If you listen to podcasts, you’re probably familiar with Andy Mills' work. He was a co-creator of The Daily, the award-winning podcast for the New York Times that attracts millions of listeners each week. He’s also created, produced, and edited Rabbit Hole, Caliphate, and The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling, among others. Andy is a deeply thoughtful, intentionally curious human, and that is readily apparent in his newest show, Reflector, co-created with Matthew Boll. We get into a lot in this conversation, like why has storytelling become increasingly political over the last decade? What happens when politics comes to fill a space in society that religion once did? And how do we get to the truth of an event that involves multiple valid perspectives? If there’s a though line here, it’s a call to reject what Andy calls, “The arrogance of certainty.”Reflector (Substack) // Reflector (Spotify)Rabbit HoleThe Witch Trials of J.K. Rowlingandymills.workGround News gathers news coverage from around the world, empowers free thinking, and makes media bias explicit. Subscribe through my link at https://check.ground.news/Next for 15% off your subscription.If You Liked This Conversation, You'll Probably Like These Episodes of Where We Go Next:117: The Things We're Afraid to Talk About (But Should), with Sarah Hepola & Nancy Rommelmann115: Spaceships, Silicon Valley, and Psilocybin, with Ashlee Vance113: Freethinkers Only, Please, with Meghan Daum110: The Mounting Evidence That COVID-19 Leaked from a Lab, with Alina Chan108: Investigative Journalism Is in Jeopardy, with Nancy Rommelmann105: Religious Cults, Fringe Science, and the Need for Belief, with Ross Blocher & Carrie Poppy101: Uncovering the Hidden Truths in Political Memoirs, with Carlos Lozada91: Free Speech Isn't Just for People We Like, with Kat Rosenfield65: Untangling Partisan Narratives and Fixing Political News, with Isaac Saul40: Great Writers Must Be Vulnerable in Public, with Andrew Sullivan----------If you liked this episode, consider sharing it with someone you think might like it too.Email: michael@wherewegonext.comInstagram: @wwgnpodcast