

Blue Sky
Bill Burke
Hosted by Bill Burke, founder of The Optimism Institute, this weekly podcast will feature inspiring leaders, authors, researchers, and big thinkers who are taking on some of our world’s toughest challenges with an infectious sense of optimism. Blue Sky takes its name from the meditation reminder that there’s always blue sky above, sometimes you just have to get your head above the clouds to see it.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Aug 6, 2025 • 11min
Curiosity + Resilience: A Formula for Optimism
Bill Burke reflects on an idea presented by Niren Chaudhary in episode 107. Niren described curiosity and resilience as two master skills required to successfully run the marathon of life. In this "A Bit of Blue Sky," Bill underscores Niren's belief and relates these qualities to optimism, providing examples through past Blue Sky guests.

Jul 30, 2025 • 51min
Niren Chaudhary Reflects on Rebounding From Grief and His Successful Career Leading With Gratitude and Love
Niren Chaudhary has led a remarkable life while overcoming intense personal tragedies. He describes his success in running global business as stemming from a foundational belief in putting his employees first and leading them with love, gratitude, and respect. Chapters: 01:36 Meet Niren Chaudhary Niren Chaudhary, a visionary leader and CEO, shares his impressive career journey, highlighting his roles at Panera Bread and Yum! Brands. 04:04 The Power of People in Business Niren reflects on the significance of gratitude and treating employees well, emphasizing that a positive work culture leads to better customer experiences. 09:02 Balancing Work and Family Niren discusses the challenges of managing global responsibilities while remaining committed to his family, sharing insights on leadership as a privilege. 12:00 Navigating Personal Tragedies The conversation shifts to Niren’s personal life, where he opens up about the loss of his daughters and the impact of grief on his journey. 23:03 Finding Hope After Loss Niren shares how he transformed his grief into personal growth, emphasizing the importance of self-love, acceptance, and hope in overcoming hardship. 26:36 Aisha’s Legacy Niren honors his daughter Aisha’s remarkable life, discussing her courage and values that continue to inspire him and shape his outlook on life. 30:01 The Lens of Gratitude Niren shares how viewing life through gratitude enriches our experiences and reflects on Aisha’s wisdom about the importance of generosity and fulfillment. He highlights the profound impact of her words, emphasizing that even hardships can lead to deeper appreciation. 32:00 Aisha’s Lasting Impact Reflecting on Aisha’s life, Niren discusses the lessons learned from her limited time and how her legacy inspires him to embrace life fully. He reveals how her perspective on enjoying life despite challenges continues to shape his journey. 33:12 Exploring New Horizons As Niren transitions from corporate life, he outlines his current endeavors aimed at unlocking human potential through coaching, academics, and writing. He shares his excitement for teaching at Harvard and the importance of inspiring future leaders. 36:06 Writing for Change Niren discusses his motivation behind writing two new books focused on resilience and leadership, aiming to inspire those he hasn’t met. He emphasizes the importance of sharing life lessons to help others navigate their own challenges. 39:03 The Power of Self-Talk In this segment, Niren introduces the themes of his books, particularly the significance of self-talk and resilience in shaping our responses to life’s challenges. He encourages listeners to cultivate a positive inner dialogue to foster personal growth. 41:00 Mastering Time and Focus Niren shares his daily routines and time management strategies that allow him to balance multiple projects while maintaining focus. He emphasizes the importance of engaging in activities that bring joy and energy, avoiding distractions that drain productivity. 46:04 Habits for Life’s Marathon Niren concludes with powerful insights on the importance of curiosity and resilience as key habits for navigating life’s challenges. He encourages listeners to embrace learning and commit to their goals, even when faced with obstacles.

Jul 23, 2025 • 43min
Heidi Johnson on Loss, Grief, and the Transformative Power of Giving
Heidi Johnson was in a great spot in life. She had a great family, good job, all she could reasonably ask for. But when her mother was killed in a shocking accident, that all changed. After suffering from intense grief, Heidi’s life changed when she was asked to start a new initiative at her local children’s hospital. This led her to create and lead her own nonprofit and to a life today of service and also shining a light on other nonprofit leaders, through both a book and hosting her podcast, Charity Matters. Chapters: 00:30 Heidi Johnson’s Journey Begins Heidi Johnson shares her life story, detailing her upbringing in a large Irish Catholic family and the unexpected tragedy that altered her life’s path, leading her to a deeper exploration of grief and purpose. 04:11 The Tragic Accident Heidi recounts the harrowing details of her parents’ vacation in Costa Rica, where a devastating accident claimed her mother’s life and left her father in a coma, profoundly impacting her family and her outlook on life. 07:29 The Revelation of Grief Heidi reflects on how her grief revealed her inner strength and fueled her desire to help others, transforming her pain into a powerful catalyst for change in her life. 10:34 A Call for Help A pivotal moment arises when a priest at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, reaches out to Heidi for assistance in establishing a nonprofit to provide emotional support to families, marking the beginning of her new mission. 12:56 Establishing the Nonprofit Heidi discusses the formation of the Spiritual Care Guild, detailing the challenges and triumphs of starting a nonprofit organization dedicated to providing chaplains for families in need at the hospital. 17:28 The Impact of Service Through her work at the Children’s Hospital, Heidi discovers the profound personal health benefits of service, illustrating how helping others can lead to healing and meaning in one’s own life. 18:14 The Birth of Charity Matters Heidi shares the inspiration behind her blog and podcast, Charity Matters, which highlights the stories of nonprofit founders and the impact of their work, showcasing the entrepreneurial spirit in the nonprofit sector. 23:24 Lessons from Nonprofit Founders In this segment, Heidi reflects on the commonalities she has observed among nonprofit founders, emphasizing their resilience, optimism, and the transformative power of personal experiences that drive their missions. 27:38 Finding Growth in Loss Heidi articulates her belief that loss can lead to personal growth, sharing insights on how adversity can pave the way for new beginnings and a deeper understanding of purpose. 31:47 The Journey from Corporate to Nonprofit Heidi reflects on her transition from a successful corporate career to running a nonprofit, sharing the challenges and rewards of this significant life change. 35:41 Igniting Passion in Others Heidi shares insights on the importance of building community as a nonprofit founder and the necessity of igniting passion in others to join the cause. She emphasizes the contagious nature of enthusiasm and how it helps in forming a supportive network. 38:08 Philanthropy in America The conversation shifts to the philanthropic spirit of Americans, with Heidi noting that a significant percentage of the population volunteers. She discusses the importance of focusing on local communities and how small acts of kindness can create a ripple effect. 40:07 The Good in the World Heidi and Bill conclude with a discussion about the prevalence of good deeds happening around the world, countering the negativity often portrayed in the media. They celebrate the resilience and positivity that nonprofit work embodies, encouraging listeners to contribute to their communities.

Jul 16, 2025 • 52min
Wounded Warrior Tom Deierlein’s Remarkable Story of Grit, Resilience, Service, and Optimism
As a West Point graduate who had completed his required service, Tom Deierlein was well into a successful career in digital advertising when he was called up once again to serve in Operation Iraqi Freedom. There, while working to help struggling Iraqi families meet their basic needs, a sniper’s bullet would change his life’s trajectory. In this Blue Sky conversation, Tom shares his remarkable life story, on that is marked by inspiring grit, resilience, service, and optimism. Chapters: 02:11 Tom Deierlein’s Background Tom Deierlein shares insights about his upbringing as the eighth of nine children and his early influences that led him to West Point. He reflects on the values instilled by his parents and his initial motivations for joining the military. 05:24 Military Service and Leadership Development Tom discusses his military training and the leadership development he experienced during his service, emphasizing the structured professional growth within the Army. He explains his transition from active duty to civilian life and the decisions that led him to the reserves. 08:45 Return to Service and Civil Affairs After a 12-year hiatus, Tom is called back to active duty and deployed to Iraq, where he serves in civil affairs. 12:31 Humanitarian Efforts in Iraq Tom recounts his experiences providing aid to local children and families in Iraq, driven by the dire conditions he witnessed. He shares how he mobilized support from friends and colleagues back home to send supplies and assistance. 16:47 Life-Changing Injury Tom shares the harrowing details of being shot by a sniper in Iraq, describing the severity of his injuries and the immediate medical response he received. He highlights the critical moments that followed and his journey to recovery. 22:41 The Birth of the TD Foundation While recovering at Walter Reed, Tom’s friends and supporters continue to fundraise for his humanitarian efforts, leading to the establishment of the TD Foundation. He explains the foundation’s mission to support children of wounded warriors and families in crisis. 25:51 Resilience and Recovery Tom reflects on his emotional journey during recovery, including moments of doubt and the importance of maintaining a positive attitude. He discusses the role he played in supporting other wounded veterans and the lessons learned from his experiences. 30:06 The Growth of the TD Foundation Tom Deierlein shares the evolution of the TD Foundation, highlighting its mission to support families of wounded warriors and fallen heroes. 36:09 Navigating Challenges with Gratitude In this chapter, Tom reflects on the importance of gratitude in overcoming life’s challenges, drawing inspiration from his personal journey. He emphasizes how the TD Foundation’s quick response to urgent needs helps families regain hope. 37:15 Entrepreneurial Spirit: Thundercat Technology Transitioning to his entrepreneurial journey, Tom introduces Thundercat Technology, a company he founded that focuses on data center technology and government contracts. He discusses the company’s growth and its mission to enhance national security. 41:40 The Role of Optimism and Grit in Business Tom elaborates on the significance of optimism and grit in entrepreneurship, sharing his pragmatic approach to goal-setting and resilience. He explains how these qualities have shaped his leadership style and the culture at Thundercat. 49:02 A Journey of Growth and Inspiration Wrapping up the conversation, Tom reflects on the importance of maintaining a positive outlook despite life’s inevitable challenges. He encourages listeners to embrace optimism and resilience as essential tools for personal and professional growth.

Jul 9, 2025 • 49min
Jodie Jackson on How to Manage Our News Consumption to Preserve Our Mental Health and Well-Being
Many years ago, Jodie Jackson found herself in a deep depression. As she worked to identify the causes her deteriorating mental health, she realized it had a lot to do with her excessive and indiscriminate consumption of news and information. In the years since, she’s become a recognized expert on media literacy and a passionate advocate for understanding and managing our intake of news to protect our mental health. Chapters: 01:12 Introducing Jodi Jackson Jodie Jackson, an expert in the psychological impact of news on mental health, shares her background and the motivation behind her work in constructive journalism. 02:27 The Personal Journey to Understanding News Impact Jodie recounts her personal experience with anxiety and panic attacks, linking them to her news consumption, and how she sought out positive stories to shift her perspective. 05:39 Understanding Negativity Bias The conversation shifts to the concept of negativity bias, exploring how media exploits our natural inclination towards negative news and its effects on our perception of reality. 10:15 Historical Context and Perspective Jodie and Bill discuss the importance of historical context in understanding current events, emphasizing that our perception of the present can often be skewed by the news. 13:01 The Power of Positive News Jodie highlights the transformative power of focusing on positive news, drawing parallels between news consumption and dietary habits for mental health. 14:29 Exploring Cognitive Biases The discussion delves into cognitive biases like availability bias and confirmation bias, illustrating how they shape our beliefs and perceptions based on the information we consume. 20:15 The Role of Media Algorithms Jodie explains how modern media algorithms reinforce our biases by curating content that aligns with our existing beliefs, making it crucial to be aware of our media consumption habits. 25:31 Staying Informed Without Overwhelm Addressing concerns about staying informed, Jodie offers strategies to consume news mindfully, balancing negative and positive content to foster resilience. 30:00 The Importance of Staying Informed Jodie emphasizes the need to stay informed while maintaining mental resilience against negative news. 31:20 Batching News Consumption The discussion shifts to effective news consumption strategies, distinguishing between ‘just in time’ and ‘just in case’ information. Jodie advises focusing on relevant news that one can take action on, rather than overwhelming oneself with constant updates. 33:44 Navigating Information Overload Jodie shares insights on balancing positive and negative news, highlighting the dangers of excessive exposure to distressing events. She encourages listeners to engage with news that resonates with their interests and values. 36:00 Understanding News in the Digital Age The conversation explores how today’s youth consume news differently, primarily through social media, and the challenges this presents in discerning credible information. 39:10 The Role of Parents in Media Literacy Jodie discusses the crucial role parents play in modeling healthy news consumption behaviors for their children. 42:25 Mastering Your Mind Jodie introduces her ‘Master Your Mind’ program, designed to help individuals train their brains for better emotional regulation and resilience. She explains how this program empowers participants to create a positive mindset intentionally. 46:30 Closing Thoughts and Resources In the final segment, Jodie reiterates the importance of viewing news as an invitation to knowledge rather than complete understanding. She encourages listeners to explore her resources, including her TED Talk and the ‘Master Your Mind’ course.

Jul 2, 2025 • 9min
4th of July Edition and Reflections on American Optimism
This discussion reflects on the significance of the 4th of July, highlighting the enduring spirit of American optimism. It contrasts the nation's imperfections with its achievements and emphasizes hope amid challenges. The conversation dives into the revolutionary ideals that foster a belief in democracy and innovation. Listeners are encouraged to appreciate the journey toward a more perfect union while celebrating national pride and the complexities of American history.

Jun 25, 2025 • 49min
Nichole Argo on Her Remarkable Work as a Community Builder
Nichole Argo describes the work she’s doing to bring communities together by assembling people with different viewpoints around one table to discuss their challenges and formulate solutions. After great success in her hometown, she’s now pursuing similar models across the country, and she’s optimistic that combining a growing desire for belonging with proven methods for building community will yield positive results. Links: TogetherUp Institute Reimagining Us podcast Chapters: 01:11 Meet Nichole Argo Bill introduces Nichole Argo, a social psychologist and founder of the Togetherup Institute, highlighting her impressive background and her work in promoting belonging and community resilience. 02:30 Understanding Social Psychology Nichole explains the essence of social psychology, discussing how it examines social identities and group behaviors, and shares her journey from studying conflict to fostering cooperation. 04:11 Navigating Conflict The conversation delves into Nichole’s personal comfort with conflict, exploring how understanding and managing internal conflicts can lead to more productive discussions in various settings. 06:02 The Challenge of Online Conflict Bill and Nichole discuss the rise of online conflict and the societal tendency to engage in arguments, emphasizing the importance of recognizing when to step back from disputes. 08:39 Founding TogetherUp Nichole recounts the founding of TogetherUp, driven by a local crisis in her community, and the importance of building relationships across differences to foster belonging. 10:44 The Needham Resilience Network Nicole shares her experience with the Needham Resilience Network, a transformative initiative aimed at bridging divides and fostering collaboration among community members. 14:00 The Power of Local Communities Nichole emphasizes the significance of local communities in practicing democracy and fostering resilience, arguing that local solutions are essential for addressing broader societal challenges. 19:09 Finding Common Ground The conversation explores the idea of identifying shared values and interests among differing groups, illustrating how focusing on commonalities can facilitate better communication and understanding. 22:15 The Importance of Resilience Nichole discusses the necessity of resilience in facing contemporary challenges, stressing that strong communities can better withstand adversities through social cohesion. 23:25 Launching Reimagining Us Nichole introduces her podcast, Reimagining Us, detailing its purpose of exploring how Americans can collaborate across differences and the motivations behind its creation. 27:10 The Beauty of Local Action Bill and Nichole reflect on the abundance of individuals and initiatives working towards positive change at the local level, emphasizing the importance of community engagement and action. 29:10 Influencing Change at the Local Level In this chapter, the conversation explores how individuals can make a significant impact within their local communities, contrasting it with the challenges of influencing larger political structures. 31:05 The Role of Local Media Nichole and Bill delve into the critical role of local media in fostering community engagement and cohesion, especially in the face of declining local news outlets. 33:30 The Double-Edged Sword of Social Media This chapter addresses the paradox of social media, which has the potential to unite and divide communities. 36:14 Reimagining Social Media for Good Nichole highlights emerging platforms that focus on building connections and fostering a sense of belonging. 44:40 Empowering Communities with Resources In the final segment, Nichole shares how TogetherUp is providing tools and resources for communities to foster belonging and engagement.

Jun 18, 2025 • 45min
Harry Smith on Life Lessons and His Career in Journalism
Over the course of his remarkable career, Harry Smith interviewed six US presidents and numerous celebrities including Julia Roberts, Cher, and Madonna. But on this Blue Sky episode Harry shares that his favorite people to cover were the ones we’ve likely never heard of, the everyday heroes that he describes as the glue of our society. Harry shares some of the wisdom he’s earned and now share bestows on students in the college class he’s teaching at his alma mater. Chapters: 02:16 Meet Harry Smith: A Journalism Legend Bill welcomes Harry Smith, a respected journalist with a rich career spanning over three decades, and reflects on Harry’s journey from humble beginnings to a prominent news anchor. 03:34 From Truck Driver Dreams to Journalism Harry shares his early aspirations of becoming a truck driver and how his upbringing in a blue-collar family shaped his work ethic and eventual path into journalism. 07:01 The Spark of Curiosity Harry discusses how influential teachers ignited his passion for writing and journalism, emphasizing the importance of curiosity in his career development. 11:44 The Importance of Authentic Stories Harry reflects on his preference for interviewing everyday people with extraordinary stories, highlighting the authenticity and richness of their experiences compared to rehearsed celebrity narratives. 15:00 Media and Public Perception The conversation shifts to the current state of media, with Harry discussing the longstanding criticism of news outlets and how public trust has fluctuated over the years. 17:57 Building Trust Through Hard Work Harry shares insights on how building trust in journalism allows for more freedom in storytelling, emphasizing the importance of thoroughness and dedication in his career. 20:04 Curiosity as a Lifelong Skill Harry discusses his teaching on curiosity at Central College, explaining how intrinsic curiosity can lead to greater fulfillment in both professional and personal life. 25:44 Finding Joy in the Everyday Harry emphasizes the importance of mindfulness and being present, sharing how simple observations of nature can enhance one’s appreciation for life. 29:25 The Power of Discipline and Nature Harry discusses the importance of discipline in his writing process and how engaging with nature can uplift one’s spirit. He emphasizes the joy of experiencing the outdoors over succumbing to negativity. 32:10 Teaching the Next Generation Harry reflects on his experience teaching college students and challenges the stereotypes of Generation Z. He shares how his students surprised him with their willingness to engage in hands-on learning and take risks. 36:21 Optimism in Marriage Harry opens up about his marriage with Andrea, contrasting their differing perspectives on optimism. He shares a light-hearted moment that highlights their dynamic and Andrea’s determination in her career. 39:16 Navigating Information Overload As the conversation wraps up, Harry offers advice on managing media consumption and staying informed without becoming overwhelmed. He stresses the importance of balance and turning off the constant stream of news. 42:44 A Class Like No Other The episode concludes with a reflection on Harry’s unique teaching style that incorporates fun and engagement, making learning enjoyable for his students. The host expresses admiration for Harry’s approach and the impact he has on young minds.

Jun 4, 2025 • 11min
Some Reasons Why Today Is the Greatest Time to Be Alive
Blue Sky host Bill Burke, along with several past guests, have described today as the best time to be alive in all of human history. On this episode, Bill explains some data-backed reasons why and provides hope that even better days lie ahead.

May 28, 2025 • 50min
Mary McManus on Surviving and Thriving After Recovering from Trauma and Polio
Mary McManus has never had it easy. As a kindergartener, she was a victim of polio just a short time before the vaccine was introduced. She also faced trauma in her home life but somehow managed to persevere and overcome these and still more obstacles throughout her life. Today, Mary is an inspiring author, poet, motivational speaker, and finisher of the Boston Marathon. Chapters: 01:05 Meet Mary McManus Mary McManus is introduced as a remarkable individual with a story of resilience and triumph over adversity. 02:14 Mary’s Early Challenges Mary shares her early life experiences, including her diagnosis of polio at a young age and the impact it had on her family dynamics. Despite her paralysis, she describes a profound spiritual connection that provided her comfort during this challenging time. 08:09 The Road to Recovery Mary recounts her journey through physical therapy and the support she received from dedicated professionals who helped her regain mobility. 12:08 Finding Purpose in College In college, Mary discovers her passion for helping others while working in the counseling center. 16:08 A Career with Veterans Mary shares her experiences working with veterans at the VA, highlighting the challenges they faced upon returning from Vietnam 17:02 The Diagnosis of Post-Polio Syndrome Mary discusses her diagnosis of post-polio syndrome nearly 50 years after her initial polio diagnosis, detailing the physical and emotional challenges she faced. 22:59 Turning Pain into Poetry In a moment of introspection, Mary turns to poetry as a means of healing and self-expression. This creative outlet not only provides relief from her pain but also sparks a new chapter in her life. 24:21 From Poetry to Running Mary shares her transformative journey from writing poetry to setting an ambitious goal of completing the Boston Marathon 29:01 Rebuilding Strength: The Journey Begins Mary shares her initial struggles with physical fitness post-therapy, highlighting her determination to regain strength. With the support of her trainer, she sets ambitious goals, including a desire to run the Boston Marathon. 31:34 The Training Journey: From Walking to Running Mary describes her gradual transition from walking to running, emphasizing the importance of patience and support from family during her training. 35:03 Facing Doubts: The Mental Challenge of Marathon Training As the Boston Marathon approaches, Mary reflects on the mental hurdles she faces, including moments of doubt. However, her unwavering belief in her ability to complete the race, supported by her trainer and family, keeps her focused. 38:10 The Emotional Finish: Crossing the Marathon Line Mary recounts the emotional experience of running the Boston Marathon, including the support from friends and family along the course. She describes the overwhelming joy and healing she felt as she crossed the finish line. 39:57 Life After the Marathon: Trials and Triumphs After the marathon, Mary faces new challenges, including personal loss and health setbacks, yet she remains resilient. 44:33 Resilience Through Adversity: The Power of Poetry and Running Mary discusses her experiences during the pandemic, including health challenges and the therapeutic power of writing poetry. Despite setbacks, she finds motivation to continue running and sets new goals for herself. 46:44 Looking Forward: Embracing New Challenges As Mary reflects on her journey, she emphasizes the importance of resilience and gratitude in overcoming life’s challenges. With plans to run a half marathon again, she inspires others to pursue their goals, regardless of obstacles.