
Two Think Minimum
Podcast of the Technology Policy Institute of Washington, D.C.
The Technology Policy Institute is a think tank that focuses on the economics of innovation, technological change, and related regulation in the United States and around the world. Our mission is to advance knowledge and inform policymakers by producing independent, rigorous research and by sponsoring educational programs and conferences on major issues affecting information technology and communications policy.
Latest episodes

Feb 21, 2025 • 41min
Little Tech, Big Challenges: Competing in the AI Era with Matt Perault
Little Tech, Big Challenges: Competing in the AI Era with Matt Perault by Technology Policy Institute

Jan 29, 2025 • 40min
Future of News Ratings and Media Trust with NewsGuard CEO Gordon Crovitz
On the latest episode of Two Think Minimum, Gordon Crovitz, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of NewsGuard joins hosts Tom Lenard, Sarah Oh Lam, and Scott Wallsten to discuss the evolving landscape of news credibility, misinformation, and the role of media ratings. They discuss NewsGuard’s approach to assessing news sources, the controversies surrounding its ratings, and the broader implications of government involvement in media regulation.

Dec 10, 2024 • 31min
Stablecoin Policy and the Future of Crypto with Christian Catalini
Stablecoin Policy and the Future of Crypto with Christian Catalini by Technology Policy Institute

Nov 26, 2024 • 42min
European Innovation and Competitiveness with Nicolas Petit
In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Nicolas Petit, Chair in Competition Law at the European University Institute, joins hosts Tom Lenard, Scott Wallsten, and Sarah Oh Lam to explore the pressing challenges facing European competitiveness. Drawing insights from the recent Draghi Report, Petit discusses Europe's innovation gaps, the role of big tech, and the critical policy shifts needed to secure the region's economic future.

Nov 8, 2024 • 27min
The Politics of Prediction Markets: John Phillips and David Mason
On the latest episode of Two Think Minimum, TPI hosts Tom Lenard, Sarah Oh Lam, and Scott Wallsten explore the world of polls and prediction markets with Aristotle CEO John Phillips and General Counsel David Mason. Aristotle helps run PredictIt, a platform which enables research into how markets can forecast events in real-time. The conversation covers how PredictIt is navigating CFTC regulation, the broad value of small-dollar prediction markets to understanding public opinion and risk forecasting, and how PredictIt determines which questions to create contracts for. This episode offers valuable insights for anyone interested in the intersection of market dynamics, public opinion, and data-driven insights.

Jun 5, 2024 • 55min
The Economics of AI: Prediction Machines and Their Impact with Ajay Agrawal
The Economics of AI: Prediction Machines and Their Impact with Ajay Agrawal by Technology Policy Institute

May 21, 2024 • 38min
AI Accountability Policy with Ellen P. Goodman
In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Ellen P. Goodman, a distinguished professor of law at Rutgers Law School and former Senior Advisor for Algorithmic Justice at NTIA, U.S. Department of Commerce discusses artificial intelligence accountability policy. The podcast revolves around the NTIA AI Accountability Policy Report, which was released in March 2024, which Goodman was the principal author of. Goodman shares insights into the process of gathering and analyzing public comments for the report, the
challenges of defining accountability in the context of AI, and the
complexities of establishing standards in a rapidly evolving field. The conversation also touches on the potential impact of AI on labor markets, the role of auditors in ensuring AI accountability, and the government's own use of AI technology. Goodman concludes by discussing her current research on AI and copyright issues, particularly the copyrightability of AI-generated outputs.

May 6, 2024 • 40min
Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Competition Policy with Catherine Tucker
In this episode of Two Think Minimum, MIT Professor Catherine Tucker discusses her research on competition policy and artificial intelligence. The discussion focuses on how AI's unique cost structures differs from that of traditional digital economics, how economists think about AI, and the implications of AI for competition policy and antitrust enforcement. Tucker explains that the current high fixed and marginal costs in AI are likely temporary, and that it's difficult to predict which firms will succeed in the AI industry. She also highlights the challenges AI poses for antitrust enforcement, such as the potential lack of "hot docs," the need for greater technical expertise among regulators, and the importance of understanding the role of data and algorithms in competition analysis.

Apr 30, 2024 • 52min
Congressional Silence, Agency Power, and the Chevron Doctrine with Caroline Cecot
In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Caroline Cecot, an associate professor of law at Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University, talks about her recent article "The Meaning of ‘Silence.’" The discussion focuses on the potential consequences of narrowing the applicability of the Chevron doctrine and consequences on the major questions doctrine. She discusses the broader implications of overruling or limiting Chevron deference and the role of cost-benefit analysis in agency decision-making and the effect of the composition and views of the Supreme Court on administrative law issues.

Mar 29, 2024 • 44min
FTC Actions on Antitrust Reforms with Ginger Jin and Liad Wagman
FTC Actions on Antitrust Reforms with Ginger Jin and Liad Wagman by Technology Policy Institute
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