encountered that effectively balance stability with the disruptive nature of technology, ensuring stable infrastructure alongside technological progress? (77:26) - Do you support the idea of city-states as a governance model reminiscent of the early United States, where states held significant governance roles, and do you see the potential for a revival of this approach? (81:12) - How can governments adopt lean methodologies for faster decision-making? (83:05) - Is there a burgeoning innovation hub in the Middle East, separate from Europe and the US, particularly considering your operations in emerging market countries like the UAE and Rwanda? (85:18) - Does Christian see a move towards a multipolar world, with rising powers like China and Russia challenging US dominance, and how do you view the strategic actions of smaller nations navigating this shift? (87:10) - What are Christian's thoughts on the trajectory of the European project, especially with the UK's exit from the EU and the challenges it poses, such as demographic aging and its impact on the tech landscape? (90:28) - What fuels Christian's optimism amidst the prevailing dystopian views, leading you to believe that technology and innovation will be our salvation rather than our downfall?

In this insightful discussion, Mike O'Sullivan, author of 'The Levelling' and CEO of Harvest Innovation Advisory, shares his expertise on the decline of globalization and its repercussions on democracy and the economy. He critically assesses economic dependencies and the role of international institutions like the IMF in managing financial crises. The conversation touches on the importance of innovation, education, and the impact of technology on societal cohesion. O'Sullivan also highlights the need for new political structures to navigate the complexities of our changing world.

America's foremost foreign policy scholar Joseph Nye discusses the American Century, soft power, nuclear non-proliferation, rise of Asia, U.S. foreign policy challenges, and contemporary wars. Accompanied by UK civil servant Jon Cayzer, they dive into historical analogies, US-China relations, Russia's war in Ukraine, and trust in the digital age.

Dr. Padraig Carmody, a Trinity College professor and author on African economic development, shares insights from his research on the historical and contemporary 'scrambles' for Africa. Alongside Jon Cayzer, a seasoned British civil servant, they discuss the significant impacts of colonial legacies on modern African economies. The conversation includes China's growing influence through the Belt and Road Initiative, the challenges faced by landlocked nations, and the potential for Africa to reshape global economic dynamics. They also emphasize the importance of community-driven approaches to future development.

Dr. Christian De Vartavan, an Egyptologist and a leading expert in blockchain and AI, shares his fascinating journey from ancient pyramids to cutting-edge technologies. He reveals the striking parallels between ancient engineering and modern innovations. The discussion also covers the transformative impact of blockchain on global society, regulatory challenges, and the importance of standards in technology. Christian reflects on his family's legacy of advising influential leaders, connecting the wisdom of the past with contemporary technological advancements.

In this episode, we sat down with Professor Dr. Salim Ayduz, a distinguished expert in Ottoman science and technology delving into the rich tapestry of technical innovations that helped create the Ottoman Empire's 600+ year tri-continental legacy.   In the episode, we cover:   -the forgotten pioneers of Ottoman science & technology -the social, political, and economic dynamics that influenced Ottoman innovation -comparative analysis of Ottoman and Western scientific and technological progress -challenges the empire faced in keeping pace with the changing world   Tune in to this enlightening episode that reveals the hidden chapters of Ottoman innovation, while also shedding new light on the challenges the empire faced as it navigated the currents of change across the centuries.   Follow our host Waheed Rahman (@iwaheedo), for more updates on tech, civilizational growth, progress studies, and emerging markets.   Here are the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp for the episode.   (00:00) - Intro   (02:15) - Professor Salim's background   (04:10) - Origin of the Ottoman Empire and why there is a lack of information on the Ottoman innovation landscape?   (11:44) - What is the Professor's research methodology when it comes to consuming knowledge and researching Ottoman innovation and inventions?   (15:35) - Ottoman's contribution to astronomy and astrology   (26:35) - Ottoman's contribution to mathematics   (31:45) - The inception and mass adoption of gunpowder and cannons in the Ottoman era   (36:11) - Notable innovations and inventions during the Ottoman period   (43:59) - The socio-political dynamics that influenced the decline of Ottoman contribution to science and technology   (50:49) - Challenges the empire faced in keeping pace with the changing world   (57:20) - Classical books reading recommendation by Professor on Ottoman innovation   (59:00) - Outro  

On this episode, we're joined by serial entrepreneur and CEO of Manna Bobby Healy (@realBobbyHealy) who runs one of the Top 5 drone delivery companies in the world. We also welcomed back a friend of the pod Pamir Sevincel, Partner at Blackbird. Join us as we talk about the ins and outs of a fundamental technology that'll terraform the way we live: last-mile drone delivery. In this episode, we cover: -Bobby's entrepreneurial journey and the lessons learned along the way -The genesis of Manna and the vision for drone-powered deliveries -The environmental impact of replacing traditional delivery vehicles with drones - Business models and venture funding landscape: current, future and past. - Advice to founders building hardware-heavy companies -The challenges and opportunities in the emerging drone delivery industry -The future of on-demand delivery and its potential to reshape urban living Follow our host Waheed Rahman (@iwaheedo), for more updates on tech, civilizational growth, progress studies, and emerging markets. Here are the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp for the episode.  (00:00) - Intro (02:25) - Bobby's journey to leading several successful startups (03:16) - What is Manna Aero? (07:50) - Use case of drone delivery for E-commerce businesses (15:04) - Replacing traditional delivery vehicles with drones? (20:00) - How feasible is drone delivery in rural/suburban areas? (22:21) - Economic impact on suburban drone delivery (26:01) - Challenges in the delivery drone industry (33:12) - What factors make places like Texas particularly appealing for startups and investors in the consumer business sector? What should be the focus of startups in the drone delivery space: profitability or scalability? (40:02) - Can AI-generated models help optimize drone delivery services? (52:56) - Future of on-demand delivery and the impending challenges (65:12) - Competitive Advantage and Unique Value Proposition of Manna (67:48) - Quick Fire Round

In this discussion, Taavi Roivas, the Former Prime Minister of Estonia and tech entrepreneur, shares insights on the intersection of technology and politics. He explores how to run governments like startups and the implications of AI and cryptocurrencies on democracy. Roivas also discusses Estonia's pioneering role in e-governance, the challenges of tech on societies, and encourages youth to shape a transformative future. His take on balancing innovation with stability provides a thought-provoking perspective on global trends.

In this episode, we're joined by one of the founding faculties of Stanford's technology ethics course. Professor Rob Reich is the author of the recently published book "System Error: Where Big Tech Went Wrong & How We Can Reboot." In the face of society-altering AI and advancing technologies, we confront pressing ethical and societal challenges. How do we address them effectively without letting technology wreak havoc? In the episode, we discuss: -how technology is reshaping our society -the problem with the efficiency and optimization-only mindset -the ethical and social impact of the digital technologies -the problems with big tech -is democracy fit for purpose in the age of tech Join us as we analyze the critical challenges faced by the digital society and present thought-frameworks for a feasible system reboot.   Follow our host Waheed Rahman (@iwaheedo), for more updates on tech, civilizational growth, progress studies, and emerging markets. Here are the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp for the episode.  (00:00)- Intro (03:31)- Origin story of the book -"System Error: Where Big Tech Went Wrong & How We Can Reboot." (05:17)- Does the specialization of knowledge witnessed in the past 2 centuries contribute more to our advancement or impede it? (09:56)- Is optimization bad for us? (13:23)- Is "stakeholder capitalism" the only way forward (14:26)- Is our current form of democracy optimized sufficiently to guide us towards the right conclusions amidst the rapid acceleration of technological advancements? (19:08)- Is sacrificing short-term prosperity for long-term stability and collective success worthwhile for societies pursuing lasting progress? (20:26)- How can we ensure that our institutions are adept at crafting agile regulations that can effectively address the evolving landscape of technology? (27:01)- How to strike a balance between implementing essential guardrails and the potential risk of losing innovation and economic benefits to jurisdictions with more permissive regulations? (30:32)- What are the limitations and potential drawbacks of relying solely on experts and dismissing the input and perspectives of the general public on important issues? (32:50)- How can we navigate towards a more balanced approach that incorporates stakeholder capitalism? (38:02)- How to assess the ongoing exploration and search for effective governance and cap table structures that successfully balance social impact and economic incentives? (39:00)- What is the problem with Big Tech? (41:25)- Outro

Centuries before the official Renaissance of Europe began as we deem it, there was a part of Europe (i.e. Muslim Spain) which already begun the 'Renaissance' and made the region a powerhouse of innovation and prosperity that would go on to shape the world we live in today. A tale of technical innovations, pluralistic cohabiting of various religions, and translation of ideas that formed our modern universities/libraries today. We uncover a part of history that is often overlooked; our host Waheed Rahman (@iwaheedo), delves into the 700-year Muslim rule in Spain - or Al-Andalus as it was called. He is joined by Dr. Elizabeth Drayson, Emeritus Fellow and Senior Lecturer at the University of Cambridge and author of four books on medieval Spanish history who takes us on a journey through the incredible scientific, cultural, economic, and diplomatic innovations that emerged during this time. In the episode we cover,  -the rise of Muslim rule in Spain -the development of science (astronomy, mathematics, agriculture, & medicine, etc.) in Muslim Spain that laid the foundations for all modern innovation and inventions - Jewish-Muslim-Christian cohabitation and relations in Muslim Spain. - The 'Golden Age for the Jews' and the tale of Jewish Viziers (Prime ministers) of Islamic emirates - The Arabic-to-Latin translation movement  - Lessons from 'Convivencia'  for the contemporary world  Join us as we uncover the hidden gems of history and showcase the incredible innovations that have shaped our world today. Follow our host Waheed Rahman (@iwaheedo), for more updates on tech, civilizational growth, progress studies, and emerging markets. Here are the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp for the episode.  (00:00) - Intro (03:15) - The emergence of Islamic Spain or Al-Andalus (06:07) - The historical significance of the region (07:49) - Exchange of Knowledge: Golden age of Jews under Muslims (16:28) - The contribution of Islamic Spain to modern technologies in the fields of scientific development, innovation, politics, & Governance (25:27) - Knowledge transfer: Importance of the Translation Movement (34:01) - What were some of the shortcomings or failures of Islamic rule in Spain, and how did they impact its legacy and relevance in modern times? (38:31) - How can we apply the lessons of historical collaboration and coexistence between different peoples and faiths to address contemporary conflicts and tensions in the world? (40:58) - Outro