

The Perfect Scam
AARP
AARP's weekly podcast The Perfect ScamSM tells the stories of people who find themselves the target of a scam. Host Bob Sullivan introduces listeners to those who have experienced scams firsthand, as well as professional con artists and leading experts who pull back the curtain on how scammers operate.
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Nov 21, 2025 • 54min
Scam Declined: How Bank Employees Stopped a Scam
In this enlightening discussion, Dwight and Dodie Thomas recount their frantic efforts to save their mother, Linda, from a manipulative scammer posing as an FTC official. They share how attentive bank employees foiled the scam by questioning suspicious transactions and safeguarding Linda's funds. Jalene Gunther from AARP introduces the BankSafe initiative, emphasizing how training bank staff can prevent financial exploitation. Together, they highlight the importance of family communication and protective measures to combat scammers.

Nov 14, 2025 • 22min
Archive Episode: Brooke Astor, Famous Socialite Robbed
Philip Marshall, grandson of the glamorous philanthropist Brooke Astor, details his battle against financial elder abuse. He recounts the shocking transformation of a beloved matriarch into a victim, influenced by his father's controlling ways. Philip shares harrowing stories of clandestine staff meetings that revealed exploitation, alongside the painful sale of cherished family art. He describes the legal struggles for guardianship and the emotional toll of pursuing justice, all while navigating complex familial emotions and the fight for elder protection.

Nov 7, 2025 • 52min
Criminals Threaten Jail Time in Jury Duty Scam
Jana Cash, a Florida resident and recent victim of a jury-duty impersonation scam, shares her harrowing experience of being coerced into paying a $9,000 bond under false pretenses. She discusses the emotional turmoil this scam inflicted on her and her family. Joining her is Steve Wiseman, a professor specializing in white-collar crime, who explains the psychological tactics scammers use, including spoofing and isolation. He highlights the dangers of cryptocurrency ATMs in scams and offers practical advice on preventing such attacks.

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Oct 31, 2025 • 1h 1min
Thieves Drain Crypto Wallets in Sophisticated Phishing Scam
Glenn Fishman, a Denver real estate agent and early crypto investor, shares his harrowing tale of losing $180,000 to a sophisticated phishing scam. He recounts receiving a convincing 'Coinbase support' call that led him to unwittingly hand over his account details. Molly White, a former software engineer and crypto skeptic, discusses the alarming rise of similar scams and the lack of consumer protections in cryptocurrency. Together, they highlight the complexities of recovering stolen funds and the challenges that victims face.

Oct 24, 2025 • 50min
From Puppies to Heartbreak: How a Pet Scam Targets One Man's Home
When a couple pulls up to Gene's North Carolina home looking for their beagle puppy, he is not sure what to make of it. But soon, a steady stream of would-be pet owners arriving in the following days and weeks makes it clear that criminals are using his address to pull off their scams. Gene is patient and helpful with the disappointed families. Even after a fire destroys Gene's home, the scams continue

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Oct 17, 2025 • 56min
This Job Scam is Suddenly Everywhere
Christine Kiefer, Senior Director at FINRA's Office of Investor Education, dives deep into the world of task scams that are preying on job seekers. She highlights the psychological tactics used by scammers, like gamification and emotional manipulation, that keep victims hooked. Listeners learn valuable red flags to watch for, such as unusual account demands and rapid payment requests. Christine emphasizes the need for vigilance and verification, as she outlines how to protect oneself from falling victim to job-related fraud.

Oct 10, 2025 • 58min
North Korean "Laptop Farm" Scams Target American Companies
Robert McMillan, a Wall Street Journal cybersecurity reporter, and Joe Hooper, an FBI agent, delve into the shocking laptop-farm scam linked to North Korea. They shine a light on Christina Chapman, a woman ensnared by the scheme while seeking financial relief. The guests discuss how remote work during the pandemic enabled these scams, with North Korean operators leveraging stolen identities to infiltrate U.S. companies. They also cover the investigation's evolution, revealing the alarming scale of these operations and the real-world consequences for unsuspecting Americans.

Oct 3, 2025 • 40min
Job Seekers Targeted in Water Filtration Job Scam, Part 2
In part 2, victims of a nationwide fraud scheme join forces on a Facebook group and share their stories with investigative journalist Lou Raguse of KARE in Minneapolis. Someone is selling water purification devices to entrepreneurs, who think they are getting in on the ground floor of a great opportunity, but then fails to deliver the promised gadgets. Lou discovers the criminal's identity is Charles Fields, a suburban Minneapolis father who uses a host of aliases to pull off the scheme. Lou and the victims' dedication, along with the discovery of key evidence in an unusual place, help law enforcement successfully bring Fields to justice.

Sep 26, 2025 • 27min
Job Seekers Targeted in Water Filtration Job Scam, Part 1
Job seekers all over the country answer ads for sales positions at a water filtration company. The offer is promising, and the contracts look professional. The only catch is the initial $5000 investment in a water purification unit. However, when the prepaid units never arrive, people begin to realize they are victims of a scam. They form a Facebook group, band together, and convince investigative journalist Lou Raguse to take up their cause. Will they get justice?

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Sep 19, 2025 • 55min
The Crypto Detectives: Tracking Down Stolen Funds
Join Detective Scott Simons, a cyber investigation specialist from the Greenfield Police Department, and Erin West, the founder of Operation Shamrock and former prosecutor, as they unpack the dark world of cryptocurrency scams. Discover how they helped a victim recover $80,000 from a $450,000 loss. Simons shares his techniques for tracing stolen funds through crypto wallets, while West emphasizes the importance of public-private collaboration in combating transnational fraud. Their insights offer both hope and practical strategies for scam victims.


