

How We Survive
Marketplace
"How We Survive" is an award-winning podcast from Marketplace, hosted by Amy Scott, about the messy business of climate solutions. In the seventh season, we investigate the rise, fall and reincarnation of Environmental, Social and Governance (ESG) investing. And we look at where Wall Street money is driving solutions, where it’s causing more problems, and we ask if capitalism is even compatible with sustainability.
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Nov 29, 2023 • 25min
Water, water, everywhere
As water supplies in the west dry up, finding solutions is critical. The good news is that water is all around us, if you know where to look and how to treat it. In this episode, we’re going on a road trip to check out the fascinating technology producing water from the sewer, the ocean and even out of the sky! Plus, Amy tastes the next generation of water and shares her favorite.

Nov 22, 2023 • 29min
Betting on Conservation
Las Vegas is a fantastical Disneyland for adults in the middle of the desert. It features fabulous displays of water — like the thousand dancing fountains of the Bellagio Hotel or the winding canals that recreate Venice at the Venetian Hotel. But surprisingly, it’s a city that has also become known for water conservation and innovation.In this episode, we sit down with Pat Mulroy, who was the top water manager in Southern Nevada for 25 years and led conservation efforts in the desert city. We talk with her about the existential crisis that Las Vegas and other desert cities face, how Southern Nevada has been able to cut its Colorado River water use by 31% in the past two decades, and what that means for the trade-offs that we all may have to consider to keep living where we want to live.

Nov 15, 2023 • 34min
The Price of Paradise
When Leigh Harris and her husband, Franck Avril, moved into their dream home, Leigh said she felt like the luckiest person in the world. The home is in Rio Verde Foothills, Arizona, outside Scottsdale, in unincorporated Maricopa County. It’s a large stucco house, with high ceilings, a fireplace and 35 windows to take in the mountain views.There was just one downside. Their home was built on a dry lot, which meant water was hauled in by trucks from Scottsdale. And amid a worsening drought, Scottsdale had to cut them off. This episode, we follow Leigh and Franck as they scramble to find an affordable water supply and make the most of every last drop.

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Nov 8, 2023 • 34min
Groundwater Wars
Kingman, Arizona faces a brewing water crisis as corporate farms flourish in a desert oasis. The struggle to balance agricultural growth with sustainable practices reveals a community at odds. Local leaders are stepping in, but regulations spark conflict among farmers, ranchers, and neighbors. Legal battles unfold as investment entities navigate new restrictions, adding to the tension. The fate of the region’s precious groundwater hangs in the balance, reflecting broader concerns about resource management in the face of climate change.

Nov 1, 2023 • 35min
Rewriting the Rules
The city of Albuquerque exists in part because of the Azotea Tunnel, a massive infrastructure project that effectively rerouted part of the Colorado River into the Rio Grande. The project helped sustain Albuquerque’s rapid population growth. Meanwhile, some communities lost out. Water that would have flowed through the Jicarilla Apache Nation was instead diverted via the tunnel.In this episode, we travel 180 miles north of Albuquerque to the town of Dulce to talk to Daryl Vigil, retired longtime water administrator, about how the tribe is fighting for a seat at the table in ongoing Colorado River management. And we visit To’Hajiilee, a community dealing with water insecurity that stands to benefit from leasing Jicarilla settlement water.

Oct 25, 2023 • 32min
Stolen River
The Gila River Indian Community is reclaiming its ancestral water rights after a century of colonization. They are revitalizing their farming economy and restoring dried wetlands to support local ecosystems. The podcast highlights innovative irrigation strategies and ongoing projects aimed at sustainable water management. It showcases the community's resilience in the face of water scarcity, emphasizing the importance of conservation and equitable access to resources. Personal ties to their heritage intertwine with the community's legal victories and renewed agricultural practices.

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Oct 18, 2023 • 33min
The $80 Million Acre
Explore Buckeye, Arizona, as it transforms from a small town to a potential urban hub. Discover the challenges of water scarcity that threaten this ambitious growth. Hear gripping personal stories, including a farmer's struggle with selling land amid rising financial pressures. Learn about innovative solutions like treated wastewater and the implications of private water rights. Delve into the ethical dilemmas of resource management in the American Southwest as the community grapples with climate change and sustainability.

Oct 11, 2023 • 3min
Introducing “How We Survive: The Worth of Water”
The Colorado River is the lifeblood of the American West. Millions of people rely on it to live. But we’re using more water than the river has to give, and it’s already lost trillions of gallons to rising temperatures since 2000. Meanwhile, rampant growth and water-intensive farming have depleted groundwater supplies. This means Western states must fundamentally rethink how water is divided up and used. In this season of “How We Survive,” we find an oasis in the desert, float down Las Vegas’ finest canal and give wastewater a taste as we continue our hunt for solutions to the climate crisis.

Sep 27, 2023 • 21min
Burning Questions: Can AI save the planet?
When it comes to solving the climate crisis, artificial intelligence can be a powerful tool, but it comes with some significant risks. Marketplace’s AI reporter Matt Levin talks with Priya Donti, Assistant Professor at MIT and co-founder Climate Change AI about the promises and perils of AI.WATCH: Can AI Help Solve the Climate Crisis? – TED READ: How Big Tech AI models nailed forecast for Hurricane Lee a week in advance – The Washington Post CHECK OUT: Climate Change AI

Sep 20, 2023 • 20min
Burning Questions: Can we eat our way out of the climate crisis?
Do my food choices really matter? What about solutions like composting? In this installment of Burning Questions, NYT’s food journalist and best-selling cookbook author Priya Krishna is in conversation with restaurateur and founder of Zero Foodprint, Anthony Myint, to chat through the personal and structural changes we can make to our food choices to better the climate.CHECK OUT: The impact of specific foods on the environment COMPOST: Even if your city doesn’t offer municipal pick-up DIG DEEPER: The science of regenerative agriculture with Anthony Myint