
Let’s Find Common Ground
The Bully Pulpit has merged with the Let’s Find Common Ground podcast. As the tone of public discourse becomes increasingly angry and divisive, Let’s Find Common Ground offers a healing path to reaching agreement and moving forward. At the USC Dornsife Center for the Political Future, we bring together top Republicans and Democrats to transcend partisan divisions and explore solutions to our most pressing national and global challenges. Join veteran strategists Bob Shrum and Mike Murphy along with other Center staff and major voices for fun conversations that advance civil dialogue and practical politics. The conversations go behind the curtain with elected officials, campaign staff, journalists, academics, pundits, and political operatives. Every exchange is guided by standards central to the Center’s mission: Respect each other and respect the truth. Opponents are adversaries, not enemies. And if you lose, don’t burn down the stadium.
Latest episodes

Nov 24, 2021 • 24min
Coming Together Across Divides: Holiday Season Special Episode
What happens when people of opposing viewpoints and diverse backgrounds work in teams, have conversations, or even sit across the table from each other at family gatherings? How do they come together and listen to others who see the world very differently? In this special episode, we compile a series of inspiring stories from past shows. Mother and daughter Robbie Lawler and Becca Kearl share deep love and respect but vote for different parties. Psychologist Tania Israel explains practical, proven ways to go beyond your bubble and get out of opinion silos and comfort zones. Race reconciliator Daryl Davis and former white supremacist Ryan Lo'Ree discuss their remarkable work together to deradicalize members of hate groups. Co-authors, Republican Jordan Blashek and Democrat Chris Haugh, recount their unlikely friendship that blossomed not despite, but because of their political differences. Radio and podcast journalist Ashley Ahearn talks about what she learned from her new friends and neighbors after moving from progressive Seattle to a conservative ranching country in rural Washington State. All on “Let’s Find Common Ground.” After deep skepticism, Dr. Gisèle Huff, a longtime proponent of school choice, and Becky Pringle, President of the National Education Association, came together to work on a new vision for the future of education.

Nov 22, 2021 • 1h 2min
2021: The Year of Politicking Dangerously - Insurrection, Pandemic, and Biden's Big Agenda
Christina Bellantoni, is joined by USC Professor Ange-Marie Hancock Alfaro, strategists Ben Tulchin and Juan Rodriguez, and commentator Charlie Sykes to weigh the Biden Administration's achievements and fumbles, the fallout from November elections, and the need for bipartisan action for real change. Featuring: Christina Bellantoni - Director of USC Annenberg's Media Center; Professor of Professional Practice, USC Annenberg Ange-Marie Hancock Alfaro - Dean's Professor and Chair of the Department of Political Science and International Relations; Director, Center for Leadership by Women of Color Juan Rodriguez - Campaign Manager for Gov. Gavin Newsom; Partner, Bearstar Strategies Charles Sykes - Founder and Editor-at-Large, The Bulwark; Host, The Bulwark Podcast Ben Tulchin - President and Founder of Tulchin Research; Pollster, Strategist for Bernie Sanders' 2020 campaign and Eric Adams' 2021 Mayoral Campaign

Nov 19, 2021 • 30min
2021: The Year of Politicking Dangerously - Lawrence H. Summers One-On-One with Bob Shrum
CPF Director Bob Shrum is joined by Lawrence H. Summers, President Obama's National Economic Council Director, to reflect on the parallels between the current COVID-19 economic fallout and the 2009 recession, and explore solutions for rising inflation. Featuring: Bob Shrum - Director, Center for the Political Future; Warschaw Chair in Practical Politics, USC Dornsife Lawrence H. Summers - Director of the National Economic Council for President Obama; 71st Secretary of the Treasury for President Clinton; Charles W. Eliot University Professor and President Emeritus, Harvard University

Nov 11, 2021 • 21min
Hidden Progress: A More Hopeful Future
Sometimes the future can seem dark. The pandemic drags on. Climate change is upon us. Political polarization remains toxic. When stories of division fill the headlines it’s easy to feel like the only way is down. But what if that’s not true? What if we gave less airtime to voices of doom and more to voices of hope? Our guests on this episode are Zachary Karabell and Emma Varvaloucas. Zachary is the founder of The Progress Network, Emma is its executive director. The Progress Network focuses on what’s going right with the world and amplifies voices of optimism. Zachary joins us from New York and Emma from her adopted home in Greece, where she’s gained an outsider’s perspective on the US. Emma and Zachary are also the hosts of the podcast ‘What Could Go Right?’

Nov 5, 2021 • 58min
5 Years After Paris: What Is Happening at the COP26 United Nations Climate Change Conference?
Center Co-Directors Bob Shrum and Mike Murphy are joined by USC Professors Monalisa Chatterjee, Shannon Gibson, and Robert O' Brien to discuss the COP26 climate summit in Glasgow, Scotland and the proposed solutions for a path forward. Bob Shrum - Director, Center for the Political Future; Warschaw Chair in Practical Politics, USC Dornsife Mike Murphy - Co-Director, Center for the Political Future; NBC Political Analyst Monalisa Chatterjee - Assistant Professor of Environmental Studies, USC Dornsife Shannon Gibson - Associate Professor of International Relations and Environmental Studies, USC Dornsife Robert O’ Brien - (Incoming) Fulbright Research Chair of Public Diplomacy, USC Center on Public Diplomacy

Oct 29, 2021 • 55min
Technology in Politics: What We Don't Know and Should
Center Co-Directors Bob Shrum and Mike Murphy are joined by USC Professor Morteza Dehghani, former Facebook executive Katie Harbath, strategist Cheryl Hori, and attorney John Patzakis to discuss the rapid changes in technology and their effects on politics including fundraising, campaigning, voting, free speech, and polarization. Featuring: Robert Shrum - Director, Center for the Political Future; Warschaw Chair in Practical Politics, USC Dornsife Mike Murphy - Co-Director, Center for the Political Future; NBC Political Analyst Morteza Dehghani - Associate Professor of Psychology, USC Dornsife Katie Harbath - Founder and CEO of Anchor Change; Former Public Policy Director for Global Elections at Facebook Cheryl Hori - Founder and Chief Strategist, Pacific Campaign House John Patzakis - Executive Chair and Chief Legal Officer, X1

Oct 28, 2021 • 23min
A Climate Scientist Makes the Case for Hope with Katharine Hayhoe
Climate change is one of the most divisive issues in our country today. But this wasn’t the case 20 years ago. How did we get here? Katharine Hayhoe is a climate scientist and chief scientist for The Nature Conservancy as well as a professor at Texas Tech University. And she’s the author of a new book called Saving Us - a Climate Scientist’s Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World. In this episode, Katharine explains how climate change became so polarizing, and how each of us can play a part in bridging the divide by starting conversations (even if we never use the words ‘climate’ and ‘change’ together.) She gives examples of how she, an evangelical Christian, talks to other Christians who may dispute the reality of climate change. Katherine says altering the status quo is easier than we think: the most important thing we can do to curb climate change is talk about it.

Oct 15, 2021 • 58min
Voting Rights and Voting Wrongs
Center Co-Directors Bob Shrum and Mike Murphy are joined by Linda Chavez, Pete Peterson, Theodore Johnson, and Ralph Neas to dive into the pros and cons of voting processes nationwide and explore common sense solutions. Featuring: Robert Shrum - Director, Center for the Political Future; Warschaw Chair in Practical Politics, USC Dornsife Mike Murphy - Co-Director, Center for the Political Future; NBC Political Analyst Linda Chavez - Conservative commentator; Chair, Center for Equal Opportunity Theodore Johnson - Fellows Program Director at Brennan Center for Justice, New York University Ralph Neas - Senior Counsel on Voting Rights, Century Foundation Pete Peterson - Braun Family Dean's Chair, Pepperdine University School of Public Policy; Senior Fellow, Davenport Institute

Oct 14, 2021 • 27min
How Should We Respond to the Vaccine Hesitant? With Dr. Jay Baruch
As an ER doctor, Jay Baruch has been treating Covid patients since the start of the pandemic. He still sees many patients sick with Covid in his ER - the vast majority unvaccinated. It might seem reasonable for him to share the anger and frustration that many vaccinated Americans feel about the unvaxxed. While Jay wants everyone who is eligible to get the shot, he says judgment does nothing to persuade the hesitant to get the vaccine, and that there is a better way to respond. Jay is a Professor of Emergency Medicine at Brown University’s Alpert Medical School. He is also a writer. In this episode he discusses his desire for a more open dialogue about vaccination, one that involves listening to people’s stories, empathizing with their concerns, and recognizing that all human beings are complicated.

Oct 8, 2021 • 59min
The Rising Impact of the Hispanic Electorate
Center Fellow Gloria Molina is joined by Antonio Villaraigosa, 41st Mayor of Los Angeles, strategist Cesar Martinez, and USC Professor Mindy Romero to discuss the growing impact of Latino voters and assess how political parties are reaching them, in celebration of Hispanic Heritage Month. Featuring: Gloria Molina - Fall 2021 Fellow, Center for the Political Future; Former LA County Supervisor and CA Assemblymember Cesar Martinez - Media strategist for Jeb Bush, George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney's presidential campaigns Mindy Romero - Founder and Director of the Center for Inclusive Democracy; Research Assistant Professor at USC Price School of Public Policy Antonio Villaraigosa - 41st Mayor of Los Angeles; Partner and Co-Chair, Mercury Public Affairs