

And That's Why We Drink
Christine Schiefer, Em Schulz | Para Pods
Murder and the paranormal finally meet! Grab your wine and milkshakes and join us every Sunday for some chilling ghost stories and downright terrifying true crime stories. The world's a scary place. And that's why we drink!
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Dec 14, 2025 • 1h 41min
E462 Dream Mall Rats and Whistleblowing Dogs
This week, the hosts delve into the eerie history of the Jane Addams Hull-House, including its spooky baby devil hauntings that captivated Chicago in 1913. They also explore intriguing theories about shared dream phenomena related to malls. Additionally, a poignant discussion unfolds around the tragic disappearance of Lauren 'El' Cho, highlighting the uneven media coverage for missing people of color. Interspersed are personal anecdotes about pets, wellness routines, and the quirky world of TikTok conspiracies.

Dec 7, 2025 • 2h 3min
E461 Houdini Hat Men and Intertwined Ghost Toes
We’re back for another episode of our favorite podcast - ours! Episode 461 is here and today we’ve got a double feature of Arizona stories. First Em covers the spooky hauntings of the Copper Queen Hotel in Bisbee before Christine takes us 4 hours away for the mysterious unsolved disappearance of Daniel Robinson. And is Christine the paranormal genius of our dreams? …and that’s why we drink!
If you have any information on Daniel’s Disappearance you can contact the Buckeye Police Department at: 623-349-6411
Photo Links:
Zak's Rebel Spirit Outfit
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Ghost Adventures S7 E3 (The Copper Queen Hotel & The Oliver House) - 31:35 min for the clip
HULU or Discovery+
https://www.hulu.com/watch/9c78c5a0-c339-4df1-8dd1-17dd7251cb02
https://www.discoveryplus.com/gg/en/shows/ghost-adventures/s7/74a0b187-22a7-47ee-8132-bf9fd15f86cc/e3-copper-queen-hotel-the-oliver-house/62598120-fc8c-4761-b302-75dd2e757d17
Daniel Robinson Case Page
https://www.buckeyeaz.gov/community/daniel-robinson-2070
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Dec 1, 2025 • 1h 25min
Listener Stories: Vol. 110 featuring. Sarah Marshall
December is here and we sent a Satan symbol to the clouds to summon the awesome Sarah Marshall to join us for a batch of satanic panic themed listener tales. Today we hear about satanic Pokémon Tazos, panic at the truck stop, hypnosis gone wrong, possible devil worshippers in the woods, and more. And please... keep your frogs away from us… and that’s why we drink!
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Nov 30, 2025 • 1h 17min
E460 Haunting Snap Chats and Screening Calls from Space
In a lively live show from Houston, spooky tales abound as one host shares chilling stories from the haunted Hotel Galvez, including ghostly children and a famous tragic spirit. The curious hauntings of room 501, featuring a sorrowful lady in white, captivate listeners. Transitioning to true crime, the saga of astronaut Lisa Nowak unfolds, detailing her tumultuous personal life, a dramatic confrontation, and media frenzy. This episode seamlessly weaves ghosts and crime into an entertaining narrative.

Nov 23, 2025 • 2h 7min
E459 Radioactive Acorns and Chicken Tricks
PASS the cran… berry? Because it’s Episode 459 and we’re remixing the Thanksgiving song this year. This week Em covers the Kecksburg Incident aka Pennsylvania’s Roswell, a classic UFO story. Then Christine covers the fascinating case of Lawrence Joseph Bader aka John “Fritz” Johnson. And who can settle the debate about what end of the acorn is the tushy? Happy Thanksgiving week! …and that’s why we drink!
Photo Links:The Kecksburg UFO replicaCloseup of UFO replica symbolsLawrence Joseph Bader
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Nov 16, 2025 • 1h 53min
E458 Rat Slaps and Sklorching Demons
It’s Episode 458 and are we actually talking to you from the future?! This week Em takes us to London for The Nameless Thing of Berkeley Square, a “vile and phantasmagorical killer from beyond the grave”. Then Christine covers the disappearance of Robert “Bobby” Dunbar, an unfortunate and mysterious case of two missing boys. And if you’re ever sad just remember, maybe you are someone’s neighborhood lore… and that’s why we drink!
Photo Links:The Nameless Thing of Berkeley Square Cryptid CardRobert Bobby Dunbar before and after
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Nov 9, 2025 • 1h 57min
E457 Segway Fun Facts and Inflatable Birthday Tiaras
It’s Episode 457 and we’re wishing Gio a very happy 10th birthday! Today Em brings us to Christine’s hometown for the very haunted Cincinnati Music Hall. Then Christine covers the case of Little Miss Lake Panasoffkee now known as Maureen “Cookie” Rowan as she’s just been identified after 55 years! And please don’t leave your buckets of formaldehyde gel laying around where we can see them… and that’s why we drink!
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Nov 2, 2025 • 1h 34min
E456 Town Hall Friends and Costume Condom-gate
Happy 456 synchronicity/angel number episode! Since it is forever spooky season in our hearts we’ve got a few more Halloween related stories today. First Em brings us to Nebraska for the terrifying Seven Sisters Road and it’s haunted hijinks. Then Christine covers the unfortunate murder of Chelsea Bruck which leaves us saying words we’ve never said before. And if you’ve got questions that no one’s ever asked before, don’t fret because Detective Schiefer is on the case! …and that’s why we drink!
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Nov 1, 2025 • 1h 7min
Listener Stories: Vol. 109 with Roz Hernandez
Roz Hernandez, a ghost hunter and host of horror-themed podcasts, joins to discuss her unique approach to investigating haunted locations. She shares spine-chilling stories, including a terrifying encounter at a San Diego hotel. The group analyzes listener-submitted videos, debating the authenticity of ghostly footage. Roz dives into the intriguing topic of whether we may be gaslighting ghosts, and how our pets often sense spirits. Plus, she promotes her YouTube channel and other podcasts, inviting listeners to join her ghost-hunting adventures.

Oct 31, 2025 • 1h 40min
BONUS EPISODE: The History of Queer-Coded Villains with Yvette Gentile and Rasha Pecoraro
Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the gayest of them all? Happy surprise Halloween episode! Today we're joined by sisters Yvette Gentile and Rasha Pecoraro of So Supernatural podcast to dive into the history of queer-coded villains, the Hays Code and our favorite, gay characters across the media landscape before they were legally able to come out of the closet. Representation matters, folks, including Christine's newly uncovered obsession with the Grinch. We love gay Halloween, what do you mean you're going as Luke the Halloweentown goblin before he magically turned cute... and that's why we drink!
Check out the Buzzfeed listicle Christine mentions here to help get you in the Halloween spirit: https://www.buzzfeed.com/samstryker/all-the-disney-villains-ranked-from-least-gay-to-most-gay
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