

That Was Us
Mandy Moore, Chris Sullivan, and Sterling K. Brown
This Is Us stars Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never before heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.With new episodes out every Tuesday, join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future. That Was Us...
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Dec 2, 2025 • 1h 31min
Kevin & Sophie Reunite | "A Hell of a Week: Part Two" (412) with Logan Shroyer (Teen Kevin)
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 12: A Hell of a Week: Part Two. The one and only Logan Shroyer, AKA teen Kevin, joins us for a rewatch in the studio to chat about the most memorable parts of this episode, answer fan questions, and more! This episode shifts the focus to Kevin, as a call from Sophie brings old memories and unfinished feelings to the surface. Through flashbacks and emotional moments in the present, we see Kevin face his past and try to find clarity about his future.
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.
Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.
Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:32 Discussion
01:14:08 Fan Segment
01:25:46 Outro
Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 25, 2025 • 1h 59min
Intruder | "A Hell of a Week: Part One" (411) with Niles Fitch (Teen Randall)
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 11: A Hell of a Week: Part One — and we have a very special guest joining us in studio: Niles Fitch, AKA teen Randall! Niles sits down with Mandy, Sterling, and Chris to break down the episode, share behind-the-scenes stories, and answer fan questions. This episode of This Is Us kicks off a three-part arc centered on the Big Three, starting with Randall. After an intruder breaks into his home, Randall is thrown into a spiral of anxiety that unearths long-buried fears. Through flashbacks to childhood and college, we see how a lifetime of holding everything together for everyone else finally brings him to a breaking point.
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.
Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.
Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:32 Discussion
01:38:33 Fan Segment
01:56:21 Outro
Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 18, 2025 • 1h 36min
Jack and Rebecca Fall In Love | "Light and Shadows" (410)
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 10: Light and Shadows. Randall supports Rebecca as she is faced with a difficult truth at her doctor’s appointment, Kate and Toby acknowledge the growing distance between them, and Kevin takes a woman on an elaborate first date. In the past, Jack and Rebecca finally say, “I love you.” Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling talk about relationships, passion vs. stability, long term love, and more!
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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Support Our Sponsors:
- Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated
Head over to https://Bombas.com and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase.
- Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more, to claim, visit https://www.article.com/twu and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout
- Help protect your home systems – and your wallet – with HomeServe against
covered repairs. Plans start at just $4.99 a month. Go to https://HomeServe.com to
find the plan that’s right for you.
- Restore your peace of mind with Harbor: the only baby monitor designed to never fail you. Use code TWU or go to https://Harbor.co/TWU for $50 off
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.
Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.
Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:32 Discussion
01:22:39 Fan Segment
01:32:27 Outro
Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards
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Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 11min
A Very Pearson Thanksgiving | "So Long, Marianne" (409)
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 9: So Long, Marianne. If there's one holiday the Pearsons love...it's Thanksgiving! Today we dive into another memorable holiday with the entire Pearson family (and a few special guests) who come together at Randall and Beth’s new home in Philly. Rebecca grapples with her memory, Tess confides in Kevin about her journey of coming out, and Deja shares an emotional reunion with her mom. In the past, Jack and Nicky begin a tradition that will be carried on for generations to come.
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00 Intro
00:00:32 Discussion
00:54:47 Fan Segment
01:08:08 Outro
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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 4, 2025 • 1h 32min
Rebecca Gets a Job | "Sorry" (408) with special guest Timothy Omundson
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 8: Sorry. Kevin is forced to reckon with himself after getting intimate with Cassidy, Kate leans on her newfound friendship with her neighbor, and Randall and Beth navigate new parenting challenges. In the past, Rebecca gets a new job, taking a step toward rebuilding her life. In this episode, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris chat with Timothy Omundson who played Gregory, Kate and Toby’s Neighbor! Gregory talks all about the stroke that changed his life, how This Is Us creator Dan Fogelman has given him the best creative and career opportunities, and the impact he wanted his character to have on audiences.
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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Support Our Sponsors:
- Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more, to claim, visit https://www.article.com/twu and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout
- Keep it classic and cozy this season with long-lasting staples from Quince. Perfect for gifting or keeping for yourself. Go to https://quince.com/twu for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.
- Help protect your home systems – and your wallet – with HomeServe against covered repairs. Plans start at just $4.99 a month. Go to https://HomeServe.com to find the plan that’s right for you.
- Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated Head over to https://Bombas.com and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00 Intro
00:00:32 Discussion
00:54:59 Interview
01:28:29 Outro
Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 34min
Deja and Malik's First Kiss | "The Dinner and the Date" (407) with special guest Asante Blackk
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 7: The Dinner and the Date. Malik and Deja skip school to explore Philly, which leads to a dinner at Beth and Randall's with Malik's parents to discuss how to handle their relationship. Meanwhile, in the past, Jack and Rebecca welcome Randall’s teacher, Mr. Lawrence, to their home for dinner. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat with Asante Blackk, AKA Malik, about his journey leading up to This Is Us, what it was like playing Malik, memories acting with Lyric Ross (Deja), funny memories in scenes with Sterling, and so much more!
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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Support Our Sponsors:
- Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item DonatedHead over to https://bombas.com/ and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase.
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- Keep it classic and cozy this fall with long-lasting staples from Quince. Go to https://www.quince.com/twu for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00 – Welcome Back to “That Was Us” 🎧
Mandy Moore and Sterling K. Brown catch up on life, healing, and why This Is Us remains the emotional balm we all need.
03:35 – Philly Vibes & Cheesesteak Debates 🧀
Deja and Malik’s adorable date begins with laughter, local eats, and some serious cheesesteak talk.
7:10 – The Real Philly: Malik’s World 🌆
Malik takes Deja off the tourist trail to see his real Philadelphia — the heart, soul, and neighborhood connections that define him.
12:30 – First Crush, First Kiss 💕
A beautiful young love story unfolds — from butterflies to that perfect first kiss. Tender, honest, and unforgettable.
19:59 – Meet the Parents: Pearson vs. Hodges Dinner 🍽️
Randall and Beth host Malik’s parents for a dinner that’s equal parts hilarious, tense, and eye-opening.
22:02 – Open-Toed Shoes & Open Minds 👠
Beth’s comic brilliance shines as she tries to “keep an open mind” — and open-toed shoes — during the world’s most awkward dinner.
27:21 – Dinner Table Drama & Class Clashes ⚡
Class, culture, and judgment come to a boil as the families size each other up — with grace said and shade thrown.
38:19 – Truths, Tensions & Tattoos 💬
Randall and Malik’s dad find unexpected common ground after a night of confrontation, honesty, and reflection.
41:07– Parenting Lessons & Redemption 🙏
The Pearsons face their own biases — and learn that love, not control, is what their daughter really needs.
41:56 – Flashback: Jack, Rebecca & Mr. Lawrence 🕰️
In the past, Jack invites Randall’s teacher over for dinner — and the night reveals deep insecurities and unspoken lessons.
58:20 – Langston Hughes, Identity & Healing 📚
A moving finale as young Randall recites “I, Too” — a powerful reflection on identity, belonging, and love.
1:01:3 – Spotlight on Asante Blackk 🌟
The hosts chat with Asante Blackk (Malik) about his acting journey, music, and life lessons from This Is Us.
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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 21, 2025 • 1h 17min
Playing The Game | "The Club" (406)
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 6: The Club. Randall struggles to navigate his identity and get Jack to understand his perspective. Kate and Toby make time to work on their marriage, while Kevin spends time with Cassidy and Nicky as his Uncle’s court date draws near. Mandy, Chris, and Sterling also chat about intimacy after having kids, finding that connection with your partner, filming vulnerable scenes, the effect of hurtful comments online, and so much more.
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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Support Our Sponsors:
- Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more. To claim, visit https://www.article.com/twu and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout
- Restore your peace of mind with Harbor: the only baby monitor designed to never fail you. Use code TWU or go to https://harbor.co/twu for $50 off
- This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/TWU and get on your way to being your best self.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00 – 👋 Welcome Back
02:02 – 💑 New Parents, New Challenges
06:10 – 🔥 Kate & Toby’s “Get the Spark Back” Montage
10:30 – 🙈 Behind the Scenes: Filming the Hotel Scene
14:54 – 🧠 Marriage, Empathy & Emotional Honesty
20:00 – ⛳ Jack & Rebecca at the Country Club
31:48 – 👦 Randall Meets Mr. Lawrence
35:40 – 👁 “If You Don’t See Color…”
45:28 – 🏌️♂️ Lessons on Golf, Life & Legacy
53:22 – 💔 Kevin, Cassidy & Uncle Nicky in the Woods
01:00:08 – ❤️ Love, Connection & Grace in Parenthood
01:02:58 – 💬 Fan Segment: Perpetua’s Story of Belonging
Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 40min
Dinner in the New House | "Storybook Love" (405)
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 5: Storybook Love. The Big Three reunite at Rebecca's new house to celebrate Kevin and Sophie getting married, but when things don’t go as planned, Rebecca is reminded of the very first meal she shared with Jack in their new home years earlier. Mandy, Chris, and Sterling talk about grief and moving on from a loved one, how your purpose can evolve and change, and so much more!
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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Support Our Sponsors:
- Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated
Head over to https://bombas.com/ and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase.
- This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/TWU and get on your way to being your best self.
- Buy four cartons and get the fifth free, at https://davidprotein.com/thatwasus. You can also find David on Amazon and at local retailers—just use the store locator on their website. Humans aren’t perfect, but David is.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:32 Discussion
01:18:13 Fan Segment
01:37:04 Outro
Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz, Rob Holysz & Jeph Porter
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 29min
Kevin & Sophie Get Married | "Flip a Coin" (404) with writer Julia Brownell
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 4: Flip a Coin. Kate and Toby adjust to life with baby Jack while Beth prepares for the opening of her dance studio. In the past, Rebecca goes to Parents’ Weekend at Randall’s college, Kate gets a job at a record store, and Kevin...gets married! Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat more about this cliffhanger in next week's episode too...so tune in! They also discuss the changing landscape of TV after This Is Us, learning to ask for help, and, with the help of our special guest, writer Julia Brownell, what in the world "getting bricked" meant in the writer's room!
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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Support Our Sponsors:
- Go to https://OmahaSteaks.com to get 50% off sitewide during their Red-Hot Sale Event. And use Promo Code TWU at checkout for an extra $35 off. Minimum purchase may apply. See site for details. A big thanks to our advertiser, Omaha Steaks!
- Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item DonatedHead over to https://bombas.com/ and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase.
- Keep it classic and cozy this fall with long-lasting staples from Quince. Go to https://www.quince.com/twu for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:32 Discussion
01:02:15 Interview
01:25:53 Outro
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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz, Rob Holysz & Jeph Porter
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 34min
Finding Purpose | "Unhinged" (403) with special guest Tim Jo
On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 3: Unhinged. As Uncle Nicky faces the fallout of his actions, Kevin steps in to help and crosses paths with Cassidy. Meanwhile, Randall launches his open-door policy, Kate meets her neighbor Gregory, and Malik opens up to Deja about his daughter. On the pod, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling talk to a surprise guest after ringing them up on a whim AND Tim Jo, AKA Jae-Won, joins to chat about his time on the show!
That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.
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Support Our Sponsors:
- Keep it classic and cozy this fall with long-lasting staples from Quince. Go to https://www.quince.com/twu for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.
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- Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item DonatedHead over to https://bombas.com/ and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase.
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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:32 Discussion
01:11:48 Interview
01:30:52 Outro
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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz, Rob Holysz & Jeph Porter
Creative Producer: Sam Skelton
Video Editor: Todd Hughlett
Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


