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Welcome to The Lions of Liberty Podcast Network - where culture, comedy, and capitalism collide. The true OG voice of libertarian and anarchist and thought in the podcast space. We cut through the noise with razor-sharp takes on politics, free markets, and the cultural battles shaping our world. Whether you're a politically inclined free thinker or an entrepreneurial disruptor shaking up the status quo, the Lions of Liberty will deliver. On Monday, John Odermatt delivers a powerful mix of inspiration, health and faith to set your mind, body and soul free with "Finding Freedom," Wednesday Brian McWilliams will make you laugh at our broken world while providing the promise of a better future with Mean Age Daydream, and Fridays we have "Meme Wars" with some politics, some comedy and some memes. www.lionsofliberty.com
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Sep 4, 2025 • 1h 2min
TBNS: Patrick Bet-David vs. 20 Anti-Capitalists
What happens when one capitalist takes on twenty socialists at once? That’s the showdown we’re unpacking in today’s episode, and the results are as wild—and eye-opening—as you’d expect. This isn’t just a debate; it’s a master class in exposing the weakness of collectivist arguments and showing why personal responsibility, hard work, and liberty still beat victimhood and envy every time.
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Patrick Bet-David sat down on Jubilee’s Surrounded series with a circle of twenty anti-capitalists ready to pounce. From claims that success is only possible if you’re “a 6’4 white guy” to emotional pleas about poverty and mental illness, the arguments flew fast. But when confronted with facts, logic, and empathy, the socialist narratives crumbled—and today we break it all down.
Connor Vasile joins me to dissect clip after clip from this viral debate. We look at the entitlement mindset, the obsession with victimhood, and the refusal to accept real-world solutions even when they’re offered on a silver platter. You’ll hear how attempts to frame capitalism as evil collapse under their own contradictions.
We also expose the deeper danger: the cultural shift toward entitlement that fuels socialist thinking. From demands for “livable wages” without skills to blaming capitalism for personal struggles, these conversations show exactly why liberty must be defended with truth, strategy, and courage.
If you’re tired of the excuses, tired of the envy, and ready to see how free-market principles crush collectivist delusions in real life, this episode is for you. Strap in—it’s one capitalist versus twenty socialists, and the lessons couldn’t be more relevant for the battles we face today.
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Sep 3, 2025 • 45min
MADD: Phil Magness on the 1619 Project Myth
Author, economic historian, and David J. Theroux Chair in Political Economy at the Independent Institute, Phillip W. Magness joins Brian to break down the falsehoods, errors, and childishness of the New York Times' 1619 Project from an honest historical perspective.
Visit https://www.independent.org/ for more on Phil, to buy the book or to enjoy more of their scholarship.
Care about your liberty and future? Don’t miss the Expat Money Online Summit, October 10–12, hosted by Mikkel Thorup of the Expat Money Show. It’s free to attend and features top experts on protecting wealth, securing second residencies, lowering taxes, and owning property abroad. Upgrade for lifetime replay access and VIP panels with promo code LIONS for 20% off at https://2025.expatmoneysummit.com/
We have a new show on Lions of Liberty! The Politicks Podcast! Be sure to subscribe to the standalone Politicks Podcast feed. This is the absolute best way to support the show! Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And remember, they’re all Blood Suckers!
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Sep 2, 2025 • 1h 3min
TLPP: TFP's Lucy Biggers' Climate Change Change
The Free Press’s Lucy Biggers went from climate-crisis influencer to climate-alarm denier. I have no clue how big this episode’s carbon footprint is, but it’s worth all the coal we burned to make it happen. Lucy and I talk about her beginnings at NowThis, why climate change doesn’t scare us anymore, hipsters bringing back dung stoves, and how all that money celebrities raised to aid the victims of the California fires might as well have burned up.
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Lou Perez is a comedian, producer, and the author of THAT JOKE ISN'T FUNNY ANYMORE: ON THE DEATH AND REBIRTH OF COMEDY. You may have seen him on Gutfeld! , FOX News Primetime, One Nation with Brian Kilmeade, and Open to Debate (with Michael Ian Black).
Lou was the Head Writer and Producer of the Webby Award-winning comedy channel We the Internet TV. During his tenure at WTI, Lou made the kind of comedy that gets you put on lists and your words in the Wall Street Journal: “How I Became a ‘Far-Right Radical.’”
As a stand-up comedian, Lou has opened for Rob Schneider, Rich Vos, Jimmy Dore, Dave Smith, and toured the US and Canada with Scott Thompson. Lou has also produced live shows with Colin Quinn, the Icarus Festival, and the Rutherford Comedy Festival.
For years, Lou performed at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theater (both in NYC and L.A.) in sketch shows with the Hammerkatz and his comedy duo, Greg and Lou. Greg and Lou is best known for its sketch "Wolverine's Claws Suck," which has over 20 million views on YouTube alone.
In addition to producing sketch comedy like Comedy Is Murder, performing stand-up across the country, and writing for The Blaze's Align, Lou is on the advisory board of Heresy Press, a FAIR-in-the-arts fellow, and host of the live debate series The Wrong Take and The Lou Perez Podcast (which is part of the Lions of Liberty Podcast Network).
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Sep 1, 2025 • 52min
FF 505: Warp Speed Whiplash: Trump vs. Pfizer
On today’s episode of Finding Freedom, John pulls back the curtain on several important stories and provides a personal update:
He shares his own negative experience with Primo Brands and explains the unfolding class action lawsuit connected to the company.
John gives an entrepreneurial update, highlighting the latest progress and challenges across his ventures.
He covers the inspiring case of a 16-year-old in New York who won a major federal court victory securing medical exemptions from school vaccine mandates—an important moment in the fight for health freedom.
Finally, John unpacks Donald Trump’s call for Pfizer to release vaccine data, exploring what this demand means for Operation Warp Speed, accountability, and transparency in the pharmaceutical industry.
This episode blends relevant personal updates, entrepreneurship, and critical health freedom issues—all from a liberty-minded perspective.
We have a new show on Lions of Liberty! The Politicks Podcast! Be sure to subscribe to the standalone Politicks Podcast feed. This is the absolute best way to support the show! Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And remember, they’re all Blood Suckers!
Subscribe to John’s Finding Freedom Show solo feed to listen to “Pursuit of Freedom,” which is a new podcast series where John shares the highs and lows of his entrepreneurial journey. Listen and Subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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Aug 29, 2025 • 1h 3min
PoliTicks Ep 9: The Scottish Joan of Arc
Join Brian McWilliams, John Odermatt, Lou Perez and Brian Nichols every other week for the newest show on the Lions of Liberty Network, the Politicks Podcast! And remember, they’re all bloodsuckers!
This week we talk about:
Scottish knife / hatchet girl is famous: the new Joan of Arc?
https://x.com/StefanBrakus93/status/1960308698850439384
Another Trans Catholic School Shooter
https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/
Disney Looking to Make Stuff for Gen Z Men
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/disney-marvel-lucasfilm-gen-z-1236494681/
Care about your liberty and future? Don’t miss the Expat Money Online Summit, October 10–12, hosted by Mikkel Thorup of the Expat Money Show. It’s free to attend and features top experts on protecting wealth, securing second residencies, lowering taxes, and owning property abroad. Upgrade for lifetime replay access and VIP panels with promo code LIONS for 20% off.
Be sure to subscribe to the standalone Politicks Podcast feed. This is the absolute best way to support the show! Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And remember, they’re all Blood Suckers!
Follow the Lions of Liberty:
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Get access to all of our bonus audio content, livestreams, behind-the-scenes segments and more for as little as $5 per month by joining the Lions of Liberty Pride on Patreon OR support us on Locals!
Check out our merchandise at the Lions of Liberty Store for all of our awesome t-shirts, mugs and hats! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 29, 2025 • 1h
TBNS: MAHA vs Junk Food: SNAP Rules You NEED to Know
Is government the right tool to force “healthy choices,” or does that create a slippery slope that kills freedom and backfires on public health? This episode digs into Make America Healthy Again (MAHA), SNAP junk-food restrictions, nicotine policy, and a first-in-the-nation proposal to ban tobacco sales for anyone born after 2006—probing the real tradeoffs between education, mandates, and personal responsibility in a polarized era where big government and big food often pull the strings behind the scenes.
Care about your liberty and future? Don’t miss the Expat Money Online Summit, October 10–12, hosted by Mikkel Thorup of the Expat Money Show. It’s free to attend and features top experts on protecting wealth, securing second residencies, lowering taxes, and owning property abroad. Upgrade for lifetime replay access and VIP panels with promo code LIONS for 20% off.
We have a new show on Lions of Liberty! The Politicks Podcast! Be sure to subscribe to the standalone Politicks Podcast feed. This is the absolute best way to support the show! Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And remember, they’re all Blood Suckers!
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From Bloomberg-style soda limits to SNAP rules that block soda and candy, the conversation asks whether taxpayer-funded programs should require nutritious purchases—and if that improves outcomes or simply punishes the poor while entrenching corporate interests that shaped the old food pyramid in the first place. The discussion tackles how MAHA is changing the national debate, what evidence exists on diet-related costs, and why “education vs. bans” isn’t an easy binary when incentives and messaging are captured by politics and industry alike.
The episode also unpacks Massachusetts’ “born-after” tobacco proposal that would permanently bar adults born after 2006 from buying cigarettes, vapes, or pouches—even at 21—raising equal-protection questions, black-market risks, and cross-border leakage, while spotlighting a state trendsetter whose tobacco rules often go national. Listeners will hear how courts have already upheld a similar Brookline local ordinance, what that legal logic means statewide, and why such age-cohort bans might escalate prohibition’s unintended consequences.
Beyond policy, the show explores culture: why tribes flip views based on “who” proposes the rule, how social media amplifies contrarian reactions, and what practical, principle-driven solutions could reduce harm without turning adults into permanent wards of the state. Expect frank talk, real-world examples, and a challenge: can a country teach better choices, protect taxpayers, and still respect liberty in an information environment where both government and corporations have incentives to mislead ?
If the future is “education first,” what should that look like—and who can be trusted to deliver it without capture or censorship; if it’s “policy first,” which rules actually reduce harm without creating new inequities, costs, and criminalization that spill over to courts, jails, and underground markets ?
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Aug 27, 2025 • 35min
MADD: The Irony! 4Chan is the US Champion of Free Speech vs. EU Nazis
On this week's Mean Age Daydream: The deep irony of the purported "Nazis" of 4Chan being the bulwark against the EU's censorship 4th reich; DNC summer meetings are hilarious and show they've learned nothing, and could Russia be the US' most potent ally in the future?
Care about your liberty and future? Don’t miss the Expat Money Online Summit, October 10–12, hosted by Mikkel Thorup of the Expat Money Show. It’s free to attend and features top experts on protecting wealth, securing second residencies, lowering taxes, and owning property abroad. Upgrade for lifetime replay access and VIP panels with promo code LIONS for 20% off at https://2025.expatmoneysummit.com/
We have a new show on Lions of Liberty! The Politicks Podcast! Be sure to subscribe to the standalone Politicks Podcast feed. This is the absolute best way to support the show! Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And remember, they’re all Blood Suckers!
Help support what we do and grow our show! https://patreon.com/lionsofliberty OR support us on Locals! https://lionsofliberty.locals.com/
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Aug 26, 2025 • 1h 19min
Lou Perez Podcast: Weaponize Culture with Author Rian Stone
Today’s episode starts out on a disappointing note. My guest Rian Stone, video essayist and author of the novels Softbone: Down and Out in New Kowloon and The Dog Walker, thought he was coming on to talk to his professional-wrestling hero, “Lightning” Lou Perez. I’m sorry I had to break the kid’s heart—I am not that Puerto Rican guy—but I think I made up it up to Rian. We talked about culture as a weapon (see Jackson Pollock and Martha Graham); what it’s like to host a stand-up show with Bill Burr in the lineup; my good friend and Ski School alum Dean Cameron; and why Rian (and you) should see The Naked Gun reboot. Turns out, Rian and I are a rare breed: We like things. And we want to get back to making things that are fun and seeing things made that are fun too.
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Lou Perez is a comedian, producer, and the author of THAT JOKE ISN'T FUNNY ANYMORE: ON THE DEATH AND REBIRTH OF COMEDY. You may have seen him on Gutfeld! , FOX News Primetime, One Nation with Brian Kilmeade, and Open to Debate (with Michael Ian Black).
Lou was the Head Writer and Producer of the Webby Award-winning comedy channel We the Internet TV. During his tenure at WTI, Lou made the kind of comedy that gets you put on lists and your words in the Wall Street Journal: “How I Became a ‘Far-Right Radical.’”
As a stand-up comedian, Lou has opened for Rob Schneider, Rich Vos, Jimmy Dore, Dave Smith, and toured the US and Canada with Scott Thompson. Lou has also produced live shows with Colin Quinn, the Icarus Festival, and the Rutherford Comedy Festival.
For years, Lou performed at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theater (both in NYC and L.A.) in sketch shows with the Hammerkatz and his comedy duo, Greg and Lou. Greg and Lou is best known for its sketch "Wolverine's Claws Suck," which has over 20 million views on YouTube alone.
In addition to producing sketch comedy like Comedy Is Murder, performing stand-up across the country, and writing for The Blaze's Align, Lou is on the advisory board of Heresy Press, a FAIR-in-the-arts fellow, and host of the live debate series The Wrong Take and The Lou Perez Podcast (which is part of the Lions of Liberty Podcast Network). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 25, 2025 • 49min
FF 504: The Corporate Revolution: Redefining Careers with Amanda Goodall
Amanda Goodall, known as The Job Chick, is a career strategist who helps professionals navigate today’s rapidly changing job market. She has identified what she calls “the corporate revolution”—a global shift in how companies operate that’s fueling layoffs, offshoring, and career instability. Through her work, Amanda equips people with the tools and strategies to stand out, adapt, and secure meaningful opportunities despite these challenges.
Care about your liberty and future? Don’t miss the Expat Money Online Summit, October 10–12, hosted by Mikkel Thorup of the Expat Money Show. It’s free to attend and features top experts on protecting wealth, securing second residencies, lowering taxes, and owning property abroad. Upgrade for lifetime replay access and VIP panels with promo code LIONS for 20% off.
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We have a new show on Lions of Liberty! The Politicks Podcast! Be sure to subscribe to the standalone Politicks Podcast feed. This is the absolute best way to support the show! Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And remember, they’re all Blood Suckers!
Subscribe to John’s Finding Freedom Show solo feed to listen to “Pursuit of Freedom,” which is a new podcast series where John shares the highs and lows of his entrepreneurial journey. Listen and Subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Follow the Lions of Liberty:
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Get access to all of our bonus audio content, livestreams, behind-the-scenes segments and more for as little as $5 per month by joining the Lions of Liberty Pride on Patreon OR support us on Locals!
Check out our merchandise at the Lions of Liberty Store for all of our awesome t-shirts, mugs and hats!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 21, 2025 • 53min
TBNS: Can AI Survive Without Fossil Fuels?
Is AI the new “Need” from The Lorax—a shiny invention that looks harmless but comes with hidden costs? That’s the tough question we’re asking in today’s episode, and the answer might change how you see both technology and energy forever. We’re diving headfirst into whether artificial intelligence is truly a tool for abundance or just another story of progress that leaves us worse off.
We have a new show on Lions of Liberty! The Politicks Podcast! Be sure to subscribe to the standalone Politicks Podcast feed. This is the absolute best way to support the show! Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And remember, they’re all Blood Suckers!
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Think about it: the Lorax warned us about cutting down truffula trees for a quick buck, but are we repeating that story today with AI? People celebrate chatbots, automation, and algorithms, but nobody asks the deeper question—what powers it all? The servers behind ChatGPT don’t run on “good vibes” or environmental slogans. They run on massive amounts of energy, and right now, that means fossil fuels.
In this episode, we break down the uncomfortable truth: without fossil fuels, AI doesn’t exist. Net Zero activists may dream of a world powered by renewables, but the demand for AI is exploding faster than windmills and solar farms can keep up. From corporate ESG mandates to government green agendas, we’re seeing a collision between fantasy and reality—and that’s where the future of innovation hangs in the balance.
But here’s the twist: like the Lorax story, there’s more at play than just the danger of cutting too many trees—or in this case, burning too much fuel. What if AI isn’t just a flashy “need” but actually a tool that unlocks real abundance? From customer service to medical breakthroughs, from fighting human trafficking to expanding education, AI has the power to lift people up. The real question is: will we let fear and bad policy choke off that potential before it has the chance to grow?
This episode isn’t just about AI or energy—it’s about how we think about progress itself. Is creation good, or should we always apologize for building? Is innovation dangerous, or is it the only way we survive and thrive? If you’ve ever wondered what the Lorax would say about ChatGPT, fossil fuels, and the future of human flourishing, you can’t afford to miss this conversation.
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