Tech Leader Talk

I first became familiar with my guest today when I heard her on another podcast a couple of years ago and her message resonated with me. Farnoosh Brock takes a unique approach to selling in her book The Serving Mindset: Stop Selling and Grow Your Business. Farnoosh went from being an electrical engineer and leader at a fortune 100 company to being a coach, speaker, author, and trainer. She believes in the power of changing our conversations from selling to serving. Farnoosh noticed over time as an electrical engineer that even though she was good at her job, she didn't get much enjoyment or fulfillment out of her position. She realized that she wanted to work with people and build relationships, and she also realized that she didn't want to work for anyone and instead wanted to be an entrepreneur. She shares how her serving mindset developed and how she now believes that you do not need to sell to push an agenda, that you can set selling aside to build truly meaningful relationships with clients, relationships that will build your reputation and result in repeat clients. She suggests that even though the traditional selling mindset works, serving rather than selling actually leads to way more profit and also that it's important to only do business with people who are a fit for you and you for them. Stressing how important that it is to adopt the serving mindset over the selling mindset, especially now as we are hopefully soon coming out of the COVID-19 pandemic, Farnoosh advises leaders to not just be leaders in title but also in action and to value people, whether they be clients or people who work for us. Please reach out to Farnoosh via the various methods that she provides, and remember to subscribe to Tech Leader Talk so that you never miss an episode! Time Stamps [0:07] – Steve introduces this episode's guest – Farnoosh Brock. [2:01] – Farnoosh provides us with some background information about herself, such as how she started as an electrical engineer. [4:52] – Farnoosh explains how she moved through many different roles before realizing that she wasn't being challenged and therefore decided to work for herself. [6:57] – Steve and Farnoosh discuss the misconception that when you switch to a different department after working in engineering, you lose the engineering knowledge. [9:00] – Farnoosh explains what she means by serving rather than selling. [12:02] – Farnoosh explains why having a serving mindset rather than a selling mindset is a competitive advantage. [13:50] – Farnoosh advises us on what to do if a traditional selling mindset seems to be working for us. [16:23] – Steve and Farnoosh discuss how a serving mindset means building more meaningful relationships. [19:10] – Farnoosh suggests how an introverted person might go about fostering a serving mindset. [21:35] – Farnoosh lists potential outcomes of companies adopting a serving mindset over a selling mindset, such as noticing and observing a more positive response from prospective clients. [24:41] – Steve and Farnoosh discuss how the serving mindset will help businesses coming out of the COVID-19 pandemic such as the importance of acting as leaders. [28:08] – Farnoosh announces some current projects, such as remote corporate training. [29:29] – We learn how we can reach Farnoosh online. Links and Resources Farnoosh Brock – The Serving Mindset: Stop Selling and Grow Your Business Farnoosh's Website Prolific Living - Website Farnoosh's LinkedIn Profile Steve Sponseller - Website Steve Sponseller – Cracking the Patent Code

Join me as I talk to Lomit Patel (author of the book Lean AI: How Innovative Startups Use Artificial Intelligence to Grow, startup advisor, public speaker, and Vice President of Growth at IMVU) in this episode of the Tech Leader Talk podcast as he discusses how he got involved in the world of technology and came to work with IMVU. Lomit discusses how he was fascinated with the opportunity to work on products and services that had the potential to have huge impacts on how people live across the world. This positive outlook on technology has, in fact, stayed with Lomit for a long while, as he predicts that, with it always changing, technology is going to continue to be a means to solve problems and find better solutions to problems. The effort to have put forth a COVID-19 vaccine, as he points out, is a perfect example of this. Lomit discusses the rise of artificial intelligence and its impacts on humanity, reveals what motivated and inspired him to write his new book Lean AI, and also makes predictions about what trends will likely impact artificial intelligence and technology over the next several years, declaring for example that people will rely more heavily on things being digital, especially as a result of the current COVID-19 pandemic playing a role. Noting that only 5% of startup companies see success, he offers some tips and advice, suggesting using money as efficiently as possible so that you don't run out, being focused on one or two channels rather than diversifying, and changing up how revenue is generated. Please reach out to Lomit via the various methods that he suggests, and remember to subscribe to Tech Leader Talk so that you never miss an episode! Time Stamps [0:07] – Steve introduces this episode's guest - Lomit Patel, Vice President of Growth at IMVU – and gives some of his background information. [1:27] – Lomit further explains his background and how he got to where he is today at IMVU. [4:27] – Lomit predicts what trends will impact artificial intelligence and technology in general over the next several years, such as artificial intelligence being more fully embraced. [7:39] – Steve and Lomit discuss the data that companies get from customers interacting with them. [10:34] – Lomit comments on common lessons that he has learned throughout the various companies for which he has worked, stressing the importance of focusing on the customers and being data driven. [12:50] – Lomit adds that it's also important, especially with startups, to attract smart people with experience. [14:26] – Lomit predicts that technology will continue to enact positive change, providing the COVID-19 vaccine as an example. [16:53] – Lomit further predicts that the future will see us living hybrid lives that will be part virtual. [18:18] – Lomit talks about the positives and negatives of artificial intelligence. [20:05] – We learn what motivated Lomit to write his book Lean AI. [23:47] – Lomit shares two tips for startups, to focus on one or two channels rather than diversify and to vary how revenue is generated. [26:14] – We discover what's ahead for Lomit and his team in the near future, such as COVID-19 leading to an increase in technology because of people being in shelter-in-place and looking to escape. [28:07] – Lomit shares how we can connect with him online. Links and Resources Lomit Patel – Lean AI: How Innovative Startups Use Artificial Intelligence to Grow Eric Ries – The Lean Startup: How Today's Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses Lomit's LinkedIn Page Lomit's Blog Steve Sponseller - Website Steve Sponseller – Cracking the Patent Code

Jerry Abiog of Standard Insights joins me in this episode as we discuss the need for digitization in the world of technology, especially now during the COVID-19 pandemic. Jerry helps develop artificial intelligence for companies, especially for restaurants, and he even helped develop digital menus driven by artificial intelligence for companies, which was temporarily shelved until the pandemic increased the need for it. Jerry predicts that that need for digitization is not going away in the future and that it will, in fact, continue to rise, something that more and more companies need to recognize and act on if they want to stay in business. He stresses the importance of companies putting the customers first before all else and listening to what they have to say, be it positive or negative feedback. He also advises us that it's important for us to learn to be personally and professionally uncomfortable because that discomfort leads to growth. Jerry also discusses his hopes and fears regarding the future and what his future plans are for Standard Insights, hoping to expand what they do for restaurants. Feel free to reach out to him via one of the several contact methods that he provides, and remember to subscribe to Tech Leader Talk so that you never miss an episode! Time Stamps [0:07] – Steve introduces this episode's guest, Jerry Abiog, and gives us some of his credentials. [1:05] – Jerry further details his background, such as how he has twenty-five years of experience in sales and marketing. [3:43] – Jerry predicts what kinds of impacts artificial intelligence is going to have over the next few years, talking about how COVID has called for more digitization. [5:47] – Jerry stresses the importance of listening to your customers. [7:30] – We learn that Jerry did some research in advance to get an idea of what would bring in customers. [9:33] – Jerry discusses his fears regarding the future of technology, giving Blockbuster as an example of a company that came to an end because it didn't get on board with new technology. [11:21] – Jerry makes predictions about what restaurants are going to have to do to stay afloat in the current COVID-19 pandemic, such as using contactless menus. [13:36] – Jerry explains that concessions at ball games eventually won't accept cash as a form of payment and theorizes why that is. [15:23] – We learn how Jerry comes up with innovating ideas that sets his company apart. [16:25] – Jerry looks toward the future, hoping that people will use difficult times like this pandemic as opportunities to learn and grow. [17:59] – Jerry reiterates the crucial importance of listening to customers and their feedback. [20:23] – Jerry and Steve agree that getting a sale is just the first step because you want your customer to be happy so that they'll come back to you. [21:15] – Jerry offers some tips, such as learning to be personally and professionally uncomfortable because that's when you grow. [23:58] – Jerry shares how he and his company are looking to expand in the restaurant space. [25:53] – We discover where online we can find and get in touch with Jerry. Links and Resources Standard Insights - Website Jerry's LinkedIn Page Malcolm Gladwell – The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference iorder.menu - Website Jerry's Email Address - jerry@standardinsights.io Steve Sponseller - Website Steve Sponseller – Cracking the Patent Code

If you are a business leader in need of learning technology jargon, then Tech Speak for Entrepreneurs might just be for you! Join me as I interview Nelly Yusupova, the founder of Tech Speak, in this episode of Tech Leader Talk as she shares how she got involved in the technology world, initially believing that computer science would merely teach her how to use Word and Excel more efficiently (which, of course, led to a big surprise in store for her). She reflects on having become a C.T.O. at a very young age through Webgrrls International which gave her invaluable experience in sales and business development. Nelly also discusses how advanced technology has made a lot of things easier for this generation's entrepreneurs compared to her own experience back in the '90s, a trend that isn't going away any time soon. In fact, the mission behind Tech Speak for Entrepreneurs is to help business leaders become more technology literate because, as she predicts, every company will be a tech company within the next couple of years because technology, no matter what your company brands, is no longer going to be optional. Artificial intelligence, as she projects, will even become easier and easier for people to implement even if they don't have backgrounds in STEM. Nelly also shares important advice with us aside from learning tech jargon – such as never taking more than three months to release your first idea due to the importance of customer feedback, learning early and often from what might otherwise be seen as failures, and how important that it is to be communicative. Communication, in fact, is, in her opinion, the most important trait for a tech leader to have. Nelly even recommends a couple of books to us and shares how we can get in touch with her online. Be sure to check out her resources, and remember to subscribe to Tech Leader Talk so that you never miss an episode! Time Stamps [0:07] – Steve introduces this episode's guest, Nelly Yusupova, to the podcast. [0:38] – Nelly details how she got involved in the world of technology, such as how she studied computer science and joined Webgrrls International. [2:03] – Nelly explains how she came to hear troubling stories of entrepreneurs losing thousands of dollars because of technology mistakes and how that led to her creating Tech Speak for Entrepreneurs. [3:03] - We learn about the benefits of taking advantage of Tech Speak's resources. [4:59] – Nelly offers three real-world examples from her own experience of the types of companies that could benefit from Tech Speak – a yoga instructor, a realtor, and a social media consultant. [7:34] – We are offered advice from Nelly regarding looking for opportunities – to look for and understand problems and to ensure that we understand how to manage developers efficiently so that we don't waste money. [8:30] – Nelly stresses the importance of becoming technology literate which is what Tech Speak does for people. [10:22] – Nelly argues that it's important to learn early and learn often, recommending Eric Ries' book The Lean Startup. [11:50] – Steve and Nelly comment on how customer feedback comes into play. [13:28] – Nelly clarifies that, via Tech Speak, she teaches people how to implement the speedy process that she advises, even people who are not fluent in technology jargon. [15:47] – Nelly projects toward the future, predicting that artificial intelligence will be heavily incorporated into the world of technology over the next couple of years. [19:01] – Nelly posits that effective communication is the most important skill for a technical leader to have. [20:08] – Nelly provides tips to company leaders looking to grow or add software, reiterating the importance of becoming tech literate. [22:17] – Nelly advises that something like Tech Speak would be a good starting point for someone looking to become more fluent in tech jargon. [23:45] – Nelly credits the book Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products as the best book that she has read within the last year. [24:48] – We discover what Nelly has planned for 2021, such as opening up global opportunities for Tech Speak due to having to go remote because of the COVID-19 pandemic. [27:11] – Nelly suggests where to go online to get in touch with her. Links and Resources Eric Ries – The Lean Startup CopyAI Eyal Nir – Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products Tech Speak for Entrepreneurs – Website Digital Woman – Website Nelly's Twitter Page Nelly's Instagram Page Steve Sponseller - Website Steve Sponseller – Cracking the Patent Code

Aman Agarwal, founder and president of Sanpram Transnational (an executive education company), joins me in this episode of Tech Leader Talk to discuss how he got into the world of technology and kickstarted Sanpram. Aman, a former engineer and passionate teacher and writer, has a degree in engineering and started in sales, eventually moving his way up to bigger companies. Because of a troubling knowledge gap and cultural gap that he observed in the technology world, Aman started Sanpram Transnational, which seeks to close that gap by educating business leaders in technological matters. Aman also shares with us what trends he thinks will have the biggest impacts on the technology world over the next couple of years, such as remote work resulting in more diversity in the workforce developing. In his opinion, business leaders in the technology world need to make sure that the need to work remotely is not detrimental to humanity, and they ought to focus on the pros of remote work and work on improving upon the cons. Aman is also of the mindset that it is very important in his business to be confident in yourself and to also be realistic. He offers tips such as surrounding yourself with people who are willing to share their knowledge and expertise (people who have what he refers to as the "heart of a teacher"), having empathy, and putting business first and technology second. He reflects on his hopes for the future (such as good education being at a lower cost), and he even fills us in on his favorite book from the last year! Be sure to check Sanpram out over at their website, and also be sure to subscribe to Tech Leader Talk so that you never miss an episode! Time Stamps [0:07] – Steve introduces this episode's guest, Aman Agarwal, and briefly explains his credentials and his background. [1:02] – Aman provides us with more details about his background such as how he has a degree in engineering and started in sales. [2:38] – We learn what Aman does today with Sanpram Transnational, also giving us the backstory of how he started with them. [5:45] – Aman discusses what trends he expects will impact the world of technology over the next couple of years. [7:07] – Aman explains what he thinks business leaders need to be considering with a more distributed workforce, such as maintaining high quality connection between people even when it's virtual. [8:35] – Steve adds his own insight to the conversation, suggesting that we make the most of virtual communication. [10:26] – Aman reflects upon what he believes makes a tech leader successful, namely high self-esteem. [13:27] – Steve comments on the importance of knowing one's target audience. [14:19] – Aman advises us on what we should do if we're looking to start learning the new approach to communication, starting with surrounding ourselves with people who want to share their knowledge. [16:43] – Aman offers a second piece of advice – having what he calls tactical empathy. [19:02] – Aman looks forward to the future of technology, reflecting, for example, on high quality education becoming more affordable. [21:56] – Aman shares the most important lesson that he has learned – putting business before technology. [23:51] – Aman enthusiastically credits Phil Knight's Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike as his favorite book from the last year. [25:12] – We discover what's ahead for Aman and Sanpram in the near future, like how Aman is currently writing a book. Links and Resources Phil Knight – Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike Sanpram Transnational – Website Aman's LinkedIn Page Steve Sponseller - Website Steve Sponseller – Cracking the Patent Code

This is a special episode of Tech Leader Talk because this episode officially makes the podcast an international podcast! For the first time, I welcome a guest who lives overseas – Sean G. Muller of New Zealand! Sean, although originally from the United States, currently works what he identifies as his dream job for IBM in New Zealand. Sean's background is in network engineering and network architecture and describes his experience entering the world of technology as having fallen into the role rather than having taken an academic path. Having taken a part-time job at Ericsson Telecommunications National Headquarters in Richardson, Texas (before, of course, moving to New Zealand where he is currently), technology sort of unexpectedly became his career. Sean and I discuss everything from how 9/11 impacted a lot of people (including himself) in the technology industry by leaving them out of work, the importance of culture and effective leadership in a company, how the current COVID-19 pandemic has impacted technology and technology companies, how Sean expects the world of technology to change over the next couple of years and what he worries most about regarding the future of technology, and so much more. He also shares with us the story of how he worked with the New Zealand police on a really exciting project named Ella. Ella is a digital human who was temporarily employed by the New Zealand police as an experiment to see how people would react to her, and the feedback was overwhelmingly positive. Sean encourages us to search for Ella online to see what she looks like, and he also offers advice to newcomers to the world of technology, stressing the importance of factoring in ongoing and additional costs, not just how much you initially pay for a piece of hardware. Be sure to visit Sean via his various social media profiles to say hello, and please do subscribe to Tech Leader Talk so that you never miss an episode! Time Stamps [0:07] – Steve introduces this episode's guest – Sean G. Muller – to the podcast. [1:03] – We begin to learn how Sean got started in the world of technology and how he got to where he is now. [2:36] – Sean reflects on the difficult time that he and many other people in the tech industry endured after 9/11 but how he eventually got back on his feet. [4:44] – Sean refers to his current job working for IBM in New Zealand as his dream job. [5:27] – Sean credits IBM for having challenged him to do more than he had ever done before. [7:25] – Sean comments on commonalities between the past companies for which he had worked, citing good leadership as what led to success. [9:43] – Sean discusses how there are multiple levels of leadership, resulting in ineffective leadership at the very top trickling down to lower levels. [10:20] – Sean describes what makes a leader effective, summarizing them as personable. [11:45] – Sean theorizes that the COVID-19 pandemic was likely much more difficult for micromanagers than it was for more personable leaders because of the need to work remotely. [13:37] – Sean posits what trends will impact the world of technology over the next couple of years, such as how artificial intelligence will continue to accelerate. [16:15] – Sean predicts that augmented reality and virtual reality are also going to continue to be on the rise and hopes that power grids will become more reliant on reusable energy. [17:27] – Sean explains his worries about where technology is headed such as biased artificial intelligence slowly breaking down civil liberties. [19:08] – Sean stresses the importance of technology production companies being mindful of what they are doing to ensure that technology is being used for good. [20:09] – Sean offers a couple of pieces of advice for those of us who are just getting into the world of technology. [22:52] – Sean shares with us what is in store for him and IBM in the foreseeable future. [24:23] – Sean backtracks a bit and narrates his time working for the New Zealand Police in the past, developing a digital human. [27:00] – Sean reveals that Ella, the digital human project with the New Zealand police, was a success in that feedback was overwhelmingly positive even though the police decided that they weren't ready. [29:15] – We learn that we can look up what Ella looks like using the phrase New Zealand police Ella digital human. [29:42] – Steve brings the episode to closure by thanking Sean for his time, and Sean shares with us how we can reach him. Links and ResourcesSoul Machines Ella Sean's LinkedIn Page Sean's Twitter Page The Kiwi Innovator's Podcast Sean's Instagram Page Sean's Facebook Page Steve Sponseller - Website Steve Sponseller – Cracking the Patent Code

Wendy Covey, C.E.O. and co-founder of TREW Marketing as well as one of ten most innovative entrepreneurs in America named by Wall Street Journal, joins me today to discuss content marketing and how the world of technology has been affected by aspects such as generational trends and the current COVID-19 pandemic. TREW Marketing is a content marketing agency which serves companies that are seeking to target technological audiences, and, as Wendy discusses, that requires being innovative and human friendly. Wendy shares how TREW Marketing came to be and what her hopes and fears are for the future of the company as well as the world of technology in general. She discusses what changes technology companies can expect to undergo within the next few years and how the world of technology has been and will continue to be impacted by changes in generational social behavior, something that she believes that effective leaders need to be able to keep up with. She, for example, hopes that technology companies will move away from the trend of being ahead in their solutions but behind in their operations, and she stresses how important that it is for technology entrepreneurs to know their audiences. She also approves, however, of how companies seem to be catering more toward their employees and providing benefits such as profit sharing and flexibility in hours. We also discuss what impacts the current pandemic have had on technology companies and how the need for changes with how things are done has generally been more challenging for baby boomers but a smoother transition for millennials, and Wendy shares what plans are on the horizon within TREW Marketing for 2021. Be sure to check out TREW Marketing and what they are up to, and also be sure to subscribe to Tech Leader Talk so that you never miss an episode! Time Stamps [0:07] – Steve introduces this episode's guest, Wendy Covey, and tells us her credentials in the field of technology. [1:23] – Wendy enthusiastically expounds upon her background, telling us a little bit about herself such as how her degree is in journalism and marketing and how she started her company TREW Marketing. [4:06] – We learn about Wendy's fishing hobby and how she has a record for longest fish ever caught. [5:13] – Wendy discusses what trends she predicts will affect technology companies within the next few years and how digital and online content is becoming more and more essential. [7:47] – Steve and Wendy converse about how the current pandemic has had social consequences on the world in general but especially the world of technology. [9:35] – We hear Wendy explain what impacts new trends are having on traditional content marketing. [11:17] – Wendy defines what makes a good, successful technology leader to her, such as knowing their target audience and innovating accordingly. [13:08] – Wendy talks about what worries her most about where the technology industry is headed, affirming that there needs to be a balance between efficiency and human interaction. [14:26] – Wendy stresses how crucial that it is to assess your audience demographics before catering to them. [16:52] – We learn what technologists can do if they have good technical knowledge but don't enjoy and/or aren't skilled at writing, such as collaborating with someone who is a skilled writer. [19:09] – Wendy enthuses over being an optimistic person and details what she is hopeful for regarding the future of technology. [21:28] – Wendy advises that it's important to share knowledge with other companies and be collaborative. [24:18] – Wendy shares what her plans for 2021 are at TREW Marketing. [26:20] – We discover how we can find Wendy online and learn more about her. Links and Resources Wendy Covey – Content Marketing, Engineered Content Marketing, Engineered Podcast TREW Marketing – Website TREW Marketing Research Report Wendy's LinkedIn Page Steve Sponseller - Website Steve Sponseller – Cracking the Patent Code

Welcome to the newly launched Tech Leader Talk podcast, hosted by yours truly, Steve Sponseller. The Tech Leader Talk podcast will highlight technology company leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts and will give them a platform to share their successes, challenges, and even some of their failures during their time in the technology industry. We talk about what seems to be working right now so that we can build on what we know for a better future and also so that you can learn about how to build upon your own business(es), lessons that will be learned from guests' successes and failures. In the first episode of Tech Leader Talk, I warmly welcome Stephanie Frank and Bryce Kuhlman as my very first guests. Stephanie and Bryce both have long histories with the world of technology and are the co-founders of The Holisec Group, a company that seeks to create technology that puts people and the human experience first. Stephanie and Bryce share their stories about how they each came to be involved in the world of technology as well as how they came to meet and know each other and build the business partnership that they now have. They talk about their hopes and fears about the future of the world of technology and where it's headed, and they both discuss how important it is that technology leaders put people first, as they themselves do within The Holisec Group. Stephanie and Frank also share with us news of their current project – My Calmpanions. My Calmpanions are aptly named artificially intelligent teddy bears meant to promote calmness and peace of mind for people. Be sure to visit the My Calmpanions website for more information about that project, and please be sure to subscribe to the Tech Leader Talk podcast so that you never miss an episode. Time Stamps [0:07] – Steve introduces himself and welcomes us to the first episode of the podcast, explaining what the premise of the podcast will be from here on out. [0:55] – Steve introduces this episode's guests, Stephanie Frank and Bryce Kuhlman, and details their credentials and their experience working in the field of technology. [2:08] – Stephanie provides us with further insight about her background and how she got started in the world of technology, which she says started as somewhat of an accident. [4:11] – We learn a little bit about Stephanie's educational background and how that led to a career of cyber-intelligence. [5:03] – Bryce tells us a little bit about his background and how he started out as a magician but then eventually got involved in technology because he liked to tinker with and make things. [6:06] – We find out how Bryce received an education in engineering, physics, and robotics and how that led to his becoming a certified rocket scientist. [8:14] – Bryce responds to Steve's question about what kind of impacts technology can expect to see within the next couple of years, commenting on artificial intelligence and augmented reality. [9:43] – Stephanie elaborates upon how the current COVID-19 pandemic will likely affect people's behavior and psychology which will in turn affect technology. [11:09] – Stephanie, Bryce, and Steve all discuss the relationship between technology and anonymity. [12:19] – Stephanie discusses why some entrepreneurs in the technology industry are successful while others are not, iterating the importance of a consistent vision. [15:06] – We learn that Stephanie and Bryce both agree that being in a field of technology should not be financially driven but should be about fulfilling others' lives. [17:18] – Stephanie reveals that she didn't originally know that technology was her destined path but realized that technology had the powerful potential to help people. [18:43] – Bryce expresses his worries regarding the world of technology, lamenting that there are many people's voices and ideas that are not being heard. [19:23] – Stephanie agrees with Bryce but adds that she worries about technologists manipulating consumers. [22:06] – Stephanie is optimistic that technology will be used for good and the betterment of humanity, and Bryce agrees, adding that technology allows people from all over the world to come together. [23:14] – We discover how Stephanie and Bryce met and became co-founders of The Holisec Group. [25:07] – Stephanie explains that she and Bryce are currently working on a project known as My Calmpanions, artificially intelligent teddy bears that promote calmness and peace of mind for people. [27:57] – Stephanie offers advice to other technology leaders, stressing how important that it is to be truthful at all times. [30:16] – Bryce agrees with Stephanie but adds that it's also essential to be willing to collaborate with others. [32:13] – Stephanie tells us where we can find her and Bryce online. Links and Resources The Holisec Group - Website My Calmpanions – Website Steve Sponseller - Website Steve Sponseller – Cracking the Patent Code