

RTP's Fourth Branch Podcast
The Federalist Society
The Regulatory Transparency Project is a nonprofit, nonpartisan effort dedicated to fostering discussion and a better understanding of regulatory policies. On RTP’s Fourth Branch Podcast, leading experts discuss the pros and cons of government regulations and explain how they affect everyday life for Americans.
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Aug 29, 2019 • 26min
Tech Roundup 1 – The Brave New World of Deep Fakes
In this inaugural Tech Roundup podcast, experts discuss various questions raised by "deep fake" technology, in which machine learning algorithms are used to create synthetic videos and photos. What are the potential societal and political implications of their emergence? What challenges might they present to regulators?Join Professor Robert Chesney (co-author of "Deep Fakes: A Looming Challenge for Privacy, Democracy, and National Security"), Matthew Feeney, and Will Rinehart as they explore the implications of this emerging technology.Featuring:- Robert M. Chesney, James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs and Associate Dean for Academic Affairs, The University of Texas at Austin School of Law- Matthew Feeney, Director, Project on Emerging Technologies, Cato Institute- [Moderator] Will Rinehart, Director of Technology and Innovation Policy, American Action ForumVisit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Aug 26, 2019 • 15min
Explainer 2 – The Dynamex Decision and its Implications for Independent Contractors
In 2018, the California Superior Court announced a new test for determining whether a worker is an employee or an independent contractor. In this Explainer podcast episode, Luke Wake of the National Federation of Independent Businesses breaks down the case and its implications for small business owners in California.Featuring:- Luke Wake, Senior Staff Attorney, NFIB Small Business Legal CenterVisit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Aug 22, 2019 • 37min
Explainer 1 – The Green New Deal
In this inaugural episode of the Regulatory Transparency Project's Explainer podcast series, Ann Carlson and James Coleman discuss the merits and implications of the Green New Deal. What is the Green New Deal, what are its aims, and how might it achieve them? Is the proposal realistic? How does it compare to landmark pieces of environmental legislation from the past decades?These and other questions are explored in this short podcast.Featuring:- Ann Carlson, Shirley Shapiro Professor of Environmental Law and Faculty Co-Director of the Emmett Institute on Climate Change and the Environment, UCLA School of Law- James Coleman, Associate Professor of Law, Southern Methodist University Dedman School of LawVisit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Jul 26, 2019 • 22min
Deep Dive 66 – Americans with Disabilities Act Litigation Enters a New Frontier – Websites
Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act requires public accommodations be accessible to the disabled community. Since its enactment in 1991, it has been understood that any store, restaurant, theater, hotel facility, school, or other building private entities own or lease and make available to the public meet certain requirements for disability access.Plaintiffs attorneys have been aggressive in enforcing the ADA against all types of physical businesses for years. And now we are seeing a new frontier of litigation - websites. Banks, hotels, service providers, and retailers of all types are beginning to see lawsuits alleging their websites are not accessible to the disabled.Karen Harned will provide the background on this new trend in ADA litigation, the current state of the law, and highlight a case the Supreme Court is being asked to take this next term on the issue.Featuring:- Karen Harned, Executive Director, National Federation of Independent Business Small Business Legal CenterVisit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Jul 23, 2019 • 1h 2min
Deep Dive Episode 65 – Subdelegations of Rulemaking Power and the Appointments Clause
The strictures of the Appointments Clause are receiving renewed attention in the courts, including the Supreme Court. A year ago, the High Court ruled that the SEC’s administrative law judges must be appointed in conformity with this clause, and it has placed another Appointments Clause case on the docket for its next term. In Buckley v. Valeo (1976), the Court held that rulemaking was a significant government power such that rulemakers must be appointed in conformity with the Clause, but it had no reason to address whether rules must be issued by principal officers or could also be issued by inferior officers.On behalf of nine vaping retailers, Pacific Legal Foundation is challenging the FDA’s "Deeming Rule" issued by a career employee, Leslie Kux. A new research study of HHS rules over a 17-year period, also by PLF, found that nearly two-thirds of HHS regulations were issued by non-Senate-confirmed staff. Within FDA, 98% of its rules (1,860 of them) were issued by civil service employees in career positions like that held by Ms. Kux. In the pending litigation, FDA argues that Ms. Kux was also an inferior officer when she issued rules, and that inferior officers may lawfully issue such binding rules, even if no supervisor may subsequently change them without a new rulemaking process.The speakers examine a variety of topics related to the subdelegation of rulemaking power, including the creation of offices by department heads and who within those offices can lawfully exercise rulemaking power.Featuring:Todd F. Gaziano, Chief of Legal Policy and Strategic Research and Director, Center for the Separation of Powers, Pacific Legal FoundationProf. Anne Joseph O'Connell, Adelbert H. Sweet Professor of Law, Stanford Law School[Moderator] Prof. Kristin E. Hickman, Distinguished McKnight University Professor and Harlan Albert Rogers Professor in Law, University of Minnesota Law SchoolVisit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Jul 16, 2019 • 1h 4min
Deep Dive Episode 64 – The Federal Reserve and Real-Time Payment Systems
The Federal Reserve plays a central role in the nation’s payment systems. Reserve banks keep currency in circulation to meet demand, provide check collection services to banks, operate payment systems, and provide financial services to the United States government and foreign institutions. The Federal Reserve is currently exploring ways to support faster payments in the U.S. The potential actions would facilitate real-time interbank settlement of faster payments. Proponents feel the actions may assist smaller banks and credit unions to service local communities, while detractors raise concerns about interoperability, the ability to exchange messages among different instant-payment systems, and other issues. This teleforum will address these topics and much more. Featuring: Aaron Klein, Fellow in Economic Studies and Policy Director, Center on Regulation and Markets, Brookings Institution George Selgin, Senior Fellow and Director, Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives, Cato Institute [Moderator] J.W. Verret, Associate Professor of Law, Antonin Scalia Law School, George Mason University Visit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Jul 10, 2019 • 1h 24min
Deep Dive 63 – Agency Rulemaking: Unnecessary Delegation or Indispensable Assistance?
On June 18, 2019, the Federalist Society's Article I Initiative and Regulatory Transparency Project hosted a panel on "Agency Rulemaking: Unnecessary Delegation or Indispensable Assistance?" at the National Press Club in Washington, DC.In his recent article, “Strategic Institutional Positioning: How We Have Come to Generate Environmental Law Without Congress,” published in the Texas A&M Law Review, Donald Kochan lays out the argument that delegation of authority to agencies serves the interests of both sides of Congress. Those ostensibly elected to oppose further regulation can argue that any proposed rule changes are out of their control. Conversely, representatives elected to increase regulation can blame agency heads for not following the intent of the authorizing statute. However, both sides avoid blame by the electorate.What are the advantages and disadvantages of such a system? Should specialized bureaucrats do the lion’s share of rulemaking? Or should elected Senators and Congressman, often without the same level of expertise, write the rules that govern our nation?Featuring:- Andrew Grossman, Partner, Baker & Hostetler LLP and Adjunct Scholar, The Cato Institute- Prof. Donald Kochan, Professor in Law and the Associate Dean for Research & Faculty Development, Chapman University Dale E. Fowler School of Law- Prof. Robert Percival, Professor of Law and Director, Environmental Law Program, University of Maryland School of Law- Brianne Gorod, Chief Counsel, Constitutional Accountability Center- [Moderator] Jeff Holmstead, Partner, Bracewell LLPVisit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Jul 3, 2019 • 59min
Deep Dive 62 – An Update on Kisor v. Wilkie
Last week the Supreme Court decided the much-anticipated Kisor v. Wilkie case. The Court had granted certiorari in Kisor to decide whether to overrule Bowles v. Seminole Rock & Sand Co., 325 U.S. 410 (1945), and Auer v. Robbins, 519 U.S. 452 (1997). Seminole Rock and Auer are often cited for the proposition that when an administrative agency promulgates a regulation and the regulation is ambiguous, a reviewing court must give “controlling weight” to the agency’s interpretation of the regulation unless the interpretation is plainly erroneous or is inconsistent with the regulation. A number of the Court’s members had cast doubt on the soundness of the Seminole Rock/Auer deference doctrine in recent years, and many observers have predicted that the doctrine’s days are numbered.Karen Harned and Stephen Vaden discuss that morning’s highly-fractured decision in Kisor and its potential implications — including for the Chevron deference doctrine that applies to agency interpretations of statutory provisions.Featuring:- Karen Harned, Executive Director, NFIB Small Business Legal Center- Stephen Vaden, General Counsel, United States Department of AgricultureVisit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Jun 28, 2019 • 36min
Deep Dive 61 – Gundy v. United States: Revisiting the Nondelegation Doctrine, or Not?
The U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Gundy v. United States disappointed some observers who were hoping that the Court would use the case to reinvigorate the nondelegation doctrine. Will the 4-1-3 decision here leave the status quo intact or embolden lower courts to identify more nondelegation problems? Will Congress view this outcome as an invitation to delegate more decisions about the scope of the criminal law to the Attorney General? Do Justice Alito’s concurrence and the strong dissent from Justice Gorsuch (joined by The Chief Justice and Justice Thomas) signal that the nondelegation doctrine will soon be revived? These and other questions are discussed in this podcast.Featuring: - Mark Chenoweth, Executive Director and General Counsel, New Civil Liberties AllianceVisit our website – https://RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.

Jun 25, 2019 • 56min
Deep Dive 60 – Juliana v. United States
On June 4, 2019, a Ninth Circuit panel heard oral argument in a high-profile interlocutory appeal in Juliana v. United States, regarding whether the U.S. Constitution gives rise to cognizable constitutional and federal common law claims against the Executive Branch for actions alleged to cause or contribute to climate change.The Juliana plaintiffs – most of whom were minor children when the suit was filed in 2015 – argue, inter alia, that the federal government has violated their fundamental right to a stable climate grounded in the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses of the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. The plaintiffs also argue that the government has breached its duty to hold the atmosphere in trust under federal common law principles. The federal government argues that the plaintiffs lack standing; that the case is not justiciable in any federal court under Article III of the U.S. Constitution; that the plaintiffs’ claims were not properly brought pursuant to the Administrative Procedure Act; and that the plaintiffs have failed to state a claim on the merits upon which relief can be granted.Featuring:- James R. May, Distinguished Professor of Law, Widener University Delaware Law School- Damien M. Schiff, Senior Attorney, Pacific Legal Foundation- [Moderator] Jonathan H. Adler, Johan Verheij Memorial Professor of Law; Director, Coleman P. Burke Center for Environmental Law, Case Western Reserve University School of LawVisit our website – RegProject.org – to learn more, view all of our content, and connect with us on social media.


